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@Polytheist-Witch
Two organized religions are organized religions.
Sorry, you consider 'heathenism' and 'spiritualism' to be organised religions?
Theists: do you post an atheist spaces?
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@RationalMadman
You're not some smart guy shitting on clowns
Did I ever presume to be a "smart guy shitting on clowns"?
you're the clown
Clowns frighten me, so I figured it's about time my opponents shared my dread.
shitting on world-renowned intellectuals
It's unfortunate you buy into that.
right now and going as far to say it's not your opinion but a 'fact' that they're 'cartoons'.
Did I? Quote me.
In fact, when it comes to debating, you named the 2 best at it
By what metrics do you qualify them as "the best"?
out of the four and classified them as 'cartoons'.
Yes, you're repeating something I've clearly done.
Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett are no more debate specialists than Hitchens and Dawkins are.
I've never stated that. You are arguing against straw men.
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@RationalMadman
Yeah, it does?... Lol?Plenty if you mean debating it and actually engaging the atheists on the matter, yes, don't wanna name them all though.
Receipts?
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@Athias
Alright, you're clearly very confused about what you're stating/claiming and what reality itself is. Either you are playing mind games with me or I am forced to point out your own insanity, at this point I am reminded why I blocked you. You just type things and don't realise that sometimes what seems to make sense to you has zero impact at all on reality.
To prove this, can you explain why you named only 2 of the 4 I named and called them 'entertainers' and 'cartoons'?
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@RationalMadman
Okay I typed up a whole response and deleted it cuz it has nothing to do with the topic if you want I'll just start another one that's fine but they are organized. Organized and unpopular are two different things. Organized and small are two different things.
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@Athias
Well, you're one of them, if you wanted me to name one specifically. I've only ever seen you arbitrarily play some circular logic around 'a god' but never once seen you argue beyond that for your religious outlook or ethics etc.
The reason I personally avoid it for my own beliefs is I genuinely don't give a shit if others don't realise it, I may release a book when I'm an old or older-middle-age guy. Right now, where I am in life, publishing something with all my beliefs etc is just not worth the drama and backlash it could get, I'd rather do it when I am too old to give a fuck.
I would also say that my view of god is rather devoid of morality. I think God is amoral, sociopathically acting on whims, so there's very little need or moral urgency for me to convert others as there is no 'heaven vs hell' dynamic though realising what I realised did make my own life less of a confusing hell regarding my own existence and certain life decisions where ethics came into it.
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@Polytheist-Witch
To me, organised religions are religions that fundamentally run on keeping the converted inside the religion by peer pressure, converting others (this varies per religion and sect in how fervently it's done) and finally, having certain authorities and scriptures that define the religion in an official sense.
If your religion has only the core scripture and thesis but not the other elements, I (and many) consider it a non-organised theological outlook. Taoism comes under that as do any Pagan views I hold on the side of it.
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@RationalMadman
Alright, you're clearly very confused about what you're stating/claiming and what reality itself is.
You're gaslighting--figuratively.
Either you are playing mind games with me or I am forced to point out your own insanity
False dichotomy.
at this point I am reminded why I blocked you.
You block everyone; your standards aren't much to speak of.
You just type things and don't realise that sometimes what seems to make sense to you has zero impact at all on reality.
Please inform me on what makes sense to me. That's realistic.
To prove this, can you explain why you named only 2 of the 4 I named and called them 'entertainers' and 'cartoons'?
I suppose there's something to be said by the fact that I didn't acknowledge the other two. Sam Harris is quite logical and adherent to the principles of logic, despite my disagreeing with his conclusions. Daniel Dennett, I don't watch much of, or have read much of his material, and therefore it would be irresponsible to render a characterization on someone whose body of work about which I know little. Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens on the other hand, I know a bit more, and enough to call them "cartoons."
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@RationalMadman
Well, you're one of them,
No, I'm not.
I've only ever seen you arbitrarily play some circular logic
Do you know what "circular logic" is?
around 'a god'
Gods. I've made it very clear that I believe all gods exist.
but never once seen you argue beyond that for your religious outlook or ethics etc.
I've mentioned quite a few times that I'm not religious. And therefore, I do not sustain ethics that are qualified by religion.
The reason I personally avoid it for my own beliefs is I genuinely don't give a shit if others don't realise it, I may release a book when I'm an old or older-middle-age guy.
Then you're undermining your own point. You don't avoid the discussions because you're "wisely afraid." You just "don't give a shit."
Your receipts aren't sufficient.
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@Athias
I literally said I'm part of the minority earlier on so idk what receipt you want. That said, I don't consider myself fully Theistic, I'm more deistic (my god doesn't care, not just me).
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@Athias
Alright, you're clearly very confused about what you're stating/claiming and what reality itself is.You're gaslighting--figuratively.
and so are you, figuratively. All you do is twist my words and say nonsense like 'receipt'.
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@Athias
at this point I am reminded why I blocked you.You block everyone; your standards aren't much to speak of.
Except I don't, it's just those that I block certainly include those that can be whiny and obnoxious which is often the very reason I blocked them. Consequently, they make it seem like far more of an issue than it is and wider spread than it is as they're the loudest.
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@RationalMadman
I literally said I'm part of the minority earlier on so idk what receipt you want.
