Yes, but I don't support Trump,
He's rude, but there's some stiff competition for that title. Wilson was a rather vicious racist (Yes, worse than Trump. Way, way worse). Jackson killed people in duels, which certainly seems pretty rude.
Ya, we are finally seeing more and more of that now. I’m pretty sure you were once a Trumper, but now that he’s selling baseball cards and has transformed into a perennial defendant, people are saying they never supported or voted for him.
So you have to go back at least to the early 1900s. What do you think about the Republican Party’s embarrassing knee bend to Trump?
I don’t think they will live it down for some time. That’s why Nikki Haley and Pence and Pompeo are non-starters for President.
Well that’s the most important characteristic that Trumpers are looking for - bigotry
Ya, we are finally seeing more and more of that now. I’m pretty sure you were once a Trumper, but now that he’s selling baseball cards and has transformed into a perennial defendant, people are saying they never supported or voted for him.We have had this exact conversation before. I never supported Trump. I opposed him from the beginning. Go look through my entire post history if you don't believe me.
The point is that many people are sick and tired of self-righteous liberals who condemn everyone who disagrees as a bad person, rather than just a person with bad ideas. Pro-life people don't oppose women's bodily autonomy; they believe that the unborn is a different body entirely. Now, you can say, "That's nonsense! Fetuses are part of the woman's body!" or "It's in the woman's body, so it's her choice." Consequently, people who oppose abortion oppose bodily autonomy. However, that would only be true if they agreed with you on those things. Let me use an analogy to show what I mean.Suppose there was this guy who said the earth was flat, and someone accused him of lying. The flat-earther replied, "I'm not lying. I really believe the earth is flat." Even though he would be wrong, that would not make him a liar; he's just ignorant and misguided. If we pro-lifers are wrong, the same is true of us. We don't oppose bodily autonomy; we just mistakenly think that the unborn is a different body (assuming we're wrong for the sake of argument).Of course, you can refuse to accept this and desperately cling to your belief that those who disagree with you must somehow be sexist and hateful and oppose bodily autonomy. If so I have a simple question for you: according to gallup, 51% of women consider themselves to be pro-life.
Sir Anonymous was anti Trump then.
He is pro LGBT,
One of the more frustrating things about being vegan is how often other people use the most inane arguments to discredit you. From “look at my canines!” to “mmm, bacon” to “Hitler was a vegetarian”, I’ve heard them all.
But if Hitler was indeed a vegetarian, he wasn’t a very good one. In 1964, his former personal chef, Dione Lucas, published The Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook, in which she listed turtle soup, stuffed pigeon, and sausages as among his favourite foods. A few decades later, highly acclaimed biographer Robert Payne argued that Hitler’s vegetarianism was a myth created by his propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels.
But neither of these facts stopped this recent Vice piece from treating Hitler’s supposed vegetarianism as a done deal, using it as a springboard to launch into why white nationalists (aka present-day Nazis) are embracing veganism.
he is pro vaccine
Yes, but I don't support Trump, so I could be to the right of Genghis Khan and still be a liberal, you see.
Ok, first, a person with bad ideas is bad, especially when they act on those bad ideas or those bad ideas inform their decisions on who to support politically.
Second, I don’t know if it was an honest mistake or not, but Gallup in your link shows 61% of women as pro-choice and only 33% as pro-life. So you are way off on your facts. And considering Kansas recently voted to keep abortion legal in the state, you might say that pro-lifers are pretty far out of the mainstream public opinion.
Third, I’m glad you don’t support Trump. Now the question is what are you willing to do to stop him, save your party and defend the country from Trump and Trumpism.
Can you find any examples of him speaking out against Trump or Trumpism? Other than posting someone else’s article about rejecting Trump.
I have never seen you speak out against Trump. Why is that? You don’t support him but you are too timid to condemn him also. Kind of like Nikki Haley.
My numbers were exactly correct - for 2019 when I made the post.
Probably about half the time when I mention him.
I don't talk much about controversial topics like Trump anymore because I find it to be largely pointless. Everyone's opinions are pretty set in stone.
Trump encouraged people to get vaccinated (and his base booed him for it).
