Thought Terminating Cliches

Author: Double_R

Posts

Total: 185
bmdrocks21
bmdrocks21's avatar
Debates: 6
Posts: 2,798
4
6
11
bmdrocks21's avatar
bmdrocks21
4
6
11
-->
@Greyparrot
Until we actually need troops.

Sadly, most Americans are so fat and full of health issues that it would be slim pickings if we ever needed to do another draft
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@bmdrocks21
2022 can't meet quotas as it is. 
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,260
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Greyparrot
Whatever it takes to fix the fuckup Biden did. At least we agree.
We agree that you’re for socialism now.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
That's how much in the toilet Biden took the country. The alternative is to wait 20 years for the market to correct 1 year of devastatingly bad economic policy, Maybe your kid will thank you for that, but mine wont.

It's bad enough that it's going to take 5 years to reverse the self-induced inflation with the current Fed monetary policies. Call it a lesson for people ignoring a presidential candidate when they promise to end the economy.
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
It's bad enough that it's going to take 5 years to reverse the self-induced inflation with the current Fed monetary policies.
The Fed announced the first round of QE, known as QE1, in November 2008. It officially kicked off in March 2009 and concluded a year later, with the U.S. central bank purchasing $1.25 trillion total in mortgage-backed securities, $200 billion in agency debt and $300 billion in long-term Treasury securities. [**]
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
The Fed announced the first round of QE, known as QE1, in November 2008.
That is not a current Fed policy. Why are you spamming threads with useless information?
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
That is not a current Fed policy. Why are you spamming threads with useless information?
that's when this "inflation problem" started

Now a little over a year after our last piece, the Federal Reserve has updated the numbers. Sadly it’s no longer 40 percent of all U.S. dollars that were printed since 2020, not 50 percent and not even 70 percent. Since January 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of all US dollars in existence. [**]
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
Sadly it’s no longer 40 percent of all U.S. dollars that were printed since 2020,
Yeah, 2020 hit a breaking point.

80% of all US dollars in existence were printed in the last 22 months (from $4 trillion in January 2020 to $20 trillion in October 2021)
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
80% of all US dollars in existence were printed in the last 22 months (from $4 trillion in January 2020 to $20 trillion in October 2021)
and this has nothing to do with biden
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
It has to do with his administration. Like Coal and I keep pointing out .
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
It has to do with his administration. Like Coal and I keep pointing out .
the office of the president does not set policy for the federal reserve
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
During the Great Recession, the war forced far left FDR to relax production regulations (like ending oil). The fed printed money to get out of the recession and it only worked because the regulations limiting supply were lifted. Biden's administration is 100 percent responsible for not following through on lifting regulations.

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL


Standing six foot three and a former boxer, Big Bill Knudsen was a Danish immigrant who had worked his way up from the factory floor to become head of Chevrolet and then GM. He knew the natural productivity of American capitalism first hand. He also knew that unleashing that productive power would be the key to winning World War II–and to getting America out of its decade-long depression (unemployment in 1940 still stood at 16 percent).

“I’m no soldier,” Knudsen told Roosevelt when he got to Washington that May, “But I know if we get into war, the winning of it will be purely a question of material production.” He persuaded FDR that three steps were needed to get America’s businesses and factories ready for getting back to work, and getting ready for war.

The first was to rethink Roosevelt’s own anti-business instincts, and to bring industry leaders into the administration to deal with the production crisis.

The second was to scrap many of the New Deal’s anti-business regulations and tax policies, in order to give businesses an incentive to switch to wartime production and hire workers, retool, and expand their plants.

The third was to take control of the war mobilization process away from Washington bureaucrats and give it to America’s most innovative and productive companies.21.

3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
in order to give businesses an incentive to switch to wartime production and hire workers, retool, and expand their plants.
all we need now is WW3
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
WW3 won't save us from Biden. He is no FDR willing to say he fucked up.
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,260
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Greyparrot
That's how much in the toilet Biden took the country.
You really do believe the US is the only country on earth don’t you?

Call it a lesson for people ignoring a presidential candidate when they promise to end the economy.
Another example of why you are not worth being taken seriously.

Biden did not say he was going to end the economy, that’s just plain stupid.

Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
You really do believe the US is the only country on earth don’t you?
The only one with Biden and double digit inflation.  Every other country has their own person to blame.

Biden did not say he was going to end the economy, that’s just plain stupid.
Case in point, ending oil actually ended the economy.


Disgusted left wing moderator "why would you do that Biden???!!"
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
Now Biden says “my administration is doing everything to help gas prices”

You own these gas prices all of you Biden voters, you did this!!

Well Americans do you regret voting on personalities instead of their policies. You may not like Trump as a person, but you don't need too. Emotion needs to be kept out of these decisions. Approach it like a business decision.

"Why would you do that?!" Kristen was trying to help him out by moving on. She couldn't believe he admitted it, publicly, live on air.

He owns your pain 100%.. If you voted for him hopefully you feel it the most. Don't blame him.. Blame the people YOU PERSONALLY KNOW - boycott their businesses, unfriend them, disown them, disinherit them, etc.

