Ultimate Reality

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@Mopac

“a statement of the meaning of a word or word group or a sign or symbol"

Yes, and I am saying that in this thread, in my posts: that the meaning of the word group “the road runner”, is “reality”.

So now that you have agreed that I can define “the road runner” to be reality, let’s move on.

Reality exists

I have defined “the road runner” to mean reality.

Therefore, by definition “the road runner” must exist. Right?

Stop dodging

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@Ramshutu

I accept that some road runner most probably exists.

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@secularmerlin

I’m not talking about some road runner, I’m talking about “the road runner”, which I have defined to mean reality.

as reality exists, “the road runner” also exists by definition.

therefore reality makes a meep meep noise.

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@Ramshutu

You're not wrong, heard it myself

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@Ramshutu

You had me right up until meep meep. That the ultimate reality is the road runner I can accept for the purposes of this conversation but any claim about said road runner must be demonstrated.

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@secularmerlin

did you not read?

I don’t need to validate claims about “The Road Runner”, The Road Runner is The Ultime Reality, It exists, so the road runner exists. We must protect reality from Wile-e-coyote.

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@Ramshutu

You can call reality anything you like but that does not grant you license to make unsubstantiated claims about it. In much the same way that Mopac can call reality anything he likes but I draw the line at making claims of nonphysicality transcendence and the unconfirmed eternal nature of reality.

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@secularmerlin

Bingo.

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@Ramshutu

This is not news to me.

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@Ramshutu

I don’t need to validate claims about “The Road Runner”, The Road Runner is The Ultime Reality, It exists, so the road runner exists. We must protect reality from Wile-e-coyote.

I'm pretty sure the Road Runner has got itself covered

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@Ramshutu

He'll just say that the road runner is not a valid definition of God, but that ultimate reality is a valid definition of God because it says so in a dictionary.

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@Castin

This is a new tact and a new tact can't hurt even if it doesn't help.

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@Castin

The road runner isn't a definition though.

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@Plisken

We're not arguing about God. We're arguing about Mo's definition of God, and he frequently alleges that a definition does exist.

And I was referring to Ram's argument, which said the road runner has a definition in the context of this thread.

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@Castin

You got a better way to address the leprechaun strawman? I'm sure he would be interested. People sometimes need to understand somehow who won't otherwise entertain the idea that God is different than, a god. You can't put God in a box. If anything, we are in the box.

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@Plisken

Which god?

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@Plisken

You got a better way to address the leprechaun strawman? I'm sure he would be interested. People sometimes need to understand somehow who won't otherwise entertain the idea that God is different than, a god. You can't put God in a box. If anything, we are in the box.

How does this relate to Mopac's definition of God?

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It's almost like you people want to be devoured by your children.

Lord have mercy on these hopelessly wicked and ignorant mockers.

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@Mopac

Ultimate reality has only been around what?

7000 years max.

What was reality 10,000 years ago.

How long has this ultimate reality been going on ?

Before this Christian God ultimate reality was it like.

Norse god ultimate reality.

Roman god ultimate reality.

Greek god ultimate reality.

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Are They old ultimate realities ?

If ultimate reality has anything to do with God, why would it start with christian God. Why not one of the thousands before it ?

Anddddddddddddd .

One more question Mo.

Is your orthodox Christian god. The Jewish god. ?

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@Deb-8-a-bull

The Ultimate Reality wasn't created.

Lets just keep pretending words are meaningless.

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@Mopac

It's almost like you people want to be devoured by your children.

Lord have mercy on these hopelessly wicked and ignorant mockers.

I'm not mocking you fwiw.

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@Mopac

we may as well keep pretending words are meaningless.

Let's pretend your Christian God was the first to be called God.

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@Deb-8-a-bull

The Christian God existed before people called themselves Christians.

The Ultimate Reality exists eternally.

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@Castin

You are right. When you make God into an idol, you are mocking a great deal more than I.

The Supreme and Ultimate Reality is God, and there is no other. Is it so hard to admit The Truth?

This is why there can be no world peace. This should be the easiest thing in the world everyone can agree on, and people can't even do that.

Meanwhile, over 20,000,000 of my brothers and sisters were killed in the last century by people who treated believing in God like a mental illness and scourge on society.

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@Mopac

Ok Ok.

When did ultimate reality start ?

Approximately?

( A ) 0 to 10,000

( B ) 10,000 to 50,000

( C ) 50,000 to 100,000

( E ) ages ago.

Don't worry mopac you don't have to answer it.

I'm thinking this Ultimate reality would have you picking ( A )

And you picking ( A ) aint very " ultimate " at all.

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@Deb-8-a-bull

No start

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@Mopac

But God created everything didn't he ?

So God himself wasn't living in this ultimate reality ?

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@Deb-8-a-bull

I wouldn't say that God was living in Ultimate Reality, because God is The Ultimate Reality. The Ultimate Reality is not created, it exists eternally.

At the same time, Jesus said

"Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

So maybe in a sense.

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@Mopac

Lets just keep pretending words are meaningless.

Deb isn't pretending. Words mean only what he/she thinks they mean.

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@Mopac

Parents or God Parents.