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this should be done with all royal assets
Most royal properties are open to the public, including Balmoral Castle where the Queen died. Although they are not totally open to the public if the Monarch is in residence, for privacy and security reasons.

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Not my Queen.  

I don't see a Stewart on the throne.  
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Data storage and transfer is what it is.

What would life be like if we got up every morning and had to rethink everything.
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What would life be like if we got up every morning and had to rethink everything.
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Data storage and transfer is what it is.

What would life be like if we got up every morning and had to rethink everything.
I wouldn’t want to be born into the British Monarchy. You are permanently under the scrutiny of the media, who will turn on you for what they believe to be the slightest indiscretion. You have little say in how you run your life as you are subject what is known as Royal Protocol. The real power in the palace is held by those Princes Diana called the “men in grey suits,” these are the royal advisers and private secretaries, they are the ones who make the decisions and decide how the Royals must conduct themselves. No thanks.
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You are permanently under the scrutiny of the media
that's what they want you to think
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that's what they want you to think
Can you elucidate on that?
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They were portrayed as serial killers.
You said it your self, “I said that the language used to attack them was of a kind normally reserved for serial killers.”
does anyone remember the massacres of citizens in india ?
India still joined the Commonwealth.
India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.

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that's what they want you to think
Can you elucidate on that?
only SOME members of the royal family are required to "show up" for SOME ceremonies

and there is a lot of activity that does NOT get reported in the press
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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly
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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly


India won its freedom from British colonial rule in 1947, after many decades of struggle. Mohandas Gandhi, known as Mahatma Gandhi, joined the fight in 1914 and led the country to independence, using his method of nonviolent protest known as satyagraha


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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly

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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly

Great movie.
Now you know why the British withdraw from India without firing a shot. They did not want to end up in a Indian bestseller movie.

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only SOME members of the royal family are required to "show up" for SOME ceremonies

and there is a lot of activity that does NOT get reported in the press
They do get some moments of privacy and those considered not to be senior royals get more privacy unless they do something considered inappropriate and therefore newsworthy. The royals are also subjected to what are professional gossip mongers, the papers frequently feature articles about the royals and those article’s credibility relies on something like “a royal expert has said” “a palace insider has claimed” “a royal source has alleged,” all basically appeals to some anonymous authority. There are also royal biographers who have never spoken to a member of the royal family but rely on similar gossip. Although the royal family has the legal right to sue for libel, it is unlikely that they would do so because of royal protocol, and the media knows this. Stories about the royals sell papers and the gullible lap up all they read.
 
Personally, I am neither pro nor anti royal. Although I do find all the pageantry and ritual fascinating in a surreal sort of way.
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only SOME members of the royal family are required to "show up" for SOME ceremonies

and there is a lot of activity that does NOT get reported in the press
They do get some moments of privacy and those considered not to be senior royals get more privacy unless they do something considered inappropriate and therefore newsworthy. The royals are also subjected to what are professional gossip mongers, the papers frequently feature articles about the royals and those article’s credibility relies on something like “a royal expert has said” “a palace insider has claimed” “a royal source has alleged,” all basically appeals to some anonymous authority. There are also royal biographers who have never spoken to a member of the royal family but rely on similar gossip. Although the royal family has the legal right to sue for libel, it is unlikely that they would do so because of royal protocol, and the media knows this. Stories about the royals sell papers and the gullible lap up all they read.
 
Personally, I am neither pro nor anti royal. Although I do find all the pageantry and ritual fascinating in a surreal sort of way.
Both Trump and Americans can learn from the Monarchy how to earn the respect of its subjects.
Trump as a former president was impeached twice.

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Both Trump and Americans can learn from the Monarchy how to earn the respect of its subjects.
Trump as a former president was impeached twice.
Here in the UK Trump is mostly seen as a joke; even his name is a joke “trump” means “fart.”
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Although I do find all the pageantry and ritual fascinating in a surreal sort of way.
hypnotic even
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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly

i think the brits might have fired a few shots
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India gained its independence from Britain without firing a single shot.
not exactly

i think the brits might have fired a few shots
Like the Americans that withdrew from Vietnam and Afghanistan without firing a shot so did the British leave India without firing a shot.

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Like the Americans that withdrew from Vietnam and Afghanistan without firing a shot so did the British leave India without firing a shot.
shots were fired in all of your examples
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Alluri Sitarama Raju and Komaram Bheem were real-life Indian freedom fighters, albeit ones who lived decades apart and never actually met. [**]
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Alluri Sitarama Raju and Komaram Bheem were real-life Indian freedom fighters, albeit ones who lived decades apart and never actually met


Who won independence for India?


Mohandas GANDHI

Years of nonviolent resistance to British rule, led by Mohandas GANDHI and Jawaharlal NEHRU, eventually resulted in Indian independence in 1947. Large-scale communal violence took place before and after the subcontinent partition into two separate states - India and Pakistan.

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I agree.


But one must consider whether the system is beneficial in the long term.

And me being a British minion, thinks that it is.
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I agree, the concept of a Monarchy makes me throw up in my mouth.
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Which area of UK does Trump mean fart? That seems extremely local slang...
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Large-scale communal violence took place before and after the subcontinent partition into two separate states
but somehow, "not a single shot was fired"
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But one must consider whether the system is beneficial in the long term.

And me being a British minion, thinks that it is.
please be slightly more specific
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Which area of UK does Trump mean fart? That seems extremely local slang...
Trump is a common slang term for fart, it originated in the north but is now widely used across England. It refers to the trumpeting sound made when breaking wind. His name caused some amusement long before he became President.
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Are you a fan of Bush? I prefer my presidents well trimmed.
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Are you a fan of Bush? I prefer my presidents well trimmed.
No, the first one was okay but of no real importance over here, the second one however dragged us into a bloody silly war.
 
The name Bush doesn’t quite have the same amusement value, as apart from the innuendo it can equally mean a shrub or a fox’s tail. Trump however can only mean a fart or a bragging inadequate.