Theory of political leanings

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@zedvictor4
That's because your post was seems nonsensical to me. I will try to make sense of it though.

Seems like a disingenuously constructed survey....(One either agrees or disagrees)
IT was constructed by psychologists merely trying to determine tolerance of ambiguity.

Whereby, honest answers should render everyone similar. 


Would you believe anyone if they said that they had scored 6/11?
That would be odd if everyone had the same exact tolerance for ambiguity

I think that a genuine score of 6/11  would be more indictive of mental state, than of political leaning. ( A mental state comparative to a socially recognised norm)

It would be. The test was not meant to measure political leanings. I am looking for a trend , and so far it seems to hold true

A genuine 6/11 would probably live in the backwoods with a shed full of guns for company, and in reality would be a very paranoid 36.

It is impossible to score a 6/11 on this test


And by the way....I'm an on the fence non-voter. Still prepared to put my trust in majority British thinking.
As you should be

So what would you expect me to score?
Probably on the lower end of the scale. Even lower than normal liberals. 


N.B. Question 6 is somewhat misleading......Hence 6/11.
There is no such thing as misleading questions. Only misleading answers


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@Incel-chud
So the test was deliberately ambiguous.

Yep, I think I saw through that straight away.


So what makes you label me as liberal?

Or was this just a sort of cheap throw away pseudo jibe?


And I would suggest that my post seemed nonsensical, because you made a determined effort to find it nonsensical, rather than a determined effort to evaluate it.


And if the test hadn't been disingenuously ambiguous, there would have been only two genuine responses to the questions,

Ergo, top score 12,  lowest score 6.....And I would have scored 12 like most other honest participants.

And nut jobs would have deliberately scored 6 in a futile attempt to disguise their paranoia.


Well.....I suppose that Psychologists have to justify their salaries somehow.


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@zedvictor4
So what makes you label me as liberal?
I don't.  The test measures tolerance of ambiguity. I think liberals will score lower in general. However if you have a mental instability.  The mental instability would effect the test more than political leanings if it related to things dealing with ambiguity. A person with a disorder that causes them to engage in word salad, will certainly be fine with ambiguity 

So the test was deliberately ambiguous.

Not at all. It tests for ambiguity.

Ergo, top score 12,  lowest score 6.....And I would have scored 12 like most other honest participants.
Each question has a possible score from 1 to 6, leaving rooms for any score ranging from 6 to 36. 

12 would not be the top score. 


And nut jobs would have deliberately scored 6 in a futile attempt to disguise their paranoia.

That's incorrect. I am anparanoid person and told you mys score was high
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1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
certainty is a childish illusion

2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
every event is a complex orchestra

3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
overconfidence is more dangerous than a best guess

  • 4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
  • overconfidence is more dangerous than a best guess

    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
    perfect communication is impossible

    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    most people think they believe this, but in reality, they barricade themselves
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    @Incel-chud
    I think liberals will score lower in general.
    nope

    in the same way

    dog people

    and cat people

    are evenly distributed between the "left" and "right"
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    @3RU7AL
    It is a 1 to 6 scoring. 

    nope

    in the same way

    dog people

    and cat people

    are evenly distributed between the "left" and "right"

    I doubt they are evenly distributed. But with ambiguity, we do see evidence that dictators in non democratic regines tend to have an intolerance of  ambiguity. 


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    @Incel-chud
    It is a 1 to 6 scoring. 
    your methodology appears inadequate
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    @3RU7AL
    D0 you think about what you say? 

    It measures tolerance of ambiguity. I think it does about as well as possible for a short survey, particularly since a teamed of trained psychologists developed the test. 
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    @3RU7AL
    D0 you think about what you say? 

    It measures tolerance of ambiguity. I think it does about as well as possible for a short survey, particularly since a teamed of trained psychologists developed the test. 
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    @Incel-chud
    I doubt they are evenly distributed. But with ambiguity, we do see evidence that dictators in non democratic regines tend to have an intolerance of  ambiguity. 

    When it comes to pet ownership, Democrats and Republicans can agree on one thing…and that’s dogs. 

    Dog owners are just as likely to come from either side of the political spectrum. 

    Cats, on the other hand, are slightly more likely to be found in Democratic homes. [**]
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    @Incel-chud
    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    certainty is a childish illusion
    1.........strongly disagree
    2....moderately disagree
    3...........slightly disagree
    4................slightly agree
    5.........moderately agree
    6..............strongly agree

    NONE OF THE ABOVE
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    particularly since a teamed of trained psychologists developed the test.
    citation please
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    @3RU7AL
    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    certainty is a childish illusion
    1.........strongly disagree
    2....moderately disagree
    3...........slightly disagree
    4................slightly agree
    5.........moderately agree
    6..............strongly agree

    NONE OF THE ABOVE

    Incorrect. Here is your answer

    certainty is a childish illusion
    This answer implies that in the middle of an uncertain situation, you would be comfortable. That is unless you find every situation uncomfortable, because they are all uncertain. 

