Contradictions in religious textbooks

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Why is this relevant in a contradictions argument?

Bring me some supposed 'contradictions' from the Quran. 

This is what I am here for, to answer them all. 
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The prophet Muhammad formally known as muhammad. 
Apparently he was like a really really nice guy. 
He was just ace.
 


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Who would win a  " Prophet off "
 Muhammad or jesus ?
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Muslims love Jesus (PBUH). We believe he is a highly important Prophet who will kill the antichrist in the future. He did miracles through the power of God, he had a miraculous birth from a Virgin. 

Muhammed (PBUH), is the last prophet. This is the difference. He is probably the most important of Prophets as he received the revelation of contradiction, error free Quran and miraculous Quran. 

Comparison with Prophets is not the way to go. 

I obviously know what you are trying to do, provoking a Muslim gets you 10 rookie points. Maybe learn something and then type on that keyboard of yours, you absolute warrior. 
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Before one gets into the  Contradictions in religious texts , one must have a rough picture on how this book we are going to pick apart  come to be. 
So with the koran book one that was ..
Now stop me if im wrong. 
That book was verbally  put to Muhammed from the god thing through a angle.   
Soooooo lets quickly run the numbers on this ,   thats through a god 
I mean 
From a god then though a angle.

I'm  stumped. 
Look I dont have a calculator nearby.   
Any idea on what (  From a god )  + ( throug a angle )   =  ?  

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What about the the vagina bits.

Not to mention all the endocrinal differences.

And the propensity for doing the laundry.
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Who came first J or M.

Therefore in terms of importance and seniority J is obviously more important than M.

Stands to reason.

As it also stands to reason that books written by men are just that.

Though people have a tendency to think and output relative to conditioning.

So one would expect Mr Muslim to contradict Mr Christian and vice versa.

And Mr Atheist thinks that Mr Muslim and Mr Christian are both a bit bonkers.


@Deb.

And GODDO said:

If the angle of the dangle = the heat of the beat.

Then the throb of the knob is constant.
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What about the the vagina bits.

 They were stitched on after, Vic lad. I thought everyone knew that.


And the propensity for doing the laundry.

Stop being silly. They would have just simply plucked a new leaf from the nearest tree.... and discarded the filthy dead one.
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@Stephen
Well.

Stitching on?

Or cutting of and making an incision?

Might imply Eve first, and then GODDO (she perhaps,  being  the seamster that they obviously were) took Eves rib and sewed on one of her six toes (removing the opposite  to provide balance and uniformity).

Would also explain the big feet big whotsit adage.

So just be thankful that your Mum wore size 9's.


How did they attach the leaves before velcro?

Resin perhaps.

Sticky pubes as it were.
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Do feed the trolls.
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Trolls will be trolls. I know exactly what is going on. However life is short lived. Which means trollhood is short lived. Religion is permanent
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There are numerous contradictions throughout ALL religious texts.

When there are multiple languages and differing interpretations, written and re-written over hundreds and hundreds of years, nothing will come out perfectly as originally intended. 

Religion, organized religion, is the very first known human example of the concept of psychology of selling a product that resulted in mass psychosis and mass hysteria. 
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Yes yes theists are all mentally ill and too stupid to know what they're doing, we know. 
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Well stated.
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Yes yes theists are all mentally ill and too stupid to know what they're doing, we know. 
to the contrary, they were very smart in regard to human psychology and social psychology. That's why they were so good at selling their dogma via imminent threats of direct and indirect violence in the name of 'God.'

but they were mentally ill, yes; takes a special kind of derangement to wantonly kill and commit acts of genocide to serve one's own interests but call it 'God's Will.'
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Yes all theists are mentally ill, evil and pieces of shit. We know. We should loose our kids and be put in camps. Someday you will out number all of us and get your wish.
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never said "all"
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Sure you did. Atheist don't have degrees of theism. You're either a theist or an atheist and you said theist so there you go. If you meant a certain religious group then you should have used their name but you didn't. You said theist so don't play games, stand by what you say and own your hate.
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Sadly all religious books contain contradictions.
It is hard to write about things that we know very little about. So we leave it to our imagination. Sex is the only thing that works well even when we imagine the entire act. Now you know why Christians are obsessed with the virgin birth.

What can be more stimulating than divine Rape?

Luke 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God. 

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Mary consented to sex with God.
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Mary consented to sex with God.

What can be more stimulating than divine Rape?

Luke 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God.



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Mary said something about letting God’s will be done.

But he lost all respect from me when he insists that abortion should be banned because it kills children and then kills children in Egypt.  Imagine if non consenting children were expected to give their lives for someone else.  He says it was to end slavery.  This isn’t a consistent argument because the Bible supports slavery.

I think if God exists, he is a robot designed to slow humanity’s progress so his alien species could conquer the universe.  If he didn’t want abortions, he would have given people condoms and birth control pills.
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Mary said something about letting God’s will be done.

But he lost all respect from me when he insists that abortion should be banned because it kills children and then kills children in Egypt.  Imagine if non consenting children were expected to give their lives for someone else.  He says it was to end slavery.  This isn’t a consistent argument because the Bible supports slavery.

I think if God exists, he is a robot designed to slow humanity’s progress so his alien species could conquer the universe.  If he didn’t want abortions, he would have given people condoms and birth control pills.

Virgin births are rare today because women take contraceptives to prevent that from happening. And when that fails resort to Abortion. This is why Christian men are against abortions. They believe it stops Jesus from return as promised, obviously through another virgin birth.

Great point.
That is if you believe like most Americans that Jesus picked America for his return. Abortion is legal in Israel. The first virgin birth did not turn out so good for the Jewish people.

Remember Mary was a virgin. She was in no position to resist divine rape. But women today are better prepared against virgin births and divine rape.

What can be more stimulating than divine Rape?

Luke 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God.



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@Shila
Virgin births are rare today because women take contraceptives to prevent that from happening. 
Virgin births I don’t know how they could happen.  You need sperm to create a kid.

This is why Christian men are against abortions. They believe it stops Jesus from return as promised, obviously through another virgin birth.
People (men and women, religious and irreligious), have a good chance of opposing abortion because they see it as the unjustified killing of an unborn child.  95% of biologists believe abortion kills a child.
That is if you believe like most Americans that Jesus picked America for his return. Abortion is legal in Israel. The first virgin birth did not turn out so good for the Jewish people.
The Americans who are religious have no idea where Jesus is going to return to.

I don’t like abortion being legal anywhere.

Remember Mary was a virgin. She was in no position to resist divine rape. But women today are better prepared against virgin births and divine rape.
Virgins can say no to sex, but Mary did not.  She wanted to get pregnant by God.


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Virgins can say no to sex, but Mary did not.  She wanted to get pregnant by God.

Luke tells us Mary was overpowered by God and the Holy Spirit came (ejaculated)on her. She was gang raped. Christians call the threesome the Trinity which produced Jesus.

Luke 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[b] the Son of God.


Besides she was also lied too.

Luke 1:28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
29 Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

Jesus was crucified and never received the throne of his father David. Jesus is a house keeper in heaven preparing rooms for guests.
John 14:2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?