Now you know why gas prices are through the roof.

How’s that green energy transition working for ya Brandon? 7 bucks a gallon and climbing.

If you asked him the hypothetical question, "Mr. Biden, do you believe in flying?" Biden answers, "Yes, I absolutely do believe in it. When I was a young bird, I used to fly all the time! And when I'm President we will make wings mandatory as a part of Bidencare!" The man will agree with any statement that he thinks will get a vote. Or disagree with anything that Trump says. He doesn't care about the consequences.

Lol and now everyone is surprised that gas prices have risen. At least the man is living up to his campaign promises. And now we are literally paying for them.

Wow Joe you plan is working so flawless! I'm already seeing results!!

I remembered that promise Mr. President and it's hurting all of us especially the "working man" that the Left pretends to care about.

Many MANY investments were made by democrats especially Pelosi into the renewable energy companies and electric car companies before this started to happen, there is no really big incentive to invest in nuclear since it doesn't make as much quick revenue, so if you needed another view point, it could EASILY be money that they want, you know, to pay for more campaigns and for personal reasons of course.


3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
  • The New Deal [FDR] advocated government spending as a key economic driver boosting consumer demand.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
There was a lot more to the new deal than just spending at the start. Go read Wickard vs Filburn.
3RU7AL
3RU7AL's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 14,582
3
4
9
3RU7AL's avatar
3RU7AL
3
4
9
-->
@Greyparrot
Wickard vs Filburn
and this is something you're a fan of ?
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@3RU7AL
Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
-->
@Greyparrot
Gay marriage is fine and moderate.
And yet only 22% of House Republicans voted on Tuesday to codify the right to same-sex marriage into federal law. Kenya imagine that. 

Fortunately we only need 20% of Senate Republicans to vote yes. Come on, scumbags! You can do it! 

Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,260
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Greyparrot
You own these gas prices all of you Biden voters, you did this!!

Well Americans do you regret voting on personalities instead of their policies. You may not like Trump as a person, but you don't need too. Emotion needs to be kept out of these decisions. Approach it like a business decision.
First of all, the irony of the party of family values who spent 4 years attacking Obama for everything from a Tan Suit to ordering fancy mustard on his hot dog now claiming personality doesn’t matter when Trump comes along never ceases to amaze me.

But more importantly, your posts have been too ridiculous to really focus on this, but there is no reason to believe Trump would have made any significant difference in anything you’re claiming. Gas prices is a global phenomenon. That’s a fact. And we know why it’s a fact, just like inflation; it’s the result of economic displacement resulting from COVID. Every serious analyst knows this.

All you do is sit there and go “dUh gas prices were low with Trump and high with Biden, so it’s all Biden’s fault!”

So no, this is not as you falsely portray a decision on emotion vs business. Biden voters recognize that Trump benefited from a prosperous period created for him. Biden inherited the mess of COVID, which no president is responsible for or could have prevented. Correlation does not = causation.

Understanding the real world is a nuanced task. If you’re not willing or not able to look at things in any level them take a seat, this is above your pay grade.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
 no reason to believe Trump would have made any significant difference in anything you’re claiming.
Trump never made a campaign promise to end oil.

Gas prices is a global phenomenon. That’s a fact.
Ending oil is a local phenomenon with Biden's administration at the helm.

Fact checked TRUE. Mexico has cheaper gas in 2022 and more expensive gas than the USA in 2020.

Someone fucked up.

it’s the result of economic displacement resulting from COVID. 
It's from the lockdowns and then made worse with ridiculous EPA and CDC regulations. The virus itself did  practically nothing. The government injected trillions of dollars without lifting hardly any of the federal regulations on supply, especially oil. Now we have too many dollars chasing too little supply. That is the reason for higher inflation in the USA than most other countries that did not wage a war on oil or independent suppliers. But you already knew this. You are just trying to do your spin thing as usual. Tumpmanbad, Bidenmangood. Same old tired song and dance.

which no president is responsible for or could have prevented. 
The Buck has to stop somewhere even if you think it can't. Otherwise, people would just live life on their own terms instead of what DC says.

Understanding the real world is a nuanced task.
Gaslighting and lying definitely takes a nuanced approach. But keep thinking Trump would have ended oil like Biden did. Keep pushing that narrative. I am sure some idiot will listen.
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 5,260
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Greyparrot
Trump never made a campaign promise to end oil.
Oil has not ended genius.

The fact that your best example of how Biden messed up the entire global gas supply are remarks he made as a candidate says a lot. The least you could do is repeat ILP5 and coals talking points, but you’re not even serious enough to do that.

Fact checked TRUE. Mexico has cheaper gas in 2022 and more expensive gas than the USA in 2020.
The way you measure whether our gas prices are a product of our own policies vs a global condition is not to cherry pick one nation and pretend no other countries exist.

This is kindergarten stuff.

The government injected trillions of dollars without lifting hardly any of the federal regulations on supply, especially oil. Now we have too many dollars chasing too little supply.
And Trump’s name was literally printed on the checks you are referencing.

