U.S. Governors Mafia DP1

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To be clear, voting me is jot activity, it is filler activity in my eyes. Testing me should be a side thing.

Keep grilling each other.
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@RationalMadman
Wait. At the start of the DP, you said this:

I am a role that can confirm itself if/when needed. I could be scumsided in the eyes of others. I am outing this because there is no reason not to as far as I see.

I would prefer you forcing me to confirm myself by dp3. I will clarify nothing further.
So, please explain this to me: why didn't you want to out yourself from the start so that you could immediately confirm your role, and why would you specify that you'd confirm yourself by DP3, specifically, when your role is confirmable now?
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@whiteflame
I have explained 2 or 3 times.

  • I wanted to hold my role, making mafia worry what I am.
  • I wanted to eventually aggressively lead on someone, if I got false hammered and it fails, I will have gained plenty of organic reads.
  • I actually had no reason to out even what I outed early on. I chose to do it as I wanted attention on me, from scum. This lets me easier test people and get reactions as they figure I am not worth picking on as they worry what I am that can be confirmed.
  • I do not believe roles matter that much. The foremost purpose of roles is to cancel out advantages within the scum and to be the PR itself in setups with vanillas creating 50/50 hammer scenarios that make the game a bit fairer in a sense.

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Official Vote Count:

RationalMadman (3/6) - SirAnon, That2, RM
Supa (1/6) - Austin
Best Korea (1/6) - Wylted


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@RationalMadman
Going through the list and explaining why each of them seems nonsensical would likely lead nowhere fast. The fact that you have these reasons gives me more basis for believing you're town (not the first time you've done this kind of misdirection), and frankly, I don't buy that this role (if we can confirm it) would be scummy in the first place - making it that difficult to lynch scum seems pretty unbalanced. So, might as well test it.

VTL RM
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Official Vote Count:

RationalMadman (4/6) - SirAnon, That2, RM, WF
Supa (1/6) - Austin
Best Korea (1/6) - Wylted

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VTL RM

Just finished catching up. Let's confirm RM's role, no harm in testing.

Right now my FOS is on Korea, he made some really weird posts, then became inactive. IDK about whiteflame, I'm not really experienced enough to accurately read.
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@AustinL0926
Korea is a big F0S, I'm with you in that
Let us know any thoughts you have beyond Korea/wf
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We need 2 votes on RM to role test him
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@That2User
really you only need 1, if i get lynched at 7 I blame you 100%
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Idk if mafia has a person who literally starts game with triple voting power, sounds insane but could be real
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one more at least confirms I don't go down at 6.
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nvm actually you're right, make it 7.
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EVERYBODY FOCUSING ON TESTING MY ROLE IS WASTING VALUABLE TIME AND ACTIVITY
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THE FOCUS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SCUMHUNTING, NOTHING IS PROGRESSING BY THIS, I WILL PASS THE TEST.
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Official Vote Count:

RationalMadman (5/6) - SirAnon, That2, RM, WF, Austin

Best Korea (1/6) - Wylted

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@RationalMadman
Idk if mafia has a person who literally starts game with triple voting power, sounds insane but could be real
Does this role even exist? 
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@That2User
yeah it exists in many variants.

Here is the classic one that I'm thinking of:

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THE FOCUS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SCUMHUNTING, NOTHING IS PROGRESSING BY THIS, I WILL PASS THE TEST.
You right, this vote doesn't say anything about affiliation, who is scum in your eyes? wf, wyIted, me?
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all Pie has to do is say it's scum instead of Town and that it also deactivates at Mylo.
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@That2User
Austin is very hard to read, he could have outed everything he outed and still be scum, yes. Nothing Austin has done has been towny at all but that was the same for him in the last (first) game he played here and he was Town.
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@RationalMadman
All you need to do is add one to make it a triple voter
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@That2User
You already know that I scumread WF and that you are on balance a scumread because you were weirdly clued into me being a voting role as if you and wylted either talked elsewhere or a strange coincidence happened.

Barney noticing that coincidence makes me townread Barney.
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@That2User
I know. Thanks for 'teaching' me? I just doubt Pie made a triple voter, he probably kept it double.
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@RationalMadman
You already know that I scumread WF and that you are on balance a scumread because you were weirdly clued into me being a voting role as if you and wylted either talked elsewhere or a strange coincidence happened.
WyIted explicitly said you have a voting role in this DP, Idk why it's weird that I pick up what's said 
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@RationalMadman
I was realizing the obvious with the info you gave, would Pie do something like this?
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@That2User
You didn't just pick up what was said, you and Wylted both even replied to someone justifying me asking for votes as an accurate read, within 1 minute of each other that Barney then called out.
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@RationalMadman
You already know that I scumread WF and that you are on balance a scumread because you were weirdly clued into me being a voting role as if you and wylted either talked elsewhere or a strange coincidence happened.
If you need the flip I'm willing to be the vote this DP
It's completely possible someone like badger is scum
Evading the DP hiding seems like a good way to live
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@That2User
maybe but Badger is also the type who just doesn't care about mafia ever. There are other players who are like that. This happened to be overall a cast that tries harder on balance, so I was willing to join in. Badger and greyparrot are exceptions.