U.S. Governors Mafia DP1

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Pressure and inactive so we can get some early claims at the very least
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Sorry but it is smart for town players to try to read roles. 
Yes, it can be smart to try to read them, but not so smart to openly discuss them. RM having some kind of confirmable role doesn't really help mafia. RM having a role related to voting lets mafia know not to target them because his role isn't that threatening to them.
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Wait did you say you were scumreading wylted before?

Are you voting him because he wiuld vote you? That is scummy.

Vote whiteflame or I vote you. Take that as a direct threat, I am starting to see teams I will keep the two teams to myself it all depends on whyeflame's flip. I am sure I will survive the night as I am not investigative or protective, so tomorrow I will tell the teams.

You are potentially on WF's team. Wont say the third. WF can be in both teams but if Town, I am extremely sure the three has That2User in it.
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I'm already incredibly bored. 
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I don't know if we need claims, but we certainly need activity.

Supa, who would you be willing to lynch, and why?
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BK's logic has been weird this whole game. I don't know what to make of it.
Weird logic often happens with scum because of the fact they have to manufacture their logic while we can just pour things out in a stream of consciousness. I forgave him for the weird statistics because I have seen it before with noobs, but he appears to be buddying up with RM, which is a scum tactic and making me reconsider my read on RM since scum would not buddy up to scum. 
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Wait did you say you were scumreading wylted before?
Yes, several times. I'll go find them in a minute.
Are you voting him because he wiuld vote you? That is scummy.
No.
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I am willing to vote siranon if RM is

unvote VTL SirAnon.
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I first scumread him back on page 11.
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Weird logic often happens with scum because of the fact they have to manufacture their logic while we can just pour things out in a stream of consciousness.
Yes, you're right. It's also common with new players who aren't used to the game's logic is. BK is a new player, so I've been putting it down as that so far. It certainly could be more than that, though.
 I forgave him for the weird statistics because I have seen it before with noobs, but he appears to be buddying up with RM, which is a scum tactic and making me reconsider my read on RM since scum would not buddy up to scum. 
The buddying thing is weird. What's weirder is that RM seems to be going along with it.

I've been nullreading BK so far, but of all my nullreads, he is the one that I would be most okay with lynching.
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VTL Wylted
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I'm already incredibly bored. 

Jesus wept.
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Why do you town read RM if you do
I said he is likely town due to confirming his role. The decision to out his role does not help scum in any way. This was already explained.


If you do town read him, why would him being wrong about a read make you all of a sudden scum read him
Was not said anywhere. I said he would lose trust. Which he would. No one would follow him on another lynch if he fails after focusing so much on Whiteflame.


Scum will often lynch town but give themselves some sort of out implying they know the flip.
Is a misleading statement. I already stated that I too suspect Whiteflame. I didnt give myself any out after my decision to follow that lynch immediatelly. In fact, if that decision turns out to be wrong, I am quite aware that I too will lose trust.


Something like "I am going to help you lynch him, but he could be town"
Is a false statement. I never said that Whiteflame is likely town, anywhere in this entire thread from its start till now.


Or they try to pin it as scummy to lead a mislynch. While antitown it isn't scummy to have a read wrong, even if you feel strongly you are correct
Was not said. What was said is he will lose trust if he fails.
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I've been nullreading BK so far, but of all my nullreads, he is the one that I would be most okay with lynching.
Help me lynch him if we must but I would like to get some claims from inactives before we do that. Vote supa
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I said he is likely town due to confirming his role. The decision to out his role does not help scum in any way. This was already explained.
I literally forced the decision. 

Was not said anywhere. I said he would lose trust. Which he would. No one would follow him on another lynch if he fails after focusing so much on Whiteflame.
I would follow him on another lynch. Just because his logic about whiteflame is shitty doesn't mean he will use shitty logic for someone else. 
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What Dart mafia needs is more high pressure situations, like open setup, confirmed clears, we all self vote for the clear to hammer D1. There's no momentum to Dart mafia at all. You want to craft setups that revolve around clears and CCs. 50/50 lynches all game long kinda thing. Better teaches you how to read too. You focus up on a pair of people and get instant feedback on your efforts. All this reading in the town and random lynches teaches you less for sure. You need to be allowed to focus on individuals. 
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All the nerdiness of theme and setup creation detracts from the actual mafia game. 
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Note, there is a difference between shitty logic and manufactured logic. 
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I am at 4 votes okay so I will claim let's just refocus and get some attention on the inactives to claim
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My character is Jay Inslee. Let's fucking get some claims now dicks
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Why do you want the inactives to claim? They certainly need to be more active, but how does claiming on DP1 help? It's not like they're going to disappear on DP2.
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It locks them in DP1 so they can't manufacture something in the heat of the moment later and increases the chance for a CC early
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Yes, but at the same time, it gives the mafia a better idea of who to target.
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I will happily take a Wylted roleclaim also. 
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Who cares?

So mafia targets some barely actives making it easier for us to narrow down scum. The alternative is that we go to LYLO and the game is a coin toss
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If siranon asks I will provide it but he has like 7 minutes to do so, just so we can move on with our lives
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I literally forced the decision.
He made a claim about his role being confirmable far before that, and said was okay with confirming it at the start.


I would follow him on another lynch. Just because his logic about whiteflame is shitty doesn't mean he will use shitty logic for someone else.
I wouldnt. If he focused too much on someone and turned out to be wrong, there would need to be a strong reason for me to follow him again.

RM is most likely town, so I will follow his logic this time, as opposed to following yours.
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Actually I will claim now. 


My role is Hitler because the governor made some headlines for supporting free speech restrictions on political speech after Jan 6, was anti gun etc.

Apparently the Hitler role allows me to protect any Democrats who visit me
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So mafia targets some barely actives making it easier for us to narrow down scum. The alternative is that we go to LYLO and the game is a coin toss
Seems like a false choice.
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That's the most bizarre role I've ever seen.