Matt Walsh on Dr Phil.

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But gender is merely a thing of the mind right? Here is my problem. If a person claims that their gender (a societal construct which advocates are keen to distinct from sex which is said to be physical) is wrong, why do they do to change their bodies? If they change their bodies, that means they change their biology which is sex, not gender. 
1. That would be them expressing themselves.
What are they expressing? If they are expressing gender (a non biological thing in the mind), why do they need surgery? What happened the gender not gaving anything to do with biology? What's with the alteration of the body then?

2. Biological sex is more than genitalia. 
It is - it's a plethora of factors. 

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What are they expressing? If they are expressing gender (a non biological thing in the mind), why do they need surgery? What happened to gender not having anything to do with biology? What's with the alteration of the body then?
It’s like asking someone who’s born deformed why they need surgery. They want to be happy in their own skin. 
When did I say biology has nothing to do with gender? Everything has to do with biology. Without biology perception wouldn’t exist. 

It is - it's a plethora of factors. 
Can you name them so we’re on the same page?

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If you are referring to transgender people, "changing your gender" is disingenuous. As I have explained, there is no "changing of gender" which occurs, they do not suddenly "become" the gender they identify as. They discover that they are indeed that gender, now, you might make an argument about changing one's phenotypical sexual features or "sex" but that is entirely different and does not correlate with this situation. 

The proper time to come out as trans is whenever you genuinely discover your gender identity. Sometimes you aren't right, most times people are, and I'm not willing to let all of the people who could be helped by pro-trans legislation get hurt because of the extreme extreme outlier. While it needs to be addressed, taking it away is not proper (this is not me saying you have said that I don't recall, this is me stating my position). 
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@Bones
What are they expressing? If they are expressing gender (a non biological thing in the mind), why do they need surgery? What happened the gender not gaving anything to do with biology? What's with the alteration of the body then?
What are they expressing? Epigenetics, which as you may know is how your brain adapts to external stimuli, in other words - how you perceive the world. Why do they "NEED" surgery? First of all, not all trans-gender people even want surgery and most do not get it, second of all, because while realizing that you have a specific identity as opposed to the one you were prescribed, some people do not feel comfortable in their body, and have anxiety due to it. This anxiety can become extreme and dehabilitating.

Question.

Why do people sometimes have panic attacks when it comes to harmless spiders or snakes? Because the brain is not always rational, because sometimes societal expectations label themselves onto them, and - this is important - gender expression is unique to the individual. Which is to say some people feel like to express that they individually are male they have to do x or y. The big problem is when you expose your own individual gender expression on other people, because this causes this dehabilitating effect. 

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If you are referring to transgender people, "changing your gender" is disingenuous. As I have explained, there is no "changing of gender" which occurs, they do not suddenly "become" the gender they identify as. They discover that they are indeed that gender, now, you might make an argument about changing one's phenotypical sexual features or "sex" but that is entirely different and does not correlate with this situation. 
How would you have responded to Matt's question of what do you define as a women? From my perspective, it seems that you are defining gender as broadly as you can, so that anyone can morph into, or in your terms, discover their gender. Do you not think that a term such as "sex", of which is grounded in biology, is more stable? 

The proper time to come out as trans is whenever you genuinely discover your gender identity. Sometimes you aren't right, most times people are, and I'm not willing to let all of the people who could be helped by pro-trans legislation get hurt because of the extreme extreme outlier.
I don't think a successful transition indicates anything regarding the empirical status of a being. What do you think of trans-speciesism? Does not your stance allow for the switching of species? Mere thought does not, in my opinion, have the weight to alter biology. 

