on question for religious people

"That is a low IQ take, but it's your choice. "

It is the moral choice, so end in hell with you immoral genocidal prick of a God.

Moral men will pity you for being so morally low and stupid.

Regards

DL

Which system of morality system do you use?

Kantianism

Humanism

Egoism?

Consequentialism?

I just want to know how comfortable you made yourself with philosophy? Or are you just completely uneducated on morality and have no ideal what any of those things I listed are?

More importantly, how were those ethical systems arrived at? 

I have enjoyed listening to many of his works.

I like intelligent apologists for my side.

It is too bad that there are no decent religious apologists about these days.

I used to learn the odd thing from Christian apologists  but atheists are the better source today, --- strangely.

I guess it is all about knowing your enemy.

Regards

DL

There's education,

And then there's unnecessary data transfer.

"More importantly, how were those ethical systems arrived at?"

By argument, before the stupidity of supernatural belief put Christianity in the Dark Ages, where those fools remain.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.
 
https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2
 
Further.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
 
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."
 
Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.
 
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."
 
Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
 
This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D
 

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There is also indoctrination into immoral religions, that force parents to hate their gay or female children.

Regards

DL.

You really should change your name. You don't know what gnoaticism is. 

There is indoctrination into everything.

It's a fact of ongoing data transfer, relative to the evolved ability to acquire store and utilise data,

And therefore a fact of life.

And one persons indoctrinated morality, is another persons indoctrinated immorality.

Such is human social development at this moment in Earth time.

And what will happen in the next two thousand years, is what will happen.

And might worry us for a limited period.

You don't know what Christian Gnosticism is.

Thanks for a link that even with it's basic knowledge of gbosticism, proves that Christian gnostic doesn't know what he's talking about. 

"There is indoctrination into everything."

Yes, but I dislike how so many are indoctrinated by religions into homophobia and misogyny and the notion that a genocidal God is somehow a good God.

Regards

DL

You must be well read.

Where do I differ with the usual Gnostic Christian?

Regards

DL

Where have I erred?

Regards

DL

I had a dream once that told me it was a sin to reveal information to the uninitiated.  

IOW, you were talking out of your large ass.

Get your dad. I like to speak to adults.

Regards

DL

I read English.

Try writing it, if you want to be understood, stupid.

Regards

DL 

You literally used acronyms in your last 2 posts to me. DL here and  and IOT in your previous one to me. Those acronyms whatever the fuck they mean are way less common than the BTFO and LOL ones I used. 

It's funny that when I use acronyms to mock you, it goes over your tiny little brain. 

GOD is a concept relative to a concept.

And so therefore can be conceptually genocidal or not, relative to a particular data construct.

And if one cherry picks extreme bits of human society, one will find stuff contrary to our own conditioning, that we can classify as unlikeable.

And for sure, Middle Eastern storytellers have got a lot to answer for.

Not a lot we can do, other than teach our own kids the facts of the matter.

Indeed.

Protection begins at home.

It also comes from the state that preaches for equality, while the G D religions are preaching for homophobia and misogyny.

Good luck continuing letting that happen in your neighborhoods.

You mentioned conditioning, and I wonder about what it is in our freedom loving Western conditioning that has Christians and Muslims idolize a genocidal God.

They like St. Hitler.

Regards

DL

You haven't

Haven't what?

Are we discussing something?

Regards

DL

My response was to this question you asked me.

wow you really got me there!

Mine was to your inaccurate statement.

At least you recognize your error.

Regards

DL

How about you learn some English before trying this whole debate thing. 

How about you learn some English before trying this whole debate thing?

you are clueless

At least you got the spelling right that time. 

Genocide is the dark side of the species.

And as I stated, A GOD is a concept.......In the head of the species.

Therefore A GOD can be good, bad or indifferent, relative to what we are led to believe.

Sadly, humanity as a whole, is not a cohesive unit.....So collective data, varies between social sub-groups.

Such is the price of Earthbound intelligence.

Though the UNIVERSE is far greater than an organically coated speck of cosmic dust.

Whether or not material evolution, including species evolution, extending to the evolution of ALTERNATIVE INTELLIGENCE, has any greater significance beyond the constraints of our solar system is yet to be confirmed.

So I will continue to bow in deference to our one true GOD and giver of life....THE SUN.

But, disrespect that which the SUN gives......And it will be capable of genocide on a scale, before unseen.

And I doubt that there is ANOTHER FLOATY ABOUT BLOKE GOD with an off button.

You know.....The one in the story books with the BIG BEARD.....Likes to fuck virgins.....And then Piss off around the universe for what seems like an eternity.....Leaving a poor itinerant carpenter to bring up his bastard son.