DeSantis’ troll attempt fails miserably

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You’re a liar. A MAGA liar. Just like Trump
Oh sure, over here in the real world it's a lie, but they have thier own seperate Trump reality, in thier conspiracy world psychodrama, it's not a lie, its an alternative fact.



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That was the intent, and you guys were screeching about Democrats having an emotional meltdown before anyone had even reacted, thats how conspiracy thinking works, independent of the real world. 

But hey, a lot of people are going to have a strong reaction to human trafficking as a political stunt, Desantis was counting on that, he was also counting on it giving you guys an erection, apparently it worked, now go take a cold shower, the real world isn't nearly as dramatic as your conspiracy world. .  
Yeah I can tell this event clearly had absolutely no emotional impact whatsoever on you lol. I’m definitely living in a fantasy land, calling a rich lib vacation spot having to spend a whopping 24 hours dealing with 0.001% of what border communities have had to deal with for a with for the last 18 months “human trafficking” isn’t at all indicative of an emotional response. The stunt definitely didn’t bring Biden’s disgraceful border crisis back to the forefront. Liberals don’t look like “migrants for thee but not for me” hypocrites at all. I’m so owned right now 
 
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That's the story, now stick to it. (at least until November)
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Yeah I can tell this event clearly had absolutely no emotional impact whatsoever on you lol. I’m definitely living in a fantasy land, calling a rich lib vacation spot having to spend a whopping 24 hours dealing with 0.001% of what border communities have had to deal with for a with for the last 18 months “human trafficking” isn’t at all indicative of an emotional response. The stunt definitely didn’t bring Biden’s disgraceful border crisis back to the forefront. Liberals don’t look like “migrants for thee but not for me” hypocrites at all. I’m so owned right now 
Man, that's some erection you have.

Come November this stunt will only ensure the Trumpers that were already voting his way will vote his way, it may help you with the next insurrection, but it isn't going to help you win the election.  Over here in the real world, abortion AND GOP racism will still be issues, you just don't have enough crazed fanatics to win an election. 

To win back the senate you need racist Trumpers to come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, and a Muslim in Pennsylvania, not happening.
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Honestly, i can't imagine anything more dramatic and hyperbolically emotional than describing the voluntary transportation to a sanctuary state as "human trafficking"

Pretty sure none of the illegal invaders paid one cent for the transportation. It's almost as if Democrats don't know the transactional logistics of human trafficking! 
A free ride taken voluntarily is NOT trafficking! No money was exchanged at all!

Typical.... identify with the emotions while discarding all rational meaning.

The Democrat's contradictory message of welcome, not really welcome, to a sanctuary state isn't helping. 
The chaos surrounding this event shows exactly why Democrats have no real immigration policy. Regardless of the incoherent chaotic messaging, the people flowing over the border are aware of one truth. As long as Democrats are "in charge," they can live as Americans without actually having to be American.
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come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, 

Just call him Obama. Problem fixed.

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The Democrat's contradictory message of welcome, not really welcome, to a sanctuary state isn't helping. 
The chaos surrounding this event shows exactly why Democrats have no real immigration policy. Regardless of the incoherent chaotic messaging, the people flowing over the border are aware of one truth. As long as Democrats are "in charge," they can live as Americans without actually having to be American.
When it comes down to it, the point of immigration is to turn Texas, Arizona, and Florida blue and to a lesser extent to provide cheap servants. The revealed preference is that nobody wants to live around dirt poor migrants, but only certain people have the power to do anything about it. And those same people are the ones who vote for the policies that cause the migrants to make the journey in the first place! Not a good look at all 
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To win back the senate you need racist Trumpers to come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, and a Muslim in Pennsylvania, not happening.
It’s probably happening
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If you think this failed, you missed the point. Politicians make rulings from DC. They don't often care about the issues voters deal with; they would rather use their partisan lines. The stunt asks the question "How can the American public be expected to care for illegal immigrants when the wealthiest politicians refuse to do so?"

So far, it's pretty clear that politicians are out of touch and outright hypocrites on this issue. While feel-good stories about community donations may seem to let them off the hook, they really don't. It only shows politicians are more than willing to let the citizens do the charity alone, without writing a check themselves. And this ignores even bigger questions. Where is this compassion when our own people can't afford food? And what about the legal immigrants? Will these donations last, and how many more migrants are coming now that we've accepted some? We can't care for all of them, no matter how generous we get. We should give prioirty to our own citizens, be it by birth or legal immigration.
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come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, 

Just call him Obama. Problem fixed.

Really old news, since then there's been two impeachemnts, an attempted insurrection,  the reversal of Roe vs Wade, and a plethora of criminal actions, none of those Trump Democrats are still there, and large number of the Trump Republicans are gone too. 

Face it, your white supremacist political movement is over, you guys are no longer relevent.
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I'm really curious to see what happens to California when legislation goes into effect 2024 that enrolls hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants onto Medi-Cal subsidized healthcare.
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I think your Black supremacist movement is more likely over.

