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So um yeah * kicks dirt *  thats all

Oh and Have a great day guys. 

America's wealthiest pastor Kenneth Copeland is worth $760 million and doesn't pay taxes on his $7 million dollar mansion.

What did Jesus mean when He said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven?

Churches love cash.  Jesus never did.

Yep how dare anybody who has a church that they go to for worship want to contribute to keeping the lights on and the water on and the heat on. Who are these pricks that think they should be able to pay their pastor to be a full-time employee of the church and do what needs done for the church. Who are these assholes that think things like copy paper and copy machines and telephones should be in a church so that they can do Church business. You know who these pricks are? Theists. And they don't deserve to have a place of worship because atheist hate them being able to have religion, they hate that freedom. Which is why they hate the idea of people being able to give their money to the building that they worship in.

I disagree with your view of atheists, even as I am not in that group.

I respect atheists more than the theists who adore a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous garbage God.

As to paying for religions, you should be thanking the atheists who have to pay for religious tax breaks that they do not deserve.

Theists should pay for their own delusions.

Regards

DL

So here we have more lies that theists don't pay taxes. This pay income tax and property tax, same thing that atheists do. Now as far as property tax any non-profit has that benefit so we can thank everybody who's covering taxes for nonprofits whether it's you know a library or museum or church or an atheist organization that might have a building for them to gather in which they're allowed to do and some have. For instance any building that the satanists work out of would be considered a non-profit and is exempt Planned Parenthood exempt. You can continue to be a liar if you want to but nobody's really going to listen to your bull shit, except other atheists who are liars too.

"So here we have more lies that theists don't pay taxes."

Who was stupid enough to say such garbage?

Get the quote so that I might chastise that idiot. 

That or you are the idiot who cannot read.

Regards

DL

True.

You have shown your uselessness.

If you ever want to actually do apologetics and develop decent morals, come on back.

Regards

DL

Where is it you think you're sending me to jail? LOL. It's not my fault that you said something that isn't the truth.  Like I said you can go back there is a button that'll let you edit your post feel free to do that so you don't look like a liar.

I think the post is referring more to the more scandalous askings for money which the church are prone to doing - trading bars of gold for a ticket to heaven, for example. 

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Well, there exist churches who have transparent records of how much money they receive, and how they spend it,

It's not wrong to give people salaries for their work, for building and grounds maintenance, for charity given that many churches for example provide food to the homeless.

I believe they just used the church or religion as an upholding device to anything they think is good tradition, even if Jesus wouldn’t have liked it.

I'd imagine religious people often are or think they're trying,

And maybe think that the gist of what they're trying, is what they think or hope God would want.

Or various individuals in churches history,

Though maybe people change doctrine a bit, as situations and knowledge changes.

Thanks for such a wonderfully inclusive topic. It surely beat my hands down. 

Poly is right. Churches like any other charity - and churches are charities and most do a very good job keeping the taxes down for the state with the programs that they run - are entitled on that basis alone to be tax free.   

Churches have costs like any other organization.   Yes, some churches are dodgy. They rip millions out of people.  Yet churches are not alone in this. There are lots of organization - and this includes public organizations who are corrupt - and which take millions of dollars for themselves and their cronies.  Should we simply tax everyone including the government to make sure such corruption is mitigated against? 

Finally, people need to be a little bit consistent. Do you believe in the separation of church and state or not?  What other organization ought to be separated from the State? Are there others?  Separation of church and state is built on the doctrine of separation of powers.   Separate powers do not tax each other.  Nor do they expect the other to pay them taxes.   Can you imagine if the church demanded the State to pay a tithe? It's nonsense. 

If people want a separation of church and state then they need to stop demanding the church pay taxes.   By demanding taxes, the church thereby is incorporated into the State just like every other legal person.  You can't have your cake and eat it. I know some of you think we can.  But that is purely nonsensical. 

For the record,  many organizations such as Kenneth Copeland ought to be shut down as they are corrupt.  But so should many political parties. And many schools. And many environmental groups.  As well as the nasty gun groups and secret defense programs. 

True, along with the lies in their religions.

Without lies, no God religion would exist, because if one supernatural God exists, then there are many Gods that we are not to put above Yahweh/Jesus. The genocidal combo.

Regards

DL 

Why should a lying church get a tax break, for just being a place where lies and fictions are taught as fact?

Why should liars get away with their religious lies and get tax dollars back for being liars?

Regards

DL

They speak the truth as they see it,

You speak the truth as you see it.

I deal in facts, not fictions.

To respect liars is not the most moral thing to do.

Regards

DL

Says a liar.

You deal in facts as you see it,

They deal in facts as they see it.

The faith of religious fools is not based on facts.

Facts do not need faith as they are demonstrably real.

Regards

DL

Facts build towards beliefs,

As facts are recognitions of what we 'think something is,

Faith is what we hold, for what we 'think, is.

I'd say.

Facts have nothing to do with what idiots or the ignorant think they are.

Facts are facts  and real, even if stupid people do not recognize them as such.

The world is not flat is a fact, even if fools think it is flat.

Regards

DL

Why do you find it necessary to insult people?

Facts are what we 'think is true,

Sure reality 'is, despite what we know of it,

But, we're human,

3 Blind men and the Elephant,

History and the many examples of new truths, old truths being realized as false,

We develop theories about life, and move on from there.

The future of Man are people like GnosticChristianBishop.

Eh, I don't think so, but if they 'were,

How did you know that I was a member of UNITED Atheist Alliance League????

I call them as I see them.

Thanks for the fucking judgement, without showing the where or why, ass hole.

I can really defend myself.

Do you beat your kids without telling them why?

Regards

DL