Theory of political leanings

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I have a theory about some political leanings of the general population. Please answer the following questions using the key below

1.........strongly disagree
2....moderately disagree
3...........slightly disagree
4................slightly agree
5.........moderately agree
6..............strongly agree

1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
  • 4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
    • 5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.

    please in a few words tell me your political leanings, and give me your total score of the above chart.  I am tainting my theory, by mentioning this, but I feel like conservatives on the site will generally have higher scores on these  answers.

    I scored 23, and come pretty close to being a Paleoconservative

    I will tell you what it tests for later, assuming it isn't obvious by the types of questions asked

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    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    5

    2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
    6

    3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
    5

    4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
    4

    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
    6

    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    5

    31 is my total.

    I'd say I'm a progressive who is left wing. I'd say I am firmly not a Socialist but am a Social Democrat overall in terms of the 'group' I politically adhere to that is mainstream. In some ways I deviate but I'd say I'm a Progressive first and Social Democrat second but these are just semantics as there's such huge overlap between the two. I believe 'progressive' is a better term, as is 'social democrat'; 'liberal' is a term I can also go by but generally not what I default to in a conversation.



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    @Incel-chud
    Seems like a disingenuously constructed survey....(One either agrees or disagrees)

    Whereby, honest answers should render everyone similar. 

    Would you believe anyone if they said that they had scored 6/11?

    I think that a genuine score of 6/11  would be more indictive of mental state, than of political leaning. ( A mental state comparative to a socially recognised norm)

    A genuine 6/11 would probably live in the backwoods with a shed full of guns for company, and in reality would be a very paranoid 36.



    And by the way....I'm an on the fence non-voter. Still prepared to put my trust in majority British thinking.

    So what would you expect me to score?


    N.B. Question 6 is somewhat misleading......Hence 6/11.


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    It's out of 35 actually.
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    Sorry no, it's out of 36.
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    @Incel-chud
    I would like to not disclose my political persuasion. I’m not sure if this is a psyop. 

    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    2

    Sometimes I let Jesus take the wheel. 

    2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
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    Why sit around worrying about things that happened in the passed? You have no control over them.

    3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
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    There’s always something to be mad about. 

    4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
    6

    When a cop beats up a criminal, he deserves it. 

    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.’
    3

    That’s why I always carry. 

    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    6

    But don’t you tell me my wife has covid.


    Score is 22 damn it. 
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    Is this an autism test?

    I got a 34. More or less a paleoconservative 
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    It's  a test on tolerance of ambiguity. 
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    Actually, I have thought hard about a question and Idk if my answer is honest or if it's a 4 or even a 3 instead.

    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    5

    I gave a 5 because I work like this; if it's bad news that I can't do shit about, I tend to be okay staying uncertain whereas if it's bad news I can still change I become very tolerant of whatever suffering comes with the news. I honestly don't know if that's a 4 or a 5 and it's often enough that I'd be willing to put 3.

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    Intolerance of ambiguity should show a bigger leaning towards authoritarianism. 
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    @Incel-chud
    I understand why you'd think that and probably that will be a somewhat present correlation (I get where you're coming from) but I know hardline anarchists and libertarians who are gonna score large as well.

    I think you're wrong because 'freedom' requires authoritarianism to protect it in left-wing theory and alternatively right-wing libertarians can be very sure of their stance and prefer bad news over uncertainty. 

    I think that actually your question 4 was the one where autoritarians will score much higher and liberals/libertarians will score much lower.

    What were your answers?
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     5 on everything except number 6 which was like 3 
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    I fucked up and meant to make a 5 point not 6 point scale, so I guess I would have scored 33
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    You are then proof of what I said:

    I understand why you'd think that and probably that will be a somewhat present correlation (I get where you're coming from) but I know hardline anarchists and libertarians who are gonna score large as well.

