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Lmao, nobody on the website, even who supports you thinks your post was closer to responsible or adult-like than mine.

You are the immature troll here, not me. I just do not need to talk of the immaturity of your post to address the point made and debate it.

Stop talking like you speak for anybody but yourself, you have zero authority. Either debate me as an equal or stop @ing me.
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It is entertaining to me that you have chosen to block me, as you now have to undertake greater effort to determine whether I've replied to you or not.  

But my terms have not changed.  You will conform your behaviour to the standard of a reasonable adult or we will not discuss any ideas you may have, the sum of which I have not read.
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The frisson of heated conjecture, maketh the experience.

Are you a headmaster or a tyrant of some sorts?

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Coal... You will conform your behaviour to the standard of a reasonable adult or we will not discuss any ideas you may have, the sum of which I have not read.
 Hi Zed.

In philosophy thread,  and eternally so,

I am Ebuc, the Ebucian from the planet Ebucion. Resistance is futile. All will be assimilated,  as more complex Meta-space bits of information.

except in the in Religion threads, then,

I am data, the Dataorian, from the planet Datoria. Resistance is futile.  All will be assimilated, as more complex absolute principle Meta-physical bits

except in science threads, wherein,

I am  Node,  the Nodal Point, from the planet Nodali. Resistance is futile. All will be assimilated, as more complex quantum bits of occupied space.

except in the politics thread, wherein,

I am ___?___ the ____?___, from the planet ___?____. Resistance is futile. All will be assimilated, as more complex ____?____ ?______.





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Are you a headmaster or a tyrant of some sorts?
They both have a similar insecurity about being challenged and resort to 'you're too disrespectful' whenever they really they're shit out of ideas to counter their opposers with, intellectually (not all headmasters but definitely most are like that, all tyrants are though). xD

So it's a good guess, I'd say.
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Tim Pool predicts the insurrection against Democrats and their anti-science Orwellian world is coming very soon.
INSURRECTION specifically means 'violent uprising against government'  You can't have an insurrection from outside a political party, that would just be an attack.  Pool/GP are specifically praying for another attempt at violent overthrow of the US government here. 

We need only look to GP's sources' for their views on climate change or vaccination  to determine which side is anti-science and which side listens to the consensus of scientists.




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Since  critical speech and Jan 6 was deemed violent, the point is valid.

I have no doubt based on the Summer of Love riots that many Democrats will react violently to the 2022 Congressional revolution ousting the established powers.

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An ODE to 2022 Democrats:

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Democrat Establishments should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know liberty is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good Democrats, the last wave by, lying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the woke plight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave party, near death, who see with blinding sight
Lying eyes could blaze like meteors and sway,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my based brother, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Let them go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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Orangemanbad enthusiast Joe Scarborough from the revered MSNBC outlet predicts an insurrection against the established Democrats in 2022 as well.

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Since  critical speech and Jan 6 was deemed violent, the point is valid.
No honest person would deny that Jan 6th was violent.  138 police officers reported being attacked while trying to fend of the Republicans' lynch mob.  No idea what GP is referring to when he says critical speech was deemed violent.


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Justice for one of the victims of the violent police on Jan 6.
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It was definitely violent, but it wasn't insurrection. They thought they were the loyal ones. That's how it always goes though. You're only a traitor if you lose.
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A congressional inquiry forced USCP to admit that on January 6th, only 195 officers were deployed to interior or exterior posts at the U.S. Capitol.

It's obvious to any rational person that 138 out of 195 officers injured is a complete political fabrication considering all the arrests made by the so-called "injured officers." What is real is 153 police officers have left since Jan 6 along with the well publicized multiple suicides as officers were coerced to attack innocent civilians in a violent manner for misdemeanor trespassing and then lie about what happened.

As Obama infamously said..."The Police Acted Stupidly"
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Do not go gentle into that good night,....

Let them go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Let's note that GP places Republicans in the metaphorical position of the death, darkness, and evil against which Thomas' poem rages. 

Greyparrot is knowingly, objectively siding with surrender and death here and representing that defeatism as the Republican position in American politics.  But I call this longing to surrender to domination and death incompatible with the American experience and whatever rough beast now slouches towards Mar-a-lago is neither American nor Republican in character.  This is Heaven's Gate, People's Temple shit.

To quote another Thomas poem in similar contemplation:

And I am dumb to tell a weather's wind
How time has ticked a heaven round the stars.
And I am dumb to tell the lover's tomb
How at my sheet goes the same crooked worm.