Bullshit. Your Gallup citation says 61% of women are pro-choice. You’re AFU
Show me. You lie
My guess is that the Republican nomination is a rerun of 2016. The main event will be Trump vs. DeSantis, but there will be a bunch of (delusional, egotistical, narcissistic, self-above-both-party-and-country) other candidates who will split the not-Trump vote, allowing Trump to be nominated with a plurality of the votes. The Democrats will likely re-nominate Biden (maybe Harris or Newsome). Instead of focusing on an actual message, Trump will spend his entire campaign relitigating 2020, failing to take advantage of Biden's weaknesses and amplifying his own. Despite being deeply unpopular, Biden will still be less hated than Trump and will bury him in a landslide. When the dust settles, we'll be pretty much right where we are now, except that we'll hate each other even more.Am I optimistic, or what?
Should? Absolutely. Will? I'll believe it when I see it.
The Democrats lived down the Civil War. So, 150 years from now, the Republicans might live down Trump.More likely 30 years, though, because that's about how long it actually took the Democrats to live down the Civil War. That makes sense, too, since that's about a generation of voters.
Trump has got to go. His loss to Biden permanently broke him. I couldn't vote for him again and if he has lost me of all people I don't see how he could win again. Ron DeSantis may not be perfect but right now I think he's the only person who can beat Trump 1 on 1--the field must be cleared for him immediately.You're quite correct, but clearing the field would require politicians to not have egos.
Your context is wrong. He is referring to laws and rules with regard to elections and voting in the constitution. Not the entire document.I will grant that there is a theoretical difference between terminating the entire Constitution and only terminating part of it. Practically, however, if the parts of the Constitution that govern elections are terminated, the rest will soon follow.He is saying the 2020 election violated the constitution with regard to laws and rules stated with in it. Namely certifying fraudulent elections.He is saying much more than that those parts of the Constitution were violated. He is saying that those parts of the Constitution can be terminated.
They set themselves firmly against conservative values when they nominated him to begin with.True, but had they rejected him at some point along the way, they might have regained the slightest shred of credibility. If they nominate him in 2024, it will be a clear statement that there is no line they are unwilling to cross, and that they will support him even in the face of certain defeat. Not that that isn't pretty clear already...But at least they did them democratically, unlike the DNC.That has the odd implication that the Republican Party is more democratic that the Democratic Party. Meaningless, but funny.tl;dr: both major parties suck.I doubt you could find a single person who would disagree.
If the Republican Party nominates him after this, not to mention all the things before it, then it is truly lost. There is no conservative party in America.
I don't think he thought that far ahead.
Full quote:So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great “Founders” did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!Trump is saying, clearly and unequivocally, that he thinks that the Constitution can be terminated due to election fraud. Straight from the horse's mouth.
It's not a question of watching the news 24/7. It's a question of 30 seconds on the internet for each of them. If Trump and his team can't be bothered to do that, then they are totally incompetent. And where is Trump's condemnation of Fuentes' views?
The defense that Trump and his team were too incompetent to do even a 30-second google search to learn who Fuentes was or pay attention to the news about Ye being an anti-Semite or do another 30-second google search to learn who Yiannopolous was does not seem like much of a defense. "He's not deliberately palling about with racists. He and everyone around him are just idiots!"Furthermore, if he disapproves of the things Fuentes says, why hasn't he said so? His silence is deafening.
Well, Trump is a genius at fooling people into thinking he's a genius.
No, he had 3. 3 out of 4 budgets. FY 2021, 2020, and 2019(rounding 985 billion)If you round 2019, sure. However, he was only half responsible for 2021's budget, so he was only fully responsible for one unrounded trillion dollar budget.
As an aside, if you expect me to defend how much money Trump and the Republicans spent before Covid, you're not going to succeed. The Republicans have become very fiscally irresponsible.
You mean Trump’s trillion dollar deficits?Trillion dollar deficit, singular. He only passed a trillion dollars in 2020. Three point one trillion, actually. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57170And yes, I do mean that one. I also mean Biden's $2.8 trillion deficit in 2021. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58268And also Biden's $1.4 trillion deficit this year. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58592Those are the three deficits I meant. The first two had around $2 trillion in excess spending each, and the last had about half a trillion in excess.* There's a good argument that the first couple stimulus packages were justified, but they contributed to inflation justified or not.*By excess, I mean more than usual. We've had $0.5 - $1 trillion deficits regularly for a decade and a half.