    I think you're wrong because 'freedom' requires authoritarianism to protect it in left-wing theory and alternatively right-wing libertarians can be very sure of their stance and prefer bad news over uncertainty. 
    Although if you scored full 6 on question 4, you're definitely authoritarian (even 5 is authoritarian) because you are saying that your own judgement of most social situations is instantly correct/rigid.
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     because you are saying that your own judgement of most social situations is instantly correct/rigid.
    Not really. It's just conducive to black and white thinking and being reliant on theories, because of an intolerance of ambiguity.  Also I am wrong. It wasn't question 6vI scored low on, but question 4
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    This is interesting, my scores are exactly the same as Reece101 on every question for a total of 22.
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    My score is not 23 like it says in op. That is typo. It is about 33
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    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain
    5
    2. I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life
    5
    3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.
    very upset about confusion over any import issue? 1
    4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.
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    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.
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    6. I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.
    6

    please in a few words tell me your political leanings

    American Liberal

    and give me your total score of the above chart. 

    21

    I am tainting my theory, by mentioning this, but I feel like conservatives on the site will generally have higher scores on these  answers.

    Not much of a theory.  I accept as truism that conservatives would sooner be resolved than accurate or consistent. I'm not sure I'd call anybody on this site Conservative in the political sense.

    I scored 23, and come pretty close to being a Paleoconservative

    You are not a Conservative as that word is defined in any dictionary.  I would characterize your political outlook as anarchist-in-ignorance.  You are anti-establishment but your motivations are personal, not political or ideological or even thoughtful.  I'd call that classic Trumpism.

    On a 30 point scale between 6and 36 with 21 being the median I rate 21 and call myself Liberal, you rate 23 and call your Paleoconservative

    I will tell you what it tests for later, assuming it isn't obvious by the types of questions asked

    obv

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    You are anti-establishment but your motivations are personal, not political
    Maybe, I have seen the establishment hurt a lot of people. I am the last of my concerns. I have seen them harm a ton of children. Innocent children. Not stuff I watched on Waco or things like that where they literally burned kids alive, but in person up close and personal, I have seen them hurt children. 

    The fact you want to increase the size and scope of an institution that does that is disgusting.  
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    , I have seen the establishment hurt a lot of people. 
    But it is an absolute fact that the lack of establishment hurts far more.  You're going back 30 years to find an example but without democratic institutions of law enforcement and civil justice you can find people getting hurt every 30 minutes- Syria, Somalia, Myanmar. Libya, Afghanistan, CAR, etc.  You think so concretely that all you need is one 30 year old example to toss out the best example of government in human history rather than comparing results with any other form of government or lack thereof- "sooner be resolved than accurate" as I said of conservative thinking.
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    Syria, Somalia, Myanmar. Libya, Afghanistan, CAR
    All areas that rank low on the economic freedom index. An index that ranks countries based on the amount of government over reach is present. 


    You're going back 30 years to find an example
    I guess if we wait long enough murdering children becomes okay. There was a drone strike on civilians that was all over the news a few months ago. 

    A couple of years ago social services became aware of a boy named Gabriel Gonzalez being abused and ignored it, allowing his parents to kill him. The same agency also has a record of taking children from parents, in cases where it shouldn't have happened, and placing them in abusive environments.

    We have a prison system where too many poor people are locked up for minor drug infractions and become unable to make above minimum wage due to their record. This causes them to be put in situations where it is highly tempting to do illegal things, to make ends meet. When this is done they go to prison and they are not rehabilitated, instead they build networks of underworld Contact's and their loss of skill from prison time makes a life of crime more likely. This also leaves a lot of fatherless homes and kids growing up in terrible environments, conducive to poverty and creating even more criminals with no life. 

    I Don't need to go back to show the government being evil. I just picked the most disgusting example I could think of.

    rather than comparing results with any other form of government or lack thereof
    Being the best in a world that is shit, is not good enough.  I don't want the best. I want an end to suffering and injustice.

    sooner be resolved than accurate" as I said of conservative thinking
    This is stupid. There is a wide variety of conservative thought and my opinions only reflect me. Not many if any have my style of thinking, and I know liberals who think along similar lines to me in terms of what you choose to criticize about my thought process. In fact, I was a liberal with similar thoughts as to what you choose to insult. 

