Fauci resigns in disgrace as CDC admits to lying about Covid lockdowns.

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If Fauci takes the blame, the donors get completely away with it. :)
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Not if their names are not redacted.
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Hahaha, you have a lot to learn about corporations and the Illuminati.

Fauci is a fall guy, a meatshield 
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So is Biden.
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Exactly
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If you, a friend or a loved one remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 at this point – for whatever reason – you are at higher risk for dying if you do become infected.
That's the conclusion of a report The Associated Press released looking at COVID-19 deaths during May 2021.
Of more than 18,000 people who died from COVID-19, for example, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That's less than 1%.
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Bingo. Omicron saved America, not Moderna or Fauci.
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The State Department, in 2018 stated there was a lab in Wuhan studying bat coronaviruses that had extremely low safety standards. They stated that, if there was going to be another pandemic, it would likely arise from that lab. [1] [2] [3]

Documents from the NIH, specifically Fauci's office, show he funded gain-of-function research through different grants. [4] [5]

In 2018, the NIH specifically wrote a news brief on how the Wuhan Institute of Virology is studying bat coronaviruses and how NIAID (which was chaired by Dr. Fauci at that time) funded the research. [6]

I cited sources from the left and right and government in addition to ones that link to the primary sources so that nobody would claim this is some sort of "witch hunt" on Fauci. The facts blatantly prove he helped fund the research into COVID-19 and that it likely started as a lab leak at a lab that was testing bat coronavirus.

Therefore, Dr. Fauci lied about his involvement in COVID-19 research. There is no question about it.

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The State Department, in 2018 stated there was a lab in Wuhan studying bat coronaviruses that had extremely low safety standards. They stated that, if there was going to be another pandemic, it would likely arise from that lab. [1] [2] [3]
  • False.  In 2018 the US embassy in China sent a memo to Trump's State Dept saying the Wuhan Lab was competent but understaffed and underfunded.
    • The Trump administration did nothing in response but then, the US is not in charge of staffing or funding Chinese labs.  Trump did cancel all US funds to Chinese labs in early 2019,  which could only have exacerbated the embassy's stated concerns.
    • In Spring of 2020, the State Dept leaked these memos to the press
    • On Jan 15, 2021 the State Dept made that memo public along with multiple complaints about China's lack of transparency and came to the unfounded conclusion that therefore the Wuhan lab was doing military research.
    • So Fauci was not aware of these report until after the outbreak
  • Everybody knew that the the Level4 lab in Wuhan was doing risky SARS research.  That lab was built for that purpose, with strong urging from the International community, right on the spot where the first SARS outbreak happened in 2004 for the express purpose of detecting any new mutation quickly (which it did although there are legitimate questions about what China knew for sure when and when it notified the world).  Trump ignored this warning but its not like we were going to give a bunch of money to Chinese lab anyway.
Documents from the NIH, specifically Fauci's office, show he funded gain-of-function research through different grants. [4] [5]
  • Deliberately fuzzy.  Gain-of-function research was halted from 2014-2107 until new protocols were in place.  There is nothing controversial about the govt funding gain-of-function research with those protocols
  • Chinese scientists are not restricted by these US based protocols although the Wuhan lab's standards were higher than any other Chinese lab.
    • Some NIAID research money was allocated to Wuhan for behavioral research that didn't involve any live viruses.
    • Less than $100,000/yr  (less than the salary of one virologist) was given to a Beijing lab that did not do gain-of-function (increased virulence) but did unintentionally have some gain-of-function results and was slow to report these findings to NIAID.  This research was with a non-SARS coronavirus in mice in Beijing and had zero connection to the Wuhan outbreak in spite of Paul's repeated claims.
  • In 2018, the NIH specifically wrote a news brief on how the Wuhan Institute of Virology is studying bat coronaviruses and how NIAID (which was chaired by Dr. Fauci at that time) funded the research. 
  • This was true and smart and the US should be continuing to fund bat coronavirus in Wuhan, where all the bat coronavirus experts are gatherered.
I cited sources from the left and right and government in addition to ones that link to the primary sources so that nobody would claim this is some sort of "witch hunt" on Fauci. The facts blatantly prove he helped fund the research into COVID-19 and that it likely started as a lab leak at a lab that was testing bat coronavirus.
  • False.  You factcheck.org article explains in detail how your breitbart and dailycaller articles are distorting the truth.
Therefore, Dr. Fauci lied about his involvement in COVID-19 research. There is no question about it.
  • Fauci's claim was "the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
    • This statement is 100% true and backed up by your own  factcheck.org sources
    • Paul claims that because we gave any money to the Wuhan lab and money is fungible that's the same thing as funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan.  Which is like saying that because we give money to the Russian rocket program we are funding Russian bio-weapons research.  NIAID stated what research it was funding and that research was not gain-of-function so Paul is guilty of deliberately deceiving the public here to try to unfairly smear Fauci.
    • Paul claims that because we gave money to a Beijing lab that did belatedly report an accidental gain-of-function result we must conclude that NIAID funded intentional gain-of-function research, which is a mentally ill unwarranted conspiracy theory conclusion.
    • Please stop promoting Trump's  fake new propaganda about Fauci.
In fact, let's test your truth-telling capacity here

Which of these statement is true and which is false?

  • 81-year old Fauci announced that he will retire at the end of the year, finishing one of the most celebrated civil  service careers in US History
    • or
  • Fauci resigns in disgrace as CDC admits to lying about Covid lockdowns.

Only one of these can be true, are you rational enough to honestly state which one is true?


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The censorship campaign wasn't thorough enough to allow Fauci to remain as the Congress flips in a few months.
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Fauci says he will ‘likely’ retire by end of Biden’s first term in office


I guess this is Fauci's way of saying Biden's term is now over...lol!

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DeSantis calls for political violence against Fauci.

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Lied about gain of function (the creation of Covid) and lied about his ties to the pharmaceutical industry.


It's not just a problem with Fauci, it's a problem with all  government scientists being paid to confirm whatever the government pays them to confirm, regardless of the science.
I found a lovely little Freudian slip for you that seals your case:


"We did not fund gain-of-function [interrupted by Senator Rand Paul] Dr Baric does not doing fund gain-of-function research and if it is, it is according to the guidelines and conducted in North Carolina" -- Doctor Fauci 

Excuse the dodgy English, but these are his direct words and are a confession. After explicitly denying gain-of-function research for so long, he slips and confesses here. There's no need to go into minutiae. This alone is enough to prove Fauci as a liar and a serious fraud.