Yes, you do. Because you were capable enough to respond to the directive when you alleged I was one of the theists. And I suspect that now that it's not panning out, you're claiming ignorance. So, I'll make it clear: please provide references to the theists here who you claim are "wisely afraid" to broach the subject of theism, organized religion, and/or any subject on the existence of God or gods.
Except I don't, it's just those that I block certainly include those that can be whiny and obnoxious which is often the very reason I blocked them.
Except, you do... I don't deny that there have been those who've been obnoxious to you. However this reputation of yours hasn't persisted because of a few mean individuals. You have blocked members because you've disagreed with them on subjects, absent of ad hominem arguments (from them at least.) You do this to avoid the rigor of extending premises to their logical conclusions, because said conclusions might upset you. If you're convinced that "it's just them," then I suppose I'm just beating a dead horse.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Atheism is a position relevant to religion. It is fitting for atheists to post in a religious forum. Seeking to disqualify atheists from a religious discussion is akin to disallowing religious adherents of a particular sect from the forum.
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@SkepticalOne
I didn't say they couldn't post in the forum that was not what was posted that was not the question that was posed you people do this f****** s*** on purpose, which is why I don't bother either.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Well, that seems over the top. Especially since OP is literally looking for ways to segregate the forum so as not to have to interact with atheists....
Illiterate idiots.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Illiterate idiots.
You've got to watch out for those illiterate idiots that can read and write and (somehow) string together a coherent response. ;-p
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@SkepticalOne
Yeah only one single person understood the question and answered it. And that one was the only other theist to post. So illiterate idiots applies.
Dear Poly.
Theists: do you post an atheist spaces?
Speaking of illiteracy.
What the f**k does the question mean.
And I only said f**k, because you said f****** s***.
What's sauce for G****, is sauce for the G***** as it were.
Love Zed.
I am indifferent to anyone who thinks they know something is absolute fact but cant prove anything. I can neither prove nor disprove the existence of any god like entity. So no I don't post anything. I may have in the past, but I have come to the belief that if there was a god like entity all it did was create and does not control outcome. My logic doesn't allow my to think everything in the universe and all the complexity is just some freak 1 in a googolplex to the tenth power random anomaly with no purpose. Who am I to tell anyone anything about anything, All I can do is express the things that annoy me and ideas that I think are bad based on history and personal experience. No one gives a shit ultimately what I think about anything or how I feel about anything. I just stay away from people hell bent on dragging people down so they can feel better about themselves and their meaningless, pointless, unfulfilling existence. There are no shortage of atheists and theists who do this.
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@sadolite
Still nothing to do with the fucking topic.
@RationalMadman,
If an atheist showed up to Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennet (in their prime) for a debate, they'd get bodied so hard they wouldn't know what they'd walked into.
- LMAO! They all morons with zero grounding in Logic & Philosophy, or Science for that matter.
You can hate the player but at least appreciate their skill at the game.
- They have skill alright, in bullshitting & bullying people dumber than they are. Have you ever seen these bozos debating anyone of any credible worth? No.
The reason why Theists stay away from science and atheistic/secular forums is that they get murked when they try to debate.
- Is that so...? Care to have a debate about Science then? Nobody here except me knows jack schitt about serious sciences, at least as far as I've seen. Go home please!
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@Polytheist-Witch
I answered the OP, not problem you don't like the answer.
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@Yassine
Nobody here except me knows jack schitt about serious sciences, at least as far as I've seen. Go home please!
I think you could just have posted this, the rest seemed like they could be true and weren't just your delusions of grandeur.
As for you thinking they don't have good reasoning etc. it's a baseless opinion you hold based on as little explanation as you gave to back it up (i.e. nothing at all)
I think you could just have posted this, the rest seemed like they could be true and weren't just your delusions of grandeur.
- Why does everything have to be about me? – The value is in the arguments one presents, not the scorns of delusion & emotional outbursts.
As for you thinking they don't have good reasoning etc. it's a baseless opinion you hold based on as little explanation as you gave to back it up (i.e. nothing at all)
- Have you studied Philosophy & Logic? I have. I can literally point out 20 logical fallacies per minute every time Dawkins opens his mouth. The best among the bunch is Hitchens, he's witty, which isn't much of anything in serious debate. Harris is a pathological liar, & thinks he is smarter for whatever reason. To be honest, I've never seen Dennet in a debate, so I can't judge. – You know who are actually good atheist apologists? Try Graham Oppy, he is all arguments & no nonsense rhetoric. He gets my respect. Why do you care about these though, aren't you Taoist???
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@Yassine
#53
Wouldn't call that a valuable argument.
So the educated veil slips, and surprise surprise, you despise clever "white" atheists.
Tell me something new.
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@RationalMadman
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Heathenism and Spiritualism
As I said, you're a 'super special' Theist yourself, so I'm not sure why you pool yourself in with what the type who want to spar with atheists in debate are (the Abrahamic religions specifically but also other established organised religions perhaps)."
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Being super special, I post everywhere.
I try to get believers to change to our real Gods, people, and I try to get atheists off their rumps and pushing their better morals against believers.
The bright need to help the dim see.
Atheists have to up their social duty trait.
Regards
DL
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Good luck with that.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Luck has little to nothing to do with duty or success in finding decent minds.
Regards
DL