The Buck has to stop somewhere even if you think it can't.
Then Trump is responsible for the lockdowns and economic collapse of 2020
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
The fact that your best example of how Biden messed up the entire global gas supply are remarks he made as a candidate says a lot. The least you could do is repeat ILP5 and coals talking points, but you’re not even serious enough to do that.

You misspelled local American. Par for the course for a habitual gaslighter. Such nuance, such wow.



 But keep thinking Trump would have ended local American oil like Biden did. Keep pushing that narrative. I am sure some idiot will listen.



Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
When the government disincentified and discouraged oil production along with Increased royalty rates it caused the price of gas to go up. And I know for a fact that the people who lost their jobs in the energy sector because of him never got a good paying green job like he promised he would provide. And you can't solely blame this on the Russian conflict because gas prices have been going up before that.

Now he claims none of the high American gas prices are his fault. It's the Putin tax, remember everyone.

He now claims that he did nothing to lower U.S. oil production

Yep Joe, Nothing you did has caused gas prices to climb to record levels in March 22.

Killing more jobs, really feeling that 'unity' he spoke of.

I cant believe this guy is our president

I’m all about going green but if there’s no replacement for oil or gas then it’s ridiculous

and now we get these ridiculously high gas prices and he blames everyone else but him. who does this guy really work for?

OK go electric vehicles they say... but yet when you ride an electric bicycle or scooter or things as such as the onewheel or electric unicycle (euc for short) or in many cases any personal electric vehicle (pev for short) you get pulled over by cops and told you can't ride them too many laws and regulations not looked into and changed/adjusted for the use of electric vehicles especially pev's which if you live and work in a small city with a short commute to work a pev is great or a congested big city a pev works great saves gas not putting a big vehicle on the road when it's not necessary less pollution less congestion but yet cops stop you because laws are not changed/adjusted to accommodate for such things less laws regarding pev's would be great

The most callous President, the most uncharismatic, the most demented, He knows that our European allies are craving for oil, and gas prices are sky high and yet he just doing the opposite. He release our oil national oil emergency supply only to buy it at a higher price. This guy is a real joke. Even my dog is a lot smarter.

His policies put us in this predicament, i do not understand why he just does not reverse his policies. let Alaska increase the oil coming from the pipeline, we can return to energy independence and all of this inflation will reduce dramatically. For those of you out there who believe in "green new deal" or clean energy, think of this, our consumption has not reduced only the supply has become harder to come by and now we are buying the same amount of oil from countries who produce it in a "dirty" way not as clean as we can produce it here, so actually his policies are hurting the environment not helping it, and the by product is an expense to the American people, he should change his policies to help the American people and in the mean time offer benefits to develop clean energy. I am sorry but the policies make no sense at all, it only hurts us.

The Twilight Zone couldn't have written a better nightmare story than Joe and his Eco Team that doesn't mind putting the cart before the horse and watching us suffer. Notice how they aren't suffering. Easier said than suffered I suppose.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 25,993
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@ILikePie5

His policies put us in this predicament making a global problem exponentially worse for Americans, I do not understand why he just does not reverse his policies. let Alaska increase the oil coming from the pipeline, we can return to energy independence and all of this inflation will reduce dramatically with increased supply.

All of the selling off of the strategic reserves plus demanding oil to be produced in dirty nations isn't helping America or the planet.
Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
-->
@Greyparrot
You may not like Trump as a person, but you don't need to.
Yes but it's a lot easier to brush aside and undermine the influence of his rhetoric or actions when they don't impact you at all. Why would you care if he embraces racist tropes? Why would you care if he appointed people to the Court that threaten gay marriage or abortion rights? The social and financial implications don't affect you. For some reason you think that only the interests of uneducated white Christians working paycheck to paycheck in the coal industry should be prioritized. But what would be the incentive for someone like me to vote for Trump? 

You have to accept that it's not just that Trump's obnoxious personality is off putting. It's that his total disconnect from reality and extreme narcissism show he can't be trusted. No one should assume that his self-interest will necessarily align with the interests of the country. I mean you say "I can't believe this guy [Biden] is president" while hand waving away the fact that Trump has (after lots of violations and questionable behavior) totally ignored and/or disregarded the facts regarding the election for fucks sake. He willfully disregarded all of his closest family members, supporters, advisers and staff, proving he is either totally deranged, unfit for basic decision making or methodically evil.  His plan all along was to declare himself the winner of the election despite the outcome. Yet because you hate liberals so much (for reasons that remain unclear) people like you come up with dumb ass excuse after excuse justifying his totally insane behavior and dereliction of duty. Do you value the constitution or not? Why give allegiance to one person over the country? 

It is baffling to me that at the absolute very least Democrats and Republicans can't come together and say just for the love of fucking god let's not have a rematch of Biden v Trump which nobody wants. I'm already convinced Biden is not going to run in 2024. He may not even be alive at that point, and he's totally lost the confidence of the DNC and Democrat voters whereas by contrast Trump is (in your words) more popular despite  being a total disgrace. Why can't the GOP just nominate DeSantis, take the W and move on? Trump was 100% right when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and his supporters wouldn't care. That's not pro-America. That's not pro-worker. That's a cult, plain and simple.