Just ask Disney.
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To win back the senate you need racist Trumpers to come out and vote for a black man in Georgia, and a Muslim in Pennsylvania, not happening.
It’s probably happening
Maybe in your conspiracy psychodrama world it's probably happening, but over here in the real world you've already lost Georgia and Pennsylvania.

Fetterman had a stroke, dissapered and went up in the polls, he could probably die and quack doctor Oz will still lose.   Here in Georgia, there's going to be a debate, your candidate can't come up with a coherent sentence, he's a laughing stock, unless the debate rules say you have to tackle your opponent  to win, Walker is going to be humiliated, Warnock's lead will only widen, and Walker will be eating dust by November.  For Walker to win, the racist Trumpers will have to all come out and vote for a black man twice. 

This time around there just aren't enough of you white supremacists, not even in Georgia.  

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Those wacky white supremacists with their black and Muslim candidates! 
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You can't justify the BLM movement without creating a mythical enemy.
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I think your Black supremacist movement is more likely over.

Don't worry, I'm white, there's nothing to be afraid of.  
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Many Jews also sympathized with the Germans. Cuck strong friend.
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Many Jews also sympathized with the Germans. Cuck strong friend.
Well there you go, you can probably count on both those votes, and then there's everyone on Trump's Truth Social, that almost a hundred votes right there...sorry, but even with all those votes you just don't have enough white supremacists to win an election, 

I'm afraid you're gonna have to go with another insurrection. 

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I'm afraid you're gonna have to go with another insurrection. 
Really depends on how many people can feed themselves by November.
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I'm really curious to see what happens to California when legislation goes into effect 2024 that enrolls hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants onto Medi-Cal subsidized healthcare.
Don’t worry JoJo, California has lots of adults who earn a good income. We can afford to pay for things unlike the losers in the Red states who need the Federal Government to pay for everything.

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And what about the legal immigrants?
These people are here legally you dummy. They are refugees from Venezuela seeking asylum.

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Don’t worry JoJo, California has lots of adults who earn a good income. We can afford to pay for things unlike the losers in the Red states who need the Federal Government to pay for everything.


Massachusetts has the fourth-highest debt in the United States. Massachusetts's total liabilities are $104.53 billion, and its total assets are $34.214 billion, creating a debt of $68.43 billion. Long-term liabilities are at 305.5% of total assets. Massachusetts's largest sources of debt are infrastructure and pensions.


California has the fifth-highest debt of any state, with total liabilities coming out to $362.87 billion. Total assets come out to $301.1 billion, creating a $55.96 billion net debt and giving California a debt ratio of 120.5%. California's debt and liabilities can be broken down into three categories: retirement liabilities, budgetary borrowing, and bond debt. However, combining California's federal, state, and local debt brings California's debt total to over $1 trillion. According to this report, the debt would cost each resident of California $33,000 or each taxpayer $74,000.

States with the Least Debt

1. Texas
Texas has the lowest debt of any state in the U.S. Texas's total liabilities add up to $222.64 billion, and its total assets add up to $356.01 billion, giving Texas the highest net position in the country of $115.08 billion. Texas's debt ratio is 62.5%

2. Florida
Florida's debt is the second-lowest in the country. With total liabilities coming out to $66.78 billion and total assets coming out to $163.24 billion, Florida's net position is $97.6 billion. This means that Florida's debt ratio is 40.9%. While Floridas debt has decreased in recent years, it is expected to increase over the next two years.

Sick burn. I totally got owned there by the libs.


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They are refugees from Venezuela seeking asylum.
Seeking asylum from Democratic Socialism :D

Wait till they find out who runs the sanctuary states!
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Every illegal immigrant and their mom will claim asylum to try to get in. You think they're just going to leave if their appeal gets rejected? And how many of them have actually applied for asylum? Many of these people are here knowing they're going to get rejected or that they're not going to apply. At that point, it's premeditated crime, so we might as well call a spade a spade.

Meanwhile, we have many people applying for green cards outside of the US and their process is being slowed down because we're trying to process green card decisions for people who crossed the border before applying, many of whom will get rejected and will refuse to honor the ruling.
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JoJo, would you rather live in a modern million dollar house with a mortgage or a run down trailer home free and clear? I’m guessing you live in a trailer home, but that’s beside the point.


Being able to borrow and pay off loans is part of being able to afford things. And we do it while sending more to the US Treasury than we get back. 

Californians and New Yorkers have the highest median incomes. 80K vs 60K in Texas and Florida

As I said, we can afford to buy things without the help of the Federal government. You can’t say that about Red states. In Mississippi, they need the Federal government to pay for their water system, but they just drastically cut their state income tax.
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Nice word salad. You’re just rambling now. You sound like Sarah Palin. 

