MMA Mafia Day Phase 1

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? I am literally just questioning out loud. I want other town input on my thoughts
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@Mharman
WHere did I criticize asking questions?
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Hi all. A few things. 

1. I am going to a buddies college this weekend. My phone time is going to be minimal
2. I will catch up tonight or tomorrow morning, I am extremely busy with school
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the whole post was presenting my reasons for why and why not to mass claim, the questions was when i asked for thoughts? Are you not criticizing that?
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I don't like how RM oust himself as a power role so early on, and I not the only one who thinks RM's theme analyzing so early in the game is a bit scummy
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Pie is right about RM's credibility. No one has credibility unless the mod confirms then in this game
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I am paraphrasing, but what is the point of the following statement

RM's actions are either scum motivated or from town motivation
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Why is RM claiming an investigative role DP1?
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mharman, you are going to have a hard time disproving my logic, when you are busy strawmanning it.
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@Incel-chud
I'd love to answer that, but I didn't make it so I don't know
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Pie is a gut town read
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while you are online, please give thoughts on the thread I made about ADOL.


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i meant it for mharman, sorry
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@RationalMadman
LOL that is not a compromise but if town wants to ruin a steamroll then so be it.
We have zero reason to trust you lol
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Right now I have a slight town on Pie and a FoS on RM, but RM is such a Wild Card that this read may be inaccurate.
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@Vader
That thread needs to stay up, so we can isolate the topic to one thread, before everyone realizes the truth and creates 10 simultaneous threads
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That's your character???
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@Incel-chud
I don't see how I am strawmanning this. I presented the sides of a debate on mass claiming and asked town for thoughts. I did this last game too.
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This is a topic for a PM conversation, not for mafia 
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@Mharman
It's because you ignored the valid concerns I had by chalking it up to

"He is scum reading me for presenting both sides of a debate" What I said is below

sure it is things like in post. The fluff, because scum would have a hard time being authentic


don't know what to think of RM. A mass claim could be him acting from town or mafia, so I'm still unsure of a mass claim for fears of scum team deciphering power roles and because of Earth is right, if he's town it's all a speculation of RM's.

This is what scum do a lot.  It is the he is town, but he is scum game. HIs actions are either scum or town motivated. Well, yes obviously

On the flip side, if we get a clear theme from it, the idea of steamrolling mafia is tantalizing. And pretty much all of the martial arts sound powerful, so maybe scum deciphering PR's isn't that concerning because they may not be able to.


clear fluff. lIke how deepak chopra writes

He was very cooperative as town last game too, even if he went a little overboard with it last game
Last game written twice, from a seemingly insincere attempt to look like you are generating activity naturally

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This is a topic for a PM conversation, not for mafia 
Okay, please PM me about your defense of a pedophile. I expected a ban, not censorship
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@Incel-chud
But that is literally all I did. Ask town for thoughts on mass claiming because I am unsure myself. Again, I did this last game.
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@Mharman
Okay, address my post or please stop talking about irrelevant things unrelated to it as some sort of defense to the points I mentioned
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@Incel-chud
What even is your point? That what I said is unnecessary fluff? If that's the case then you are wrong about that. I find it necessary for myself to get input from other townies.
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@Mharman
The following statement contributed to the game, and is not fluff?

don't know what to think of RM. A mass claim could be him acting from town or mafia,
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What about this statement that says "last game" twice in one sentence

He was very cooperative as town last game too, even if he went a little overboard with it last game
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For me it does help. The whole point was to let everyone know what I was thinking and gathering input from the rest of town. If I know what to do, I can be more helpful to town, so I am trying to ask the rest of town what I should do. It may be obvious the rest of town that "HIs actions are either scum or town motivated", but I want to showcase my own thoughts so the rest of town can let me know what they think.
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What about this statement that says "last game" twice in one sentence
Why is that even a problem for you?
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@Mharman
Why is that even a problem for you?
Again, you aren't doing anything wrong. Humans have certain psychological tells that are hard to hide. I am not criticizing your actions, so much as pointing out, that you are most likely scum based on things like that. It shows a level of trying to write words just to write words.

I often do something similar, where I write in a flow of consciusness, in fact I am doing it now. Just unfiltered thoughts pouring out. Nothing wrong with that. The issue here is that you are repeating sttements and fluffing, because scum are usually conscious of their activity level. You want to appear active, because you falsely believe that town is more active than what it is.

You also struggle, because scum can't really scum hunt, so they have to simulate, giving a shit about finding scum, and since lying is uncomfortable they often say stuff like . I think Ilike pie is scum because he is buddying up to people, but maybe he is town trying to buddy up so people feel more secure giving him information".

That is the exact type of analysis that comes from scum, trying to simulate actual scum hunting. It is unnatural. Again, you aren't doing anything wrong. You are a human, and imperfect. You have psychological tells, and you have been caught. Maybe the rest of town will see it, but often these are weak players who rarely are privy to the psychological element of the game and you will get off the hook.

I'm not really speculating with you. I know you are scum. I am unsure whether your partner is active or not, but I know if he is, I will also figure out who he is from your tells from interactions with others
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A little tip for you. I often as scum, simulate actual scum hunting by doctor or cop hunting. You don't really get many tells on me that way, because all my actions do indicate I am hunting.

If you want, you can sometimes do actual TP hunting and your behaviors will largely resemble town behaviors as well. It's hard to get into that head space, when you are in a game like this one, where TPs are unlikely though