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Give 'em hell :)
Welcome to the site 😊
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White privilege is a fact. White superiority is a myth. We just buried a monarch.
Affirmative Action is racist. Discriminating against Asians is okay with Democrats. 
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White privilege is a fact. White superiority is a myth. We just buried a monarch.
Affirmative Action is racist. Discriminating against Asians is okay with Democrat
The Asians are already in control of both parties behind the scenes.
Mitch McConnell’’s wife is Chinese and Vice President Kamala Harris is Indian/Jamaican.


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Black privilege in higher level education compared to Asians. Change my mind
What this proves --or suggests--  is your fine with white privilege for 100's of years, and then when blacks get a little bit you get a tiddle in you brain and have to make posts like this.

Y'll get on back to the plantation where ya'all belong.
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@Avery
Give 'em hell :)

Why give others hell. Did someone give you hell as a child, you've been seeking revenge and dishing out hell ever since?

Another cult follower of the master revenge artist and narcissist, Trumpet,  is my best guess.  Prove me wrong.
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Give 'em hell :)
Welcome to the site 😊
Thanks for welcoming me!
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The Holocaust - Fact or Fiction?

The Moon Landing - Fact or Fiction?

The Earth is flat - Fact or Fiction?
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Marxism helps people prosper: fact or fiction?
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I have to assume: given that you’ve been accusing people of being “intellectual cowards” that you missed this posts

Really?
Yes - you literally said “straw man”; didn’t explain why, nor justified why or how my argument misrepresented your position - indeed, you didn’t even clarify what your position actually was. That makes it an assertion.

So what you're saying...." = classic strawman fallacy.
Only if I misrepresent what you’re saying, which I didn’t - you have yet to say how I actually did that

Yes, you are. And it is in black and white for all to see. 
How exactly? Why did what I said misrepresent your position; I explained why it’s the only way of interpreting what you said.

Your word salad, jumbled arguments, and circular reasoning is quite apparent.
Now this is an  Ad Hominem!

You got caught. Own it. Stop being a liar. Stop being an intellectual coward. Have a little integrity. If that is even possible.
And another Ad Hom!

Stop being an intellectual coward? You assert I’m making a straw man twice, refuse to explain why, or clarify what your position actually - then call me a bunch of names. Hardly the pinnacle intellectual bravery. 

I - on the other hand - explained, logically, why that particular position is white supremacy - you have no answer to that : and I explained how and why my characterization of your position is entirely accurate - you have no answer.  I’ve responded to every point.

It’s hardly intellectual cowardice to not agree with some nonsense you just made up from nothing.

I presume, however, that you’re going to round off this exchange by calling me names and refusing to actually respond to any of the arguments, throwing out a number of excuses as to why you wont respond; and then capitulate like you have in every other thread. 
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Stop being an intellectual coward? You assert I’m making a straw man twice, refuse to explain why, or clarify what your position actually - then call me a bunch of names. Hardly the pinnacle intellectual bravery. 

I - on the other hand - explained, logically, why that particular position is white supremacy - you have no answer to that : and I explained how and why my characterization of your position is entirely accurate - you have no answer.  I’ve responded to every point.

It’s hardly intellectual cowardice to not agree with some nonsense you just made up from nothing.

I presume, however, that you’re going to round off this exchange by calling me names and refusing to actually respond to any of the arguments, throwing out a number of excuses as to why you wont respond; and then capitulate like you have in every other thread. 
Good call!
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The Asians are already in control of both parties behind the scenes.
Mitch McConnell’’s wife is Chinese and Vice President Kamala Harris is Indian/Jamaican.
False. The Democratic Party is headed by Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer, who are all white. The GOP is run by Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, and Kevin McCarthy, who are all white. Harris literally does nothing except break ties in the Senate. Elaine Chao doesn’t run the Senate 
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I have to assume: given that you’ve been accusing people of being “intellectual cowards” that you missed this posts

Really?
Yes - you literally said “straw man”; didn’t explain why, nor justified why or how my argument misrepresented your position - indeed, you didn’t even clarify what your position actually was. That makes it an assertion.

And yet you've done the same you claim here with Avery, hypocrite. 

Except in my response to you I did explain and requoted the quote proving same. You ignored it. Your problem, not mine. 
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What this proves --or suggests--  is your fine with white privilege for 100's of years, and then when blacks get a little bit you get a tiddle in you brain and have to make posts like this.

Y'll get on back to the plantation where ya'all belong.
Where do you “white” in my statement. This is about Asians vs Blacks.
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Good Call!!!

How far up his rear end are you trying to get? Brown noser! 
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And yet you've done the same you claim here with Avery, hypocrite. 
I am sorry that you have no answer for anything I said, but don’t make things up. This is just a bald faced lie. We both know it.

By all means, link and post the quote where I did anything of the sort. We both know you won’t, because no such post actually exists.

Except in my response to you I did explain and requoted the quote proving same. You ignored it. Your problem, not mine.  
Again, my argument must have absolutely nailed you to the wall if you need to make up such a ridiculous bald faces lie. I’m sorry it’s so hard for you to find reasons to object to what I said - but this sort of absurd denial of reality is not a solution.

You didn’t do either of those things; this is a lie.

By all means link and quote a response to me where you explained why what I said misrepresented your position.

You won’t, because no such post actually exists.

The only replies you’ve made, is your wild unsupported accusations in posts #62, and repeating those same wild accusations in post #64, throwing in a bunch of insults.








