Gender Reassignment Surgery should be illegal.

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So, a living human that is morally wrong to kill, is a human that has been birthed. So, let's say the baby is halfway through the vagina. Is it ok for me to stab the half of the baby that is in the mother still? There has to be an absolute point. 
Wow, this thread started out incredibly stupid, and it just keeps getting more and more stupid.
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The problem is that people are pushing this too younger and younger kids, and making it seem like a good thing, when in reality, there is no evidence to back that up.
This is the problem you made up, "there is no evidence to back that up",
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I believe that there can be well intentioned supportive people that can still be a bad influence. It is why I encourage christians to be the supportive person in the life of a transgender individual they know and relate to. 
You're insinuating Christians can not be a bad influence. That assumption is absurd. Surely, even you as a Christian don't think all who claim to be Christians are on the right path.

If the person is seeking out that comfort with activists and some other members of the trans community, it is my opinion they are more likely to mutilate themselves than if they have the support of friends and family with good morals.
Another unspoken (and questionable) assumption: only those with bad morals would support a transition. We'll disagree on that. 

If a person struggling with gender identity issues doesn't get that love from the people close to them, they'll get it from people in other communities. 
Maybe, though I think there would be a strong correlation between suicide and the absence of support. Its not necessarily an either/or situation.
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Gender Reassignment Surgery does not exist in America today.

Prove me wrong.
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I don't know enough about it to make a distinction 
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Gender Reassignment Surgery does not exist in America today.
Prove me wrong.

Done ;)
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I don't know enough about it to make a distinction 
Fair enough. Are opposed to both (puberty blockers and hormone) for minors or are you abstaining from forming an opinion until you have a better understanding?
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I am opposed to both I don't think scientists know enough about the human body to know how much if any harm they are doing. 
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Get a dictionary and look up the terms expulsion and extraction and answer your own uninformed question. FFS!
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Get a dictionary and look up the terms expulsion and extraction and answer your own uninformed question. FFS!
Still doesn't answer my question. 
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Still doesn't answer my question. 
Sounds like a personal problem to me. 

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Ok then. 

I might just make an abortion forum page cause I'm not going to go deep into it on this topic. 
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So, a living human that is morally wrong to kill, is a human that has been birthed. So, let's say the baby is halfway through the vagina. Is it ok for me to stab the half of the baby that is in the mother still? There has to be an absolute point. 
Wouldn't this require stabbing the mother to get to the unborn half?
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Wouldn't this require stabbing the mother to get to the unborn half?
Yes, but I am talking about would stabbing the half of the baby that is inside the mother be morally wrong. Let's say it didn't affect the mother. 


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Yes, but I am talking about would stabbing the half of the baby that is inside the mother be morally wrong. Let's say it didn't affect the mother.
LOL, it's like watching a cat try to play chess.
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Yes, but I am talking about would stabbing the half of the baby that is inside the mother be morally wrong. Let's say it didn't affect the mother. 
I think it would be better to ask: Would it be murder or equal to murder?

I would like to say that forced abortions are much easier to justify when someone thinks that fetus isnt a person.
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Look up “what is a woman” by Matt Walsh. He gives plenty of examples. Same for his podcasts. A medical center that was focusing on transitioning kids shut that part of their business down due to his efforts and focused attention on their child abuse. 
I have other things to do than to sit through Matt Walsh’s documentary. I read a quick review on it, apparently a big part of the film is him talking to people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Not exactly worthy of serious discussion. We can all make “the other side” look terrible by cherry picking the incoherent examples.

But more to the point, I was asking for examples of the “woke left” trying to make the medical transition of kids a “normality”. I’ve never heard of any prominent left wing figure nor any significant group push for any such thing. What I’ve seen is plenty of people support the rights of kids and their parents to be able to make their own medical choices, something that for some reason “small government” conservatives really hate.
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Ok then. 

I might just make an abortion forum page cause I'm not going to go deep into it on this topic. 

You already have done that and failed miserably at it. Please, don’t waste all our time again.
If you want to try again, go back to the one you already started and failed at.
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I read a quick review on it, apparently a big part of the film is him talking to people who don’t know what they’re talking about.
That would be true. He talked to doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, so on and so forth. None of them knew what they were talking about. Especially the ones that were trans themselves. 

Refusing to educate yourself accurately is the hallmark of ignorance and denialism.  
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I am opposed to both I don't think scientists know enough about the human body to know how much if any harm they are doing. 
This opposition is built on your acknowledged ignorance on this subject. 
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I would like to say that forced abortions are much easier to justify when someone thinks that fetus isnt a person.
Yes, because planned parenthood usually uses this tactic to gain business. 

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You already have done that and failed miserably at it.
Well, I didn't fail miserably. You were the one who gave up on the argument, claiming to be the authority on abortion on this website. I even challenged you to a debate, which you denied several times. 
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You already have done that and failed miserably at it.
Well, I didn't fail miserably. You were the one who gave up on the argument, claiming to be the authority on abortion on this website. I even challenged you to a debate, which you denied several times. 

Yes, you did fail miserably. I did not give up on the argument, since I had already prevailed in said argument. And I am the authority on abortion on this site, since no one has been able to knock me off the top of the hill yet. 

You challenging me to a debate is a futile venture on my part, that’s why I refused. You lack the requisite knowledge to prevail let alone conduct a legit discussion on the subject matter. 
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This opposition is built on your acknowledged ignorance on this subject. 
It's true if every opinion that I have, that there is information I have not come across that could change my mind. If I do a deep dive on hormones and puberty blockers I may see them as less risky and change my opinion.

I am not a policy maker though and I am arguing this not to push my opinion but so somebody will tell me how I am wrong and I can have a more accurate opinion. 
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site, since no one has been able to knock me off the top of the hill yet. 
Already did. 
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Already did. 
BWAAAHAAHAAAHAAA! 

Delusions of grandeur are not factually accurate little one. 

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Delusions of grandeur are not factually accurate little one. 
Alright then buddy. 
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Alright then buddy. 
Truth hurts, doesn’t it. 😝 

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That would be true. He talked to doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, so on and so forth. None of them knew what they were talking about. Especially the ones that were trans themselves. 

Refusing to educate yourself accurately is the hallmark of ignorance and denialism.  
This isn’t how one goes about educating themselves, that’s the point genius. If I decide to educate myself on what the MAGA base stands for, I’m not going to turn to Jordan Kleper’s videos of him talking to Trump supporters.

The ask I started this conversation off with was for examples of the “woke left” trying to normalize medically transitioning kids. You have yet to explain how your documentary addresses this claim.

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What is a woman is a documentary. Documentaries are made to educate. Examples are given within the film. But you’re too lazy to watch it and be educated on the subject material.