    When George Bush was in office, I was a liberal. I voted for John Kerry, I also voted for Obama his first election. Then I voted McCain and Trump. So that is 8 years of voting liberal, followed by 12 years of voting conservative.  

    2 liberal candidates and 2 conservative ones. 


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    All areas that rank low on the economic freedom index. An index that ranks countries based on the amount of government over reach is present. 
    My point proved.  The US is ranked 6th on that index and the first country with a population greater than Ohio.  The greatest free nation on Earth and you give it zero credit.

    I guess if we wait long enough murdering children becomes okay.
    Firstly  name a state that does not murder children and since you will fail at that endeavor you must rank states by how many children it kills.  Once your collect that data it will be obvious to you that Liberal democracies murder far fewer children than any other from of govt.

    I Don't need to go back to show the government being evil. I just picked the most disgusting example I could think of.
    But anecdote is rarely informative.  Don't you know how to do a comparative analysis?

    Being the best in a world that is shit, is not good enough. 
    What a laughably useless outlook.  Shit compared to what other world, I wonder?  Here we are enjoying the greatest freedom and prosperity in the history of all known life in the universe and you'd happily burn it all to the ground because you think you can do better.  I hope you forgive all known life in the universe if we are skeptical of your talents.

    Not many if any have my style of thinking,
    Because they died young of self-immolation, I suppose.

    2 liberal candidates and 2 conservative ones. 
    Both Kerry and Obama made an effort to distance themselves from the label of Liberalism when running for national office.  I think an argument can be made that McCain was a social conservative but to call Trump a conservative is just plain ignorant.  There is no overlap between conservative principles and Trump's principles (which can be summed up in one word as : Trump).

    That said, Liberalism and Conservativism are political philosophies that seldom align perfectly with the binary choice between political parties in an American national election.  Voting for Kerry did not make you a liberal.  Demonstrating an understanding and practice of Liberal principles is what makes you a liberal.  Is ay again- you are no Liberal or Conservative by the common understanding of either of those philosophies.  The fact that you can vote for Obama and Trump both demonstrates how little such votes represent some kind of consistent philosophy.



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    1.I don't like situations that are uncertain

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    2.I feel uncomfortable when I don't understand the reason why an event occurred in my life

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    3.When I am confused about an important issue, I feel very upset.

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    4.In most social conflicts, I can easily see which side is right and which is wrong.

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    5.I feel uncomfortable when someone's meaning or intention is unclear to me.

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    6.I'd rather know bad news than stay in a state of uncertainty.

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    28. I guess a paleocon


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    I have seen them harm a ton of children. Innocent children. Not stuff I watched on Waco or things like that where they literally burned kids alive, but in person up close and personal, I have seen them hurt children. 
    I think a lot about the little kids being forced to wear a mask eight hours a day. Maybe I'm just built differently but I know that the day in day out resentment and anger at having to wear it for years on end would have scarred me for life

    Small potatoes compared to the children murdered in drone strikes and such but the way that people are just so casual about it, like its normal or healthy for kids to not see faces or to breath properly
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    I think we'll see an increase in sociopathic behavior because of the mask wearing, and school closings result in higher incidences of child abuse. So I do feel bad for this next generation 
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    It will be super interesting to see how the children who grew up in the forever Covid environment react when they meet kids from Texas or Florida who didn’t have that experience at all 
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    I will be looking at psychological studies of those 2 states and everybody else. I can't wait for liberals to cope by saying

    "Correlation not causation bro" 
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    It will be super interesting to see how the children who grew up in the forever Covid environment react when they meet kids from Texas or Florida who didn’t have that experience at all 

    That, and many of these kids will have a crippling fear of germs. Fears are generally learned, and the massive panic at a disease with a small death rate will probably impact them greatly.
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    It's the age of virus. They can smell fear.
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    You didn't reply Incy.