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Black man reviewing info and discusses white privilege: https://youtu.be/yA735N6CCV0 realizing it’s in fact, pure fiction. 

Here’s another with a good discussion and breakdown3
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As a white person, many crimes I may commit will net much lower prison sentences than if I were black.
This was an insightful post, because you referred to an empirically demonstrable trend that can be measured and is verifiably the case.

But the problem isn't that white people receive preferential treatment, even to the extent that may appear to be the case based on certain data sets.  Rather, the problem is that our so called criminal justice system fails all with differing degrees of horror when certain racial groups are compared to one another.  After all, there are more races than only black and white.   The picture is a lot more complicated when the baseline is adjusted to account for the diversity in our society.  

My point is not that non-equitable outcomes don't matter.  It's about the nature of the conversation anyone is necessarily having, to the extent they're discussing so called "white privilege."  Is the outcome desired, to give more power to the state to be more barbaric to more people, if only the degree of barbarity is similar from group to group?  I should hope not.

That's why the conversation needs to change.  All this discussion about so called "white privilege" does nothing to solve the underlying problems that create the metrics we say illustrate the trends.  But solving the problems seems like it might be more productive.  Or at least trying to do so. 
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It's about the nature of the conversation anyone is necessarily having, to the extent they're discussing so called "white privilege."  Is the outcome desired, to give more power to the state to be more barbaric to more people, if only the degree of barbarity is similar from group to group?  I should hope not.

That's why the conversation needs to change.  All this discussion about so called "white privilege" does nothing to solve the underlying problems that create the metrics we say illustrate the trends.  But solving the problems seems like it might be more productive.  Or at least trying to do so. 
This has always been my problem with the white privilege narrative too. I think a lot of it is BS but the parts that are real would be better termed as “black oppression”—like it’s good that bad things aren’t happening to white people even if they shouldn’t be happening to anyone. It’s not a “privilege” to be treated justly. But the language as it stands exists to demoralize whites and drive further division. Not a coincidence!
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I agree.  The term "white privilege" exists to create intra-class division between whites and blacks, so everyone is distracted with issues that cannot be solved while those that can are rigged against both (within the middle and working classes).  

By even engaging in the discussion, intra-class division is fomented.  Which is the whole point.  And the solution?  Expand the power of the state, of course.  And limit everyone's freedom even further. 

This idea that problems must be examined at a "systemic" level such that they require action by the government --- and especially the federal government --- is toxic and should be purged from the consciousness of all Americans. 
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This study is worth taking a look at.

So yes, Blacks are returning to prison more often, despite the growing trend of societal coddling  to replace agency due to skin color.

When a person (mostly men) is released from prison, if they do not have a strong family to fall back on, they will be back in prison. Sorry, but single moms are simply not cutting it.

Despite all this, we KNOW single moms produce "unpriveleged" children.

And the 3 strikes rule then guarantees harsher sentencing.

Lighter sentencing isn't fixing anything either.

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Most divorces by a really large margin are instigated by the woman. The laws need to change to stop rewarding women for choosing divorce which ultimately harms the children.
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Modern Society has a culture that promotes the vestigial instinct of hypergamy in women while simultaneously suppressing the vestigial instincts of a man to provide and protect and impose order. This imbalance cannot last.
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That's why the conversation needs to change.  All this discussion about so called "white privilege" does nothing to solve the underlying problems that create the metrics we say illustrate the trends.  But solving the problems seems like it might be more productive.  Or at least trying to do so. 
i was watching a television show a while back

where a group of factory workers went on strike because the women were being paid less than the men

and the owner proposed fixing the problem by cutting the pay for all the men to match what the women were being paid

the strike was called off immediately
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I agree.  The term "white privilege" exists to create intra-class division between whites and blacks, so everyone is distracted with issues that cannot be solved while those that can are rigged against both (within the middle and working classes).  
bingo

"racism" has always been a game invented by the oligarchs in order to keep the workers fighting against each other
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I agree.  The term "white privilege" exists to create intra-class division between whites and blacks, so everyone is distracted with issues that cannot be solved while those that can are rigged against both (within the middle and working classes).  
bingo

"racism" has always been a game invented by the oligarchs in order to keep the workers fighting against each other
The oligarchs are mostly white and privileged.

White privilege is a fact. No one can deny whites have dominated the world scene from empires to colonialism and exploited every other race in its path. If not for the 2 world wars in Europe that weakened the utopian belief in white invincibility and supremacy, the colonists had to retreat weakened and exposed. 
With World demographics changing, it is only a matter of time when whites become the minority.  White privilege will be a thing of the past.
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White privilege is a fact.
less than 3% of white americans were slave owners before the american civil war
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Here’s a documentary about white privilege, told by a black man living undercover as a white person:


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White privilege is a fact.
less than 3% of white americans were slave owners before the american civil war
That 3% of white Americans who owned slaves did not include the number of people the slaves had to serve which included the owners family, relatives, friends and neighbours.
More than half the souther states were Slave states. So the 3% is misleading.
The number of slaves each slave owner owned is also important to arrive at the true number of slaves in America.
 So, according to the Census of 1860, 30.8 percent of the free families in the confederacy owned slaves. That means that every third white person in those states had a direct commitment to slavery.

The civil war divided the entire country between slave states and free states. 

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Most of the world is Asian and African, so no. Whites do not rule most of the world. That's basic demographics.

Asia alone has double the GDP of the USA. Africa is expected to surpass the USA GDP in a few decades.