"I think i've asked you if you believe in multi-verse hypothesis and you said no, but i like what science is doing there bc i think if there is anything spiritual at all..."
"Why does every human have unique fingerprints and/or is it possible for there to be the same fingerprints? Lol... i guess that has to do with bio."
How confident are you that the universe hasn't always existed and has just been expanding infinitely? Basically, there was no big bang and everything has just been expanding and moving infinitely?Actually, I don't particularly like the multiverse theory, but it is a necessary result of quantum fluctuations, and so it is one of the scientific theories that I reluctantly accept because the quantum fluctuation principles indicate it and the evidence suggests that a multiverse is very likely.
No two fingerprints have EVER been found to be identical.
"How confident are you that the universe hasn't always existed and has just been expanding infinitely? Basically, there was no big bang and everything has just been expanding and moving infinitely?"
Which type of multi-verse would you say is most likely? I personally like the multi-verse versions where there are an infinite and/or endless and/or undetermined amount. I also like to think that not all universes have the same laws. What do you think of those two points?
"If there are multiple universes that are endless as i describe above... isn't it almost certain there is a Boltzmann Brain (conscious universe)?"
"Do you the same can be said for the human brain? That's why we are all slightly different bc no two brains form the same? Or, is the mind a little more tricky? Bc i guess there are people that have similar personalities... I just wonder if any two people can have the same exact personality.
From quantum fluctuations, universes come, so I don't see why it couldn't be infinite, and I don't see why any of those universes would have the same laws of physics...to me the laws themselves are arbitrary, it's all about how the universe forms from quantum fluctuations.
No, if it's truly endless then there's a universe that destroys all conscious universe's and ours is destroyed.
I think it can be said for all of our DNA, therefore all of our cells, therefore all of our tissues, therefore all of our organs
"To me, this means the chances of some kind of other intelligence existing out there would be high. This doesn't necessarily mean a "god" type intelligence although it can, but i think the chances of specific intelligences to their universe is quite high"
" The question is always if these intelligence can communicate / interact with our world. I would think the only way that could be possible is through energy."
"That's why i find it even more curious that all supernatural phenomena is in the form of energy"
"What do you think of infinite? Do you think it's more on the lines of just not having any boundaries? Infinite would make more sense than finite right?"
"Would you say evolution is proven? And if so, how well do you think it's proven ... Overwhelmingly"
"Could it also be possible humans evolved out of more than one animal?"
See I would think it would be done through some form of electromagnetic radiation, energy all the same.
What's supernatural phenomena?
I would say our universe shows sign of expanding infinitely, but it most certainly had a beginning.
Well yeah, I mean humans have reptilian brains and mammalian reproduction and birth.
" I think everything we have thought of could be possible in some "possible world." Kinda like modal realism too. It's just a fun idea that would be cool if it's true"
"I'm the most annoying for an atheist to argue. Apart from also being agnostic atheist i also think Santa could actually be real. lol."
"I would say phenomena we currently wouldn't have an answer for. That very likely could be natural so i acknowledge that. But, i am almost positive there is phenomena that we don't have answers for... which is obvious. But i go as far as this phenomena having intelligence and/or intelligently interacting with this world."
"I'm bias in this regard since events of the spiritual nature have happened to me. And more than just once. Spiritual would be defined the same way btw... phenomena that we don't have an answer for but with the addition of intelligence also being a part of it. "
"but i most definitely don't believe there has ever been literally "no" space-time."
"Yeah, i've always found that interesting that we have reptilian brains. It's the amygdala area right?"
It sounds like the MGB argument, but yeah, maybe because the sheer odds of universes the possibility is there...who knows?
Hahah, I'm an agnostic atheist as well, and I think there's a better case for santa's existence than god's.
So, you sound sort of Greek, in that when they didn't have an explanation for something, they assumed intelligence. Rather than charged particles, an intelligence, Zeus, was throwing lightning bolts.
Was it Zeus?
Well, for our universe, there was a time when there was zero spacetime, we've confirmed it with the CMB, the energy density of the early universe, and the inverse of the hubble constant. Was there other spacetime in other universes? Maybe.
The things you mention about drugs are serious, and the implications are real, given this current heroin epidemic.
"Can you explain this to me? How do we know for certain there was "no" space time?"
So the universe's spacetime currently is expanding at a fixed rate, the Hubble constant.By taking the inverse of this rate, we can trace spactime back in time and in size.If it were a correct rate, the CMB radiation wold indicate that by it's scattering, and it does, so we can take this rate back to zero spacetime.Also, the predictions of the energy density of the first bit of space, confirmed by the measured density of the early light elements with an anisotropy probe, show that from zero space, space with energy density comes.
" And if there is nothing and something just pops into existence, well that's very tricky to say the least. So i don't understand how science can confidently say there was no spacetime at any point."
"Hey, I was a biology teacher in Maryland as well for about 30 years, looks like we have something in common. I don't know if I know as much about the universe as you seem to know, but what are the odds?"
And if there is nothing and something just pops into existence, well that's very tricky to say the least.
With no energy, no particles, etc. And, that these things manifested into this preexisting space
"So our universe happened in a preexisting space... and i guess time comes along with our universe in the sense that we have things to measure time after they manifest"
"it seems to me, space-time is the platform for everything else."
Here's the misconception.
I stated much more that just "something".Oh i'm sorry were you saying something?
Wait, I didn't catch that, can you repeat it differently with new numbers and synonyms?
Oh i'm sorry were you saying something?
"Okay... so i have to understand quantum fluctuations before proceeding bc it feels like i'm missing something."
"In regards to particle annihilation, i think i get that. Anti-particles annihilate particles... but these particles, as i am saying, could be a part of space and happen within space."
"So, i'm left with understanding quantum fluctuations. What i know from a quick search is the QF's are a change in the amount of energy at a certain moment. So how does changes in energy mean QF are fundamental to space?"
"From what i'm saying, there could be no energy in space at some point and no particles to interact or annihilate."
Your confused dude, as I made no such iterations ergo there can exist no "reiteration" of what I did not state....could you reiterate closed observed sine wave function collapse?
Ak dark energySo, since there is space remaining and expanding,
Space is not "empty" if there are particles there. Your not thinking straight.the particles will be detectable only in empty space.