    I'd also expect you to use some common sense here. If you are taking an extreme view because you can't possibly have 100% certainty, than clearly anyone using common sense and who has a reasonable IQ level, will know to interpret it to mean

    In situations with 70% certainty of knowing the results vs situations where you have 10% certainty, are you significantly more likely to experience anxiety. 

    This isn't a difficult concept brutal. If you struggle with logic, than you should really work on it, since this site is one where we debate to see who uses logic better. 
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    @3RU7AL
    Here is the citation, but seriously study logic. It shouldn't be hard for somebody with an average level of intelligence to see how these questions relate to measuring ambiguity. 

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    I removed all the questions that related to ambiguity, and placed them in this thread. I also removed the questions that check for dishonesty
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    @Incel-chud
    That is unless you find every situation uncomfortable, because they are all uncertain. 
    you're forgetting that people often enjoy mystery and puzzle solving
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    @Incel-chud
    Here is the citation, but seriously study logic. It shouldn't be hard for somebody with an average level of intelligence to see how these questions relate to measuring ambiguity. 
    100% INTP
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    @Incel-chud
    I'd also expect you to use some common sense here.
    I'd also expect you to use some common sense here.
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    @3RU7AL
    you're forgetting that people often enjoy mystery and puzzle solving
    They would score themselves a 1. 


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    @Incel-chud
    you're forgetting that people often enjoy mystery and puzzle solving
    They would score themselves a 1. 
    but perhaps not in all situations
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    @3RU7AL
    but perhaps not in all situations
    Your point is? That the person would be too stupid to know the test is referencing how your feelings would be in general? 
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    @Incel-chud
    Your point is? That the person would be too stupid to know the test is referencing how your feelings would be in general?
    can you be slightly more specific ?
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    @3RU7AL
    You have been struggling with abstract and conceptual thinking for a while. I first spotted it when you posted about an essay your teacher wanted you to do, but you struggled with it understanding the instructions. It's an essay title that is clear to most people, and I spent a lot of time breaking down what was expected to you, and you still struggled to grasp it. 

    All I know is the lack of abstract reasoning on your part, means that a lot of stuff will go over your head. A lot of stuff, that would just not go over anybody else's head. 

    I think the ability to think abstractly is genetic. A lot like IQ. I'm not sure me breaking g that down will help you. I can tell you. I will spend a few hours researching how to improve abstract reasoning, and get back to you, if I find anything.  However, I think it's a lost cause . 
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    @Incel-chud
    thanks

    for example,

    one might enjoy some predictability in their daily routine

    and still enjoy mystery and puzzle solving in some activities

    how would you "generalize" this type of person ?

    would you label them a "1" or a "6" ?
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    @3RU7AL
    We have to look at whether unexpected things give them a high level of anxiety or low level of anxiety. This is not about enjoying novel things or whether you like routine or not. 

    It is about your tolerance to ambiguity. You can have low tolerance and hate routine and love novel things. It's not about those things. 

    Let's say you are given a project at work. It is your first day, working at a brewery. The boss says to you, go out and get me 3 contracts to deliver beer to places that serve beer.

    Is that a scenario you would find anxiety producing, or would you just be indifferent or happy about the situation?
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    @Incel-chud
    Is that a scenario you would find anxiety producing, or would you just be indifferent or happy about the situation?
    i think most people would agree that it would be viewed initially as an exhilarating challenge, and as long as some acceptable progress is made in the expected time period, it would be remembered as a positive experience
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    @3RU7AL
    i think most people would agree that it would be viewed initially as an exhilarating challenge,
    Then you would score it a one on the questionnaire. 
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    @Incel-chud
    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    1.........strongly disagree

    2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
    1.........strongly disagree

    3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
    1.........strongly disagree

  • 4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
  • 1.........strongly disagree

    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
    1.........strongly disagree

    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    1.........strongly disagree

    please in a few words tell me your political leanings, and give me your total score of the above chart.  I am tainting my theory, by mentioning this, but I feel like conservatives on the site will generally have higher scores on these  answers.
    I scored 6, and come pretty close to being very anti-MANDATORY-vaxx
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    @Incel-chud

    I inverted the test and gave things to weight against.
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    @3RU7AL
    dog people

    and cat people

    are evenly distributed between the "left" and "right"


    Incorrect