Why do people sometimes have panic attacks when it comes to harmless spiders or snakes? Because the brain is not always rational, because sometimes societal expectations label themselves onto them, and - this is important - gender expression is unique to the individual. Which is to say some people feel like to express that they individually are male they have to do x or y. The big problem is when you expose your own individual gender expression on other people, because this causes this dehabilitating effect. 
This is a false equivalence. Phobias and other anxiety disorders are caused by some type of dysfunction in the amygdala and related brain areas. Trans activists do not believe there is anything dysfunctional about transgendered people. Moreover, when someone switches their gender, there is no inspection on whether there are any biological ties to the reason they believe they are the opposite gender. If you have a phobia, there is a quantifiable and understandable reason for your reaction. 
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Matt Walsh performed very well on Dr. Phil. 
I would say his best showing was against the two gender activists, who 

1) Could not define the word woman
2) Claimed they were traumatized by Matt Walsh after the panel (Actually true).

Bottom line, the conclusion (trans women are women) does not work, if being a woman is entirely contingent on the beliefs of the subject. 
Masterful work by Mr. Walsh.
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How would you have responded to Matt's question of what do you define as a women? From my perspective, it seems that you are defining gender as broadly as you can, so that anyone can morph into, or in your terms, discover their gender. Do you not think that a term such as "sex", of which is grounded in biology, is more stable? 
Nope, because gender is grounded in biology as well - your mind is as biologic as your junk, thats something that needs to be expressed very clearly. What being a woman is, is how you experience it, it seems to me like you are trying to needlessly narrow it. But I always priortize the brain to the junk, sorry buddy. 


I don't think a successful transition indicates anything regarding the empirical status of a being. What do you think of trans-speciesism? Does not your stance allow for the switching of species? Mere thought does not, in my opinion, have the weight to alter biology. 
You have no idea what your talking about friend - and I mean this in the nicest way possible - you have utterly ignored my entire argument if this is the level of feedback Im getting this won't happen anymore cuz you aren't reading my responses. I said that this is a discovery, which does not imply change. You have misunderstood as a very fundamental level.

Furthermore, again sex and gender are different, this is why its important - just like sex describes phenotypical features, species does too, i have never claimed that being transgender changes your sex - I have said that you discover your gender does not match and ought to be priortized. Trans-specieism is not an apt comparison to transgender "ism" for that very reason.

This is a false equivalence. Phobias and other anxiety disorders are caused by some type of dysfunction in the amygdala and related brain areas. Trans activists do not believe there is anything dysfunctional about transgendered people. Moreover, when someone switches their gender, there is no inspection on whether there are any biological ties to the reason they believe they are the opposite gender. If you have a phobia, there is a quantifiable and understandable reason for your reaction. 
You have utterly missed the point of the analogy. I am a trans activist, once again "switched" is the wrong verb here, you have truly learned nothing. But I'll explain this before ending the conversation. The point of the analogy was to point out how it depends on individual experience and how what seems irrational or unintuitive for one person is not for another. I would reccomend trying to look a bit deeper. 
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@Theweakeredge
How would you have responded to Matt's question of what do you define as a women? From my perspective, it seems that you are defining gender as broadly as you can, so that anyone can morph into, or in your terms, discover their gender. Do you not think that a term such as "sex", of which is grounded in biology, is more stable? 
Nope, because gender is grounded in biology as well


Social construct refers to an idea that has been created and accepted by the people in a society. As such, according to your ideology, gender is a societal construct. 

your mind is as biologic as your junk, thats something that needs to be expressed very clearly. What being a woman is, is how you experience it, it seems to me like you are trying to needlessly narrow it. But I always priortize the brain to the junk, sorry buddy. 
I don't prioritise, I prioritise a plethora of factors, including chromosomes, bone density, hormonal profiles, gametes and "junk". Let me ask you a very clear and simple question. What biological factors do one need to possess in order to be truly gender dysphoric? 

If biological man who has XY, male typical bone density and male exclusive gametes but they believe that they are a women, how ought this individual be categorised. Should be jeopardise the 3 criterions I provided (and also the numerous ones I didn't) for the sake of the mind? 

I said that this is a discovery, which does not imply change. You have misunderstood as a very fundamental level.
What you have done is essentially make your position unfalsifiable. 

  • If a person "discovers" their gender and is happy with their transition, this bolsters your ideology. 
  • If someone regrets their transition, they were merely confused. 
In essence, you ignore all the people who may taint your criteria and write them off as wrong. Across all evelen long term studies ever conducted on gender dysphoric children, between 60 to 90 percent desist by puberty. But of course, the people who detransition, you will, were not real transgenders. 

I have said that you discover your gender does not match and ought to be priortized.
What mechanism allows one to "discover their gender". 

This is a false equivalence. Phobias and other anxiety disorders are caused by some type of dysfunction in the amygdala and related brain areas. Trans activists do not believe there is anything dysfunctional about transgendered people. Moreover, when someone switches their gender, there is no inspection on whether there are any biological ties to the reason they believe they are the opposite gender. If you have a phobia, there is a quantifiable and understandable reason for your reaction. 
You have utterly missed the point of the analogy. I am a trans activist, once again "switched" is the wrong verb here, you have truly learned nothing.
Thanks for your reassurance. 

But I'll explain this before ending the conversation. The point of the analogy was to point out how it depends on individual experience and how what seems irrational or unintuitive for one person is not for another.
No your original point is as follows: 

Why do people sometimes have panic attacks when it comes to harmless spiders or snakes?
Because the brain is not always rational
this is because  societal expectations label themselves onto them
therefore gender expression is unique to the individual.

Individual experience is not why people have phobias, phobias have a psychological root for their existence - people need not have scaring experiences with spiders to have arachnophobia.  A posteriori knowledge is not compatible with phobia. 

I would reccomend trying to look a bit deeper. 
I will wager that I have read more on this subject than you. 


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I love how when discusding transgender it's always men converting to women just like whenever people discuss homosexuality it's always men and men.
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Nope, because gender is grounded in biology as well - your mind is as biologic as your junk, thats something that needs to be expressed very clearly. What being a woman is, is how you experience it, it seems to me like you are trying to needlessly narrow it. But I always priortize the brain to the junk, sorry buddy. 
But what is a woman? The traditional definition supported by people like Walsh would have to do with DNA, genitals, secondary sex characteristics…what is your competing definition and why is it better, how do YOU define it?
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Maybe because 9/10 people here are men speaking to men. 
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Or maybe it's because men only care about what other men are doing because it's some sort of macho b*******.
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Or maybe it's because men only care about what other men are doing because it's some sort of macho b*******.
Nah if a group of 99 men and 1 women were discussing gender, is it not normal the man to use "he" pronouns?

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You might be interested to see that the likely next Supreme Court Justice was asked the same question Walsh asked those activists and she failed to give an answer: https://twitter.com/richardhanania/status/1506457584428937224?s=21 

I agree with Hanania (who is no friend to conservatives.) This really does settle the question of which side is more disconnected from reality. People who say things like this understand less about human nature than illiterate medieval peasants did  

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No one knows exactly what causes gender dysphoria. Some experts believe that hormones in the womb, genes, and cultural and environmental factors may be involved. I think that in the future, scientists will find that it is due to damaged pathways in the brain (brain lesions).
One of my best friends who was an athlete and a weight lifter was gay. He ended up committing suicide.
Ditto!

Gender Identity Disorder has been, on average, less than 0.6% of the (US) population. It is abnormal. Unnatural. A genetic defect. 
Even then, the mind still recognizes what sex/gender it is "supposed" to be, which accounts for the high suicide rate among those who fully (physically) transition. It's like looking in the mirror knowing who and what you are, then the next day looking in the mirror and what you see is something completely different. It shocks the brain, throws it into a whirlwind of physical and emotional pain. So much so that the individual cannot take it and sadly, takes their own life due to that gross incongruity of their own reality. 

Your best friend, did he choose suicide merely because he was gay OR something else undisclosed??? 
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He was an engineer who started his own contracting company. He initially did very well and got a lot of contracts. As people found out he was gay he lost a lot of work. He began having financial problems and that is when he killed himself. 
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Sorry about your best friend. Did this happen prior to a more universal acceptance of gay men, or after and if so, what state, because I feel that makes a difference or a direct impact.  Regardless, him being gay has absolutely nothing to do with his expertise.