I'm not religious and I'm not an atheist either

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what's an apatheist?
Apatheism ( / ˌæpəˈθiːɪzəm /; a portmanteau of apathy and theism) is the attitude of apathy towards the existence or non-existence of God (s). It is more of an attitude rather than a belief, claim, or belief system. The term was coined by Robert Nash in 2001.
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That describes the vast majority of people I know.
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In so much as I don't give any credence to religious concepts that involve humanesque or animalesque deities.

GOD principle sound though, in so much as (creation?) matter and evolution may be purposeful.

Creation is a tough one , as it relies upon a something from nothing principle.

Maybe recreation.

But a beginning is unimaginable.
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But a beginning is unimaginable.
NOUMENON is incomprehensible
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So where did the "xbox" come from?

Trouble is, all hypotheses rely on something from nothing. 

And "simulation" has implications beyond just an eternal possibility.

A simulation is a representation of something......Either the representation of a reality or the representation of a hypothesis.


Is it more likely that a simulator and a simulated universal scenario just happened to pop out of nowhere?

And of course, what is being simulated?

I was just using xbox as an example/analogy. I understand the paradox you're talking about, but that paradox is easier to understand with infinity as the platform rather than finite. 

The word "simulation" is a very new human thing... i think it's beyond this word. I think it's beyond what we can understand. The only thing that can be beyond this... is something in the sense of everything being true. A platform that makes everything true, although that is a paradox. But this platform can be real. 

I tend to think of this stuff as "platforms" meaning, what is the platform that can make a simulation true. First step is, ya, an xbox.. but deeper down that rabbit hole is infinite xbox's... so what makes infinite xbox' true? Well, first and foremost, something that can define xbox. I believe the only thing that can define xbox is consciousness. Or whatever that means. 

Add intelligence / consciousness to the equation, a lot more makes sense for now. I believe the simulation, to the best of our knowledge now, is some kind of consciousness platform. That's beyond me, and everyone i believe. But.. i think the very thing we can do as ant finite beings, with a little brain that generates consciousness, is very fundamental to the true platform that is all. 

If you think about it, really, it makes sense. Just like we would say aliens exist, at least the lowest of lifeform, in the universe bc the universe is so big. Well, consciousness exists too, in a seemingly infinite platform. How many ways that can manifest and the implications is beyond me, but makes sense. So when i say simulation, i mean... anything we've imagined is imagined in an infinite platform. So ya.. Santa ironically could be real. 


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I found out Stalin was an atheist, that’s why I believe in a god now. 

There are good and bad religious and atheist people.

Stalin was a bad atheist.  Hitler was a bad Christain.  Bill Gates is a decent atheist.  MLK was a decent Christian.

Your religion has little correlation on whether or not your a good person.
I was joking. It was in part dark humour about how biblical Stalin’s actions were. It plays on the stereotype of atheists being drawn to evil. 

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My math major has showed me some signs of a higher power like the following:

1) sin(x)=x-(x^3/3!)+(x^5/5!)-(x^7/7!)+(x^9/9!) ...
2) cos(x)=1-(x^2/2!)+(x^4/4!)-(x^6/6!)+(x^8/8!) ... 
3) 4(1-(1/3)+(1/5)-(1/7)+(1/9)-(1/11)+)... = pi.
There's more, but I don't think this could all be by chance.

But when I converted to Christianity, their god initially told me to call him, "God".  I did this and I got my prayers answered.  Then he switched to, "Jehovah"(Jehovah's witnesses believe the exact same thing as standard Christianity except they call their God a different name(Jehovah)).  That worked for a little bit, but then he insisted on changing his name again.

This led me to believe that religion is in my head.

So if I'm not religious nor atheist, there needs to be an alternate source of the universe's existence.

This leads me to be a simulationist.  I think we are living on a planet that's in a universe that's in a computer simulation run by aliens and they sent math as proof of their existence.  They invented all these religions as an experiment to see what would happen if they gave humanity many different religions.  There are probably universes where there is only 1 religion and the aliens are collecting the data they are interested in.  The aliens are curious so they experiment on us by presenting stimuli and seeing how we react to this.  They are not all loving nor all powerful, they are just curious to see what happens when certain stimuli is produced .
Computer stimulation is just another word for internet porn.
If you believe aliens are just curious to see what happens when certain stimuli is produced, you must believe you are performing for aliens.

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If you believe aliens are just curious to see what happens when certain stimuli is produced, you must believe you are performing for aliens.
If you define performing as just living my life, I could see that.
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The gift of the matrix of just keeps on giving: atheists now believe the matrix actually exist. And use it as some kind of legit spirituality that they can now use to do insult other spiritualities because they have one of their own. How monotheist of them.
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If you believe aliens are just curious to see what happens when certain stimuli is produced, you must believe you are performing for aliens.


If you define performing as just living my life, I could see that.
You performing to alien stimuli is living under alien stimulation.