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@ILikePie5
Also, General Miley didn't register as a Chinese agent. Neither did Swalwell.
They should all get the Flynn treatment when 2022 flips red.
trump has committed no serious crimes
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@Greyparrot
Also, General Miley didn't register as a Chinese agent. Neither did Swalwell.They should all get the Flynn treatment when 2022 flips red.
Yup and Biden should get the Trump treatment
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@n8nrgim
Again, you continue to refer to his mental state as the thing that is holding you back from accepting his guilt but I have explained at least twice already why this argument is a non sequitor. Do you have any response to it, or are you just going to keep pretending I never explained it?
Again, even accepting as our premise that Trump believes he won the state of Georgia changes nothing, he is still guilty of committing election fraud. The specific law I cited was providing a false number. The number Trump attempted to coerce the Secretary of State to “recalculate” to was 11,780 more votes than he had. That is a false number. Trump had no basis for it other than because it would have given him the victory.
This isn’t just some technicality. This is literally what the law was designed to stop from happening. Our elections are not subject to the ego driven intuitions of the candidates. They’re subject to the actual counting of actual votes to determine who actually won. We have our processes in place for a reason, Trump’s attempt to coerce the GA Sec of State into providing a false number contradicts the very reason why we have election laws.
This argument reminds me of the saying “framing a guilty man”, which is of course a crime and it’s a crime for good reason. It doesn’t matter what you believe the outcome should be. The outcome is determined by our systems, that’s why we have laws protecting them.
Also, General Miley didn't register as a Chinese agent.
It should not be surprising that when we separate the men from the boys GP and Pie come off as aborted fetuses.
Just some of the important differences between the truth and GP's fucking deliberately deceptive false equivalencies are:
- The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staffs was acting in his official capacity when he advised his Chinese counterparts that the rumors of a first strike plan were false.
- Unlike Flynn, Milley was acting in America's interests, not Putin's
- Unlike Flynn, Milley was ordered to make the calls by his boss Mark Esper
- Unlike Flynn, Milley made the calls in a room full of advisors and staff
- Unlike Flynn, Milley had not received millions of dollars in illegal bribes before making the calls
- Unlike Flynn, Milley's call was properly recorded and archived for government use
- Unlike Flynn, Milley never had to lie to law enforcement many, many times
- Unlike Flynn, Milley never committed treason
Neither did Swalwell.
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell did not know that the lady who held a fundraiser for him and had her picture taken with him was a spy
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell denounced the spy as soon as he was advised by US Intelligence
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell instantly reported everything he knew about her to the govt
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell never covered up the fact that a spy had done some fundraising
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell never knowingly gave that spy a job or money
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell never lied to law enforcement about her activities
- Unlike Trump, Swalwell never protected that spy from investigation and prosecution
See the difference? The difference is treason vs. patriotism. Unsurprising that GP can't tell that difference.
They should all get the Flynn treatment
Trump gave a Russian spy, Flynn, full unrestricted access to America's deepest State secrets and crashed whole branches of government to make sure that Russian spy got away with it. Why would any loyal American want anybody to spy on America and get away with it, which is what the Flynn treatment is, I suppose?
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@oromagi
See the difference? The difference is treason vs. patriotism. Unsurprising that GP can't tell that difference.
The guy who pushed an old lady to the ground for fun and the guy who pushed an old lady to the ground to get her out of the way of an oncoming bus are the same, because they both pushed an old lady to the ground.
Right wing logic.
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@ILikePie5
Yup and Biden should get the Trump treatment
Yes, can't wait for the witch hunts and the Kabuki interpretations of intent and motive of political opponents!
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@oromagi
It should not be surprising that when we separate the men from the boys GP and Pie come off as aborted fetuses.
And you’re psychic. Got it
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@n8nrgmi
Saw this clip and thought of our conversation. I didn’t devote much time responding to your point about Trump’s intent because that wasn’t really the point, but that argument doesn’t work either. Chris Hayes does a good job of explaining why here: