DeSantis did what???

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There is photographic evidence of Ron DeSantis attending parties while 23 with high schoolers that he taught. It’s possible he had sex with these highschoolers. If this is the case, he is a rapist and should have his head cut off for rape. If Donald Trump is a rapist (there is photo evidence of him being friends with Epstein), he also needs his head cut off. Rapists, murderers, and kidnappers all deserve a public beheading so taxpayers aren’t feeding them with a prison sentence. This is no matter what political beliefs they have.

And there is something that I noticed. The left thinks Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are rapists and they hate them. You know who the left also hates? Mike Pence. But nobody has made any rape accusations against Mike Pence. So this leads me to believe that if your facing a rape accusation as a politician, it’s probably accurate.

This doesn’t mean we should assume you’re guilty, innocent until proven guilty. But there are 3 options, and I will rank my ideal options:

1) Believe evidence. There has to be evidence beyond a reasonable doubt because of the fifth amendment. This requires a trial. But since Trump has had these rape accusations for years and said, “Grab them by the pussy. They let you do it. I don’t even wait.”, the media focused on the wrong pet of that quote. They focused on, “Grab them by the pussy” when they should have focused on, “I don’t even wait”, implying he doesn’t wait for consent. If he is freely and cheerfully admiring to not wait for consent, he is a rapist and should be put to death. Unfortunately, Trump won’t get a trial because if he hasn’t gotten a trial by now, he’s not going to get one it seems and I think this will also be true of DeSantis. So as much as I would like to believe evidence, it’s not pragmatic to because NOBODY IS GETTING A TRIAL.

2) Believe survivors. They don’t have to be women, they can be men. Whenever a man is a sexual assault victim (like with Matt Schlapp), NOBODY was saying we need evidence to believe he sexually assaulted. If Matt Schlapp had sexually assaulted a woman, people would be demanding that she prove it. The right believes survivors when the accused rapist is Bill Clinton (it’s why they say that Clinton is a rapist). But when the accused rapist is Trump, they claim he’s innocent.

3) Believe accused perpetrators. This is my least favorite option.

So I would LIKE to believe evidence and trials consistently, it since they almost never show up for rape cases, I have to believe survivors since I think that’s more pragmatic to do than to believe the accused perpetrators.

But let me know what you guys think. Whether you believe, “Underdog, you’re wrong on this.” or, “Underdog , you bring a good point.”. I don’t block.

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@TheUnderdog

You forgot Matt Gaetz, and if farm animals count, Wylted.

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@TheUnderdog

(there is photo evidence of him being friends with Epstein

No there isn't it was a photo at a party with about 1,000 guests and Everyone was taking photos with various celebrities just like you would do if you met them at a comicon.

You can look at flight logs to the island to see who his actual friends were.

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Underdog , you bring a good point.

Sidewalker, you bring a good point.

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I don't know if a 23 year old attending parties of highschool students many of which are 18 or 19 is proof of much

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I believe in the option of evidence. I dont think anyone should be punished if there is no evidence of a crime.

The evidence being:

1) That crime happened

2) That the person did the crime they accuse him of.

If any of these two are lacking, there is no point to punish anyone.

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I go for something between 1 and 2.

For example when a medium-known streamer called Hashinshin got accused of grooming underage fans, I held neutral and listened fully to both sides and believed the accused guy who says the FBI scanned his devices, accounts and all.

He was ironically gaslit while high on a carbon monoxide leak in his home and that has also been proven to be real, he said 'sorry' for it under the heat of things which sounded like an admission but it seems he was highly stressed and under the influence of some leak or drug. I don't know the details, I followed the gist of both sides and heard out Hashinshin fully and I believe there are two male scumbag streamers involved and his own ex gf involved in an unbelievably sickening frame job that went wrong as he took them head on and let the FBI investigate him.

When it comes to Harvey Weinstein or such, I believe fully the victims as it all adds up. I am unsure what you want me to say.

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There is photographic evidence of Ron DeSantis attending parties while 23 with high schoolers that he taught.

This does not mean he did something wrong. If someone happens to come to a party, he could be there because he was invited and bothered to come.

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DeSantis 2024! Make America #2 Again!

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The real question is if he sniffs hair. We need a new hair sniffer in chief for sure.

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You forgot Matt Gaetz

I should have included him. But he’s not running for president.

and if farm animals count, Wylted.