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I welcome the new 2022 dark age of individual liberty. Let the insurrection begin as Orangemanbad enthusiast Joe Scarborough predicts.
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Greyparrot I'd guess you're in your late 50's. What is your life when you're going on autistic tirades on here about this shit?
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Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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Wait so what's the definition of a women? 
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Wait so what's the definition of a women? 
so far,  all I've made out for sure is that it had better have tits and pussy

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One who presents feminine and goes by she/her and is above 18 (Id say above 20)
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INSURRECTION specifically means 'violent uprising against government'
So you say.  The January 6th committee would like to disagree. 

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While unrelated to the topic at hand, I continue to be amazed by how much confusion there is over the word "insurrection." 

  • If mere "violence" engaged in against a government by a crowd is enough to constitute an insurrection, then the BLM riots across the country and wanton destruction of monuments throughout our fruited plains falls into the same category.   
  • If the standard is measured by how many cops were "injured" (a curiously vague term), then every single BLM riot was an insurrection and they should be prosecuted accordingly.  
Except, those aren't the criteria and that is readily understood by all thinking people.  Yet, a cohort of individuals seeks to redefine that word to make January 6th an insurrection while at the same time defining the BLM riots as being outside of it.  In the best case, it's partisan hackery.  In the worst case, people can't make sense of the world as it is.  

A part of me thinks it's just about power, where who has the power depends in part on who controls the narrative.  In that case, the narrative is that the midwestern LARP-ers who descended on Washington and were invited into the White House (as the video evidence amply reflects) are always and unquestionably domestic terrorists and BLM are no such thing.  

Or at least that's how the cards fall, today.  But tomorrow?  The world in which all left wing protesters were placed into the same bucket as communists and other enemies of the state is still in living memory.  This will come back around at the Democrats' expense when power changes hands, which is the obvious risk of why playing these sort of idiotic games is irrational.  

What goes around, comes around and comes back around again.  
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Just to be clear, my use of the word to describe the 2022 elections coming up is a maybe not so obvious satire of the redefinition of the term.
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what word?
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Oh, yeah well that was obviously how I'm sure Tim Pool meant it.    I'm surprised you like him, btw.  Actually not really.  I like him, and you and I are politically pretty close to one another.  

Tim Pool is a lot closer to the center than I am, though.  He's also a lot more willing to entertain leftist bullshit than I am, though.  I used to be as far to the libertarian left as you could go without being an outright anarchist.  Now, I'm about as far to the libertarian right as you can go without being Ayn Rand.  

I remember the first time I read Atlas Shrugged, when I was about 13.  I was so bored with it.  I thought it was stupidly long, tediously written and sexually bizzare.  Now, as an adult in Joe Biden's America, I read Atlas Shrugged as a lighthouse beautifully shining through a raging storm of governmental creation, warning against the dangers of a jagged, rocky shores into which our crash seems fated.
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 I read Atlas Shrugged as a lighthouse beautifully shining through a raging storm of governmental creation, warning against the dangers of a jagged, rocky shores into which our crash seems fated.
Thomas Sowell has written many books describing the problem of a few experts planning everything instead of the collective minds as experts always fall into the trap of unintended consequences where a group of many average minds collaborating are more likely to cover all bases. The history of the Democrat party is littered with well meaning policies crafted by experts with disasterous, unintended consequences. The only reason why the government can't learn from its policy mistakes is because government fundamentally serves itself and its interests first and the people second. This is why we have the massive denials of every policy gone bad and the constant blame shifting. It's a jarring daily reminder of the reason why society fundamentally can't prosper under a bloated self-serving government.
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He's also a lot more willing to entertain leftist bullshit than I am, though.
I don't mind it though. Even if it feels like a bad movie where you know the ending, it's very interesting to me when he would entertain the fringe ideas and go all the way down the rabbit hole with those ideas. (his phase when he advocated for abolishing the police for example)

You don't see a lot of that on restricted speech platforms.
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I remember the first time I read Atlas Shrugged, when I was about 13.  I was so bored with it.  I thought it was stupidly long, tediously written and sexually bizzare.  Now, as an adult in Joe Biden's America, I read Atlas Shrugged as a lighthouse beautifully shining through a raging storm of governmental creation, warning against the dangers of a jagged, rocky shores into which our crash seems fated.
We would have a lot in common if you believed in reason. Shame.