How many ran for President?
Bill Clinton. Joe Biden. A couple of Republicans besides Trump. The list goes on. Whatever the means that they employed to avoid serving, the fact is that they avoided serving.
No, being subject to the draft. That rest of your comment is incoherent.
It's really simple.
When it comes to women and the possibility of being pregnant against their will, you would contend that "bodily autonomy trumps all". But when it comes to men and the draft, where the length of conscription is longer than 9 months and the risk of dying is much higher than for the average pregnancy in a 1st world country, you call it a duty of citizenship.
Either "bodily autonomy" matters or it doesn't. There's no reason to apply a different standard to men and women.
Authentic deferments are not immoral.
In the 1960s, college was largely a privilege for the rich and middle class/upper middle class. It wasn't like today where your average Joe from a $42,000 income household is expected to go off after graduating high school.
If you were poor and single, you likely couldn't afford to secure a lawful deferment. That was a privilege of the rich and the attractive. The best you could manage was to ask your local doctor to say you have some disqualifying condition.
According to you, these average men were immoral because they did exactly what the rich did but without it being legalized because they were rich.
My point is, the rules for deferment were bogus. They were laws but there was no moral dimension to breaking them, since the obligation of service was not equal between rich and poor Americans.
you have already made clear you would do anything to shirk your responsibilities of citizenship
And so, when the conversation doesn't go your way, you turn to insulting people.So much for everyone here being a partisan wackjob while you alone are rational and civil.
To be clear, in principle yes: it's my inalienable right not to risk my life if I choose not to. And it's my moral right to kill anyone who tries to force that risk on me, with this being unequivocal self-defense on my part.
In practice, however, if tomorrow Uncle Sam asked me to serve then I would. I actually did try to enlist back in 2019, though it turned out I'm medically disqualified on at least two counts. And probably three.
The guys fleeing to Canada were honest in taking a stand that they did not support this war
That wasn't the question though.
You said that, by declining to serve, Trump made somebody else serve in his place. How did the draft dodgers who fled to Canada manage not to do this? How did those who avoided serving through student deferments alone?
Biden had the same deferment as Trump but he really had asthma.
As it so happens, I have mild asthma. It's not debilitating, but I couldn't imagine being a star football player. Granted, I was never sporty to begin with, but this is something on top of that.
And I mentioned baseball for a reason: that sport kicks up a lot of dust. The odds of Joe Biden knowingly having asthma and playing baseball at the same time are rather slim. And yet, he played baseball in the same age range when he allegedly had asthma.
Which is to say that the odds of Biden faking it are just as high as the odds of Trump faking his bone spur.
Believe or not, football is not as hard as combat.
So then, you admit that combat conditions are rough, and that something like a bone spur which wouldn't matter so much in civilian life could be a dealbreaker for the army.
Glad to hear it.
The bone spur that only existed during the threat of being drafted.
Says who?
The bone spur that Trump couldn’t remember which foot it was on.
Because, again, under civilian conditions it was a minor ailment and it happened decades ago. I likely wouldn't have remembered if I were him.