Wylted is not a farm animal and he’s not a rapist.

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This does not mean he did something wrong. If someone happens to come to a party, he could be there because he was invited and bothered to come.

If this was true, DeSantis would claim this is what happened. But DeSantis didn’t claim this, so it’s probably didn’t happen like this.

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I don't know if a 23 year old attending parties of highschool students many of which are 18 or 19 is proof of much

You don’t just do this if you’re a teacher. You do it ONLY if you are trying to drug a student to have sex with them.

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No there isn't it was a photo at a party with about 1,000 guests and Everyone was taking photos with various celebrities just like you would do if you met them at a comicon.

If this is what happens and you’re Trump and you’re innocent, you claim you were friends with Epstein until he was found guilty of sex trafficking. You don’t claim you never knew the guy. Trump lied because he is guilty.

You can look at flight logs to the island to see who his actual friends were.

Where can I find these logs to the island?

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Wylted is not a farm animal and he’s not a rapist.

No but he dates underage farm animals.

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I believe in the option of evidence. I dont think anyone should be punished if there is no evidence of a crime.

Evidence is the ideal, but what if the evidence has been out for years and nobody is even getting a trial. When Derek Chavin killed someone, they gave him a trial (and it was quick). Trump also needs a trial. But they aren’t giving him a trial because if he is found guilty, it won’t matter how much he deserves it, enough in his base will start a revolution because they can’t accept defeat.

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I don’t think Wylted does beastiality.

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If this was true, DeSantis would claim this is what happened. But DeSantis didn’t claim this, so it’s probably didn’t happen like this.

"He would claim that it is what happened" is likely, but not needed. If there is no evidence against him, there is nothing he needs to say or explain.

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I don’t think Wylted does beastiality.

Google "Wylted cow sex tape", you'll see.

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you are encouraging someone to search for bestiality porn online. I have been banned to report privately so fuck the mods ill make every report public except my compiled one on Lancelot that I can't be bothered to do yet.

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1. We'll need to bleach our eyes... Not after doing that search, since no one would, but after just seeing those words on the screen.

2. RM has a point, please tone down any future references to bestiality to not encourage websearches (or other websearches which would yield results unsuitable for human eyes... especially since some of those human eyes are under 18).

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"He would claim that it is what happened" is likely, but not needed. If there is no evidence against him, there is nothing he needs to say or explain.

If you’re being accused of statutory rape, you have to defend yourself.

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It’s blocked on my phone and I don’t know ho to unblock it.

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You (Wylted) are accused of beastiality. Is this accurate?

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you are encouraging someone to search for bestiality porn online. I have been banned to report privately so fuck the mods ill make every report public except my compiled one on Lancelot that I can't be bothered to do yet.

Nice job Ratman.

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This doesn’t mean we should assume you’re guilty, innocent until proven guilty. But there are 3 options, and I will rank my ideal options:

Innocent until proven guilty is a requirement for a jury. If the conversation is about whether the individual in question should go to jail, this is appropriate because we value freedom over punishment. But if the topic is simply who we believe, all we should be going by at that point is Occam’s razor.

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If you’re being accused of statutory rape, you have to defend yourself.

Is likely not the case in this case. If there is evidence, you refute it. If there is no evidence, there is nothing to defend against. Anyone can make claims. Person has no obligation to refute every unsupported claim someone throws at him. In case of DeSantis, there is no evidence that crime even happened, let alone that DeSantis committed it.

I am not a fan of DeSantis. But the claims made against him are obviously done to defame him and make him lose support.

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1. We'll need to bleach our eyes... Not after doing that search, since no one would, but after just seeing those words on the screen.
2. RM has a point, please tone down any future references to bestiality to not encourage websearches (or other websearches which would yield results unsuitable for human eyes... especially since some of those human eyes are under 18).

That's quite a stretch, but hey, in the future I will try to remember Ratman's delicate sensibilities and his constant state of righteous indignation with any attempt at humor.

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I am not a fan of DeSantis. But the claims made against him are obviously done to defame him and make him lose support.

I agree, Occam's Razor applies here.

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I am not a fan of DeSantis. But the claims made against him are obviously done to defame him and make him lose support.

I agree, Occam's Razor applies here.

He's going after Trump's base, it will probably make him gain support.