Oh, Trump had a trillion dollar deficit long before anyone ever heard the word Covid. So what caused his massive deficit?Actually he didn't. It didn't pass $1 trillion until 2020. But that's nitpicking. It was a trillion if we round up. So let's take a look at the federal budget in 2018.
If you have Democratic executives in places like WI and PA changing the law singlehandedly, without any consultation or law change of the state legislatures, how unfair and contradictory to the concept of separation of powers is that?To the separation of powers, quite unfair. To the election? Unfair, but not to a huge degree. Again, there would have to be evidence that it would be enough to change the results. However, regarding the national election, not unfair at all. Flipping PA and WI isn't enough to make Trump win.I never said Trump is the best speaker. He’s notorious for his hyperbolic speech."This was the most unfair election ever" is hyperbole. "Venezuela hacked voting machines" is an insane conspiracy theory.You can ask for evidence all day. You can ask for hard numbers all day,And I will. If Trump claims the election was rigged, then he better have evidence proving it. The bar for evidence does not get lower due to an inability to meet it.
See the problem here is that everyone argues that the election was perfect. It had numerous flaws.Well, I'm not part of everyone. Once you get past a certain size, no election is perfect. However, imperfect does not mean unfair or illegitimate or rigged.Hell State Supreme courts across the nation have found Democratic rule changes that benefited not them unconstitutional. The system was rigged against Trump. It’s like finding out the lottery is rigged to give one guy all the moneyThe claim in the first sentence does not support the claim in the following sentences. You can say, "There were bad laws." Probably. There probably have been bad laws in most or all elections. You can say, "The bad laws favored one side over another." Maybe so. Again, probably not uncommon. But unless you can say, "There were bad laws, and here is the evidence showing that they had enough impact to flip the election," you can't conclude that it was rigged. And that is a case that I haven't seen anyone even attempt to make.But more pertinently, claiming that there were bad laws does absolutely nothing to justify Trump's behavior. He hasn't been limiting himself to rational, defensible claims. He and his lawyers have been spouting off one insane conspiracy theory after another. He also didn't limit himself to legal means to challenge the results. He tried to pressure the vice president to illegally overturn the election. That behavior is indefensible and unacceptable. And if that continues and becomes more mainstream, it will eventually destroy our constitutional system.
Do you hate Mitch McConnell more or Donald Trump? I’m curiousAs a Christian, I believe it is my duty to love everyone, although I confess that politicians make that difficult. More to the point, I think Trump is worse than McConnell. I have a lot of disagreements with McConnell, but I agree with him more than I agree with Trump. I also have more respect for McConnell. Not because of his personality (I have no idea what his personality is like), or because of his integrity (I doubt he has any), but because of how good he is at his job. I've read a lot of history about the US government. I think McConnell will be remembered as one of the most effective Congressional leaders.
I think your argument revolves around an emotional argument and personality differences, which is fine.It doesn't revolve around emotions or personality, and it never did.But at the end of the day, does the media and Democrats’ opinion about you matter?It doesn't, and it never did.How will Trump ruin the country? Everyone said that in 2016. Nothing happened.Something did happen. A sitting president refused to accept the results of a legitimate election. Millions believed him. Some resorted to violence. Trump attempted to overturn an election. Yes, the Democrat's policies are bad for America. So are election denialism and attempted coups. A democracy relies on the willingness of both sides to acknowledge defeat. Without that, it will collapse.I do not, however, buy into the Democrat's hysterical claims that the Republicans winning even one more election would be the END OF DEMOCRACY. I think our constitutional system is stronger than that. However, if election denialism continues to grow, it will eventually fail. And before you can say, "But Stacey Abrams and Al Gore," I entirely agree. That's one (out of many) reasons that I won't vote for the Democrats either.
You are the kind of person who would have been silent during the rise of fascism in the 1920s and 30s
That happened after Covid was dying down.