You should stick to just playing video games. Politics is for the adults.
Looks like we’re back to the good ol’ Democratic playbook. Can’t win an argument, call your opponent names
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Face it, your white supremacist political movement is over, you guys are no longer relevent.
Says the guy who…wait for it…supports segregationist sympathizer Joe Biden
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Trump Fumes: DeSantis Stole My Plan for Shipping Migrants
Conservative pundits are fawning over DeSantis’ cruel political stunt to fly immigrants to Massachusetts. Trump thinks the "credit" should be his
ASAWIN SUEBSAENG, ADAM RAWNSLEY
SEPTEMBER 18, 2022

IN RECENT DAYS, Donald Trump has privately voiced his anger over Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis sending planeloads of migrants to Martha’s Vineyard. Trump’s displeasure, however, has nothing to do with moral revulsions at the governor using human beings as unsuspecting pawns for a political attack. Instead, Trump is telling allies and confidants he’s outraged that DeSantis seems to think he’s allowed to steal the ex-president’s mantle as both media star, and as undocumented-immigrant-basher-in-chief.
Since the Florida Republican — possibly under false pretenses — flew migrants from the Texas-Mexico border to Massachusetts, Trump has pointedly complained to some of his closest associates that DeSantis is attempting to take the national news cycle away from him, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Rolling Stone.
Trump has fumed over all the praise DeSantis’ action has been receiving in influential conservative circles lately — such as on right-wing media like Fox News — and has privately accused DeSantis of doing this largely to generate a 2024 polling boost for himself among GOP voters. (Earlier this month, Trump and his political operation blasted out a brief statement claiming, “Mar-a-Lago raid gave Trump a 10-point boost over DeSantis with Republican primary voters, poll shows.”)

The twice-impeached former president, the sources say, has also vented that DeSantis’ latest stunt was yet another one of “my idea[s]” that the governor allegedly stole from Trump.
Neither Trump nor DeSantis have officially declared a 2024 presidential run, though both have laid the groundwork for a national campaign. Trump remains the leader of the Republican Party and its most popular national figure. But DeSantis has a similar MAGA brand and in recent months has made gains in the polls — and among the conservative elite. 
Conspicuously, in the days since the migrants arrived on Martha’s Vineyard, Trump has publicly commented on it only sparingly. He has also declined to profusely laud DeSantis in the ways that his fellow Republican icons have repeatedly done so. The former president is famous for quickly and verbosely responding to any number of headlines or controversies — political, legal, pop-cultural, and so on — thus making his general omissions regarding DeSantis and the stunt even more glaring.
And Trump’s apparent sense of right-flank vulnerability on immigration was evident on his social media platform, Truth Social. There, the former president spent his weekend intermittently teasing his alleged plans to run again in 2024 while hailing his own record of cruelty to asylum seekers. 
In a manic posting spree, Trump shared a series of articles in quick succession teasing his 2024 plans (“Why Trump Will Run Again” and “Trump is Running”) while sharing pieces that credit himself following the Martha’s Vineyard stunt (“Libs dumped with illegal immigrants discover the merits of Trump’s ‘safe third country’ deals”) and a warning to DeSantis to back off (“Running against Trump is more of a risk for DeSantis than peaking too soon’).
A Trump spokesperson did not provide a comment on this story. 
Unnamed officials went to a shelter in San Antonio and reportedly deceived roughly 50 Venezuelan and Colombian migrants into boarding a chartered flight to Martha’s Vineyard, possibly with misinformation about available jobs and housing. DeSantis directed the stunt, involving migrants who’d never set foot in Florida. Other Republican politicians have also been engaging in this tactic recently, including Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, who has been busing migrants to Democratic enclaves to the delight of the anti-immigration right.


Amid questions on the legality and morality of what DeSantis did, the fracas doubles as a proxy fight between the two most prominent figures in modern American conservatism. It’s a political conflict likely to produce more cruel, ostentatious, and draconian policy proposals and actions, as leaders such as DeSantis and Trump compete to out-MAGA one another.
“With about 10 million job openings, these Venezuelan asylum seekers will soon have jobs and [be] supporting their families. Too bad they had to be the pawns in an old fashioned game of ‘Own the Libs,’” says Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst working at the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, DC. “It’s important to note that this stunt is just an escalation of 2016. Trump changed the politics radically, DeSantis is just trying the same old Trunpian playbook. There doesn’t appear to be a real political entrepreneur this cycle like there was in 2016.”
Nowrasteh adds, “I’ve been observing the escalating chaos on the border for the last 2 years. The situation is only made more chaotic by governors stepping [in] to fly migrants to parts of the country where they don’t want to go. Venezuelan migrants are integrating well. Their largest community is in Florida and many of the migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard will eventually end up there.”

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Deplorable.
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Looks like we’re back to the good ol’ Democratic playbook. Can’t win an argument, call your opponent names
Hmm, does Trump call people names like Lyin Ted Cruz, CROOKED Hilary, Little Marco, Pochahotas, Look at that face, would anyone vote for that face,

You are such a dunce.