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You are speaking about helping pregnant women until they have their baby, correct?

I am speaking about the baby once it's born.
Yes my money goes indirectly to their moms for resources before and after birth.
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States rights are intrinsic to the US sytsem of governance. Federalism prevents regulation from taking freedom away because a plan passed in California won't affect Texas. This just allows policy to be more specified to a region, rather than using a one size fits all approach. Additionally states rights grant protection from the federal government, which at times can be over reaching. I belive that states rights does not hold up in the area of abortion because of the nature of the issue. The whole issue with abortion is determening if it is murder or not. If it is murder it should be regulated federally, and if it is not it should not be regulated, so states rights shoudn't really even be a consideration in terms of abortion policy.
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Well stated.

Sound common sense.
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Yes my money goes indirectly to their moms for resources before and after birth.
So, you support benefits/welfare to a parent per child born, for instance? As a policy, I mean.
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Would you like to elaborate to me on what you do for people born into poverty? As in what do you vote for with regards to helping them out.
I don’t generally vote for people that want to massively expand spending programs to solve issues your policies caused.

The great society welfare programs and similar laws, the “sexual revolution”, and getting rid of fault divorce are just a few of the causes of your “single impoverished mother” problem. I vote right-wing to cure the illness, rather than trying to feed and treat the cancer simultaneously as you do.
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Being born to a single unmarried mother is the worst luck a child could hope for. It guarantees a subpar life stripped of wasted potential and denied opportunities.

Throwing money at this only makes it worse since it created the problem in the first place.
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Quite a few single moms out there doing pretty goddamn good job. Being born to a single parent home where it's the father is the worst case you can be born into. Because they're entitled to less programs than mothers are. For instance a single father can't get WIC.
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So, you support benefits/welfare to a parent per child born, for instance? As a policy, I mean.
If they don’t have an abortion and need the help financially, I don’t see why not? I believe in charity. Many such programs exist both taxpayer funded and non-taxpayer funded.

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Quite a few single moms out there doing pretty goddamn good job.
"Not all women" argument is of little comfort for the vast majority of failed children of single moms. Those kids struggle across the board to pair bond and to be productive and integrate into society. Every social metric from poverty to poor education to crime clearly shows the number one precursor to that diminished life is from having the utter misfortune of only having a single mom.

Since women are the ones that choose relationships and are by far the ones that end them. It's not a guy problem in the main.
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Quite a few single moms out there doing pretty goddamn good job. Being born to a single parent home where it's the father is the worst case you can be born into. Because they're entitled to less programs than mothers are. For instance a single father can't get WIC.
Another lie.

“Single fathers, on average, have higher incomes than single mothers and are far less likely to be living at or below the poverty line—24% versus 43%.



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It’s an outright lie statistically.
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It’s an outright lie statistically.

No, it's true there are outliers; but for the vast majority of kids, the best a man can get isn't a woke Gillette razor. It's having 2 parents.
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That's okay it doesn't comfort rape victims either when they say not all men. Just think, if more of those women would have had abortions.
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Rape victims don't say not all men. They say all men. 

Outliers don't make the norm. A few good single mothers or a few bad male rapists don't define the general culture of a society.  

We don't have a national rape culture and we also don't generally have kids growing up normal with single unmarried moms.

The majority of kids are today held hostage by single unmarried women making excuses with rare outlier exceptions. The same women that hold the vast majority of men responsible for a few rapists also excuse bad women by refusing to hold the vast majority of shitty single mothers accountable or responsible for directly creating the single household dystopias for their kids. This is a societal problem created by women, supported by women, excused by women, and perpetuated by women. Women who in the vast majority of all cases are the sole deciders of relationships, deciding who to date, who to sleep with, who to divorce, and how many kids they want to bring up in misery and destitution in a single unmarried household. 

If this is what the toxic Matriarchy looks like, show me the door.
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Who is suggesting states shouldn’t have rights?
Every party in power in Washington DC.
 Provide one valid example.

Because there is a huge difference in the efficiency of Central Planning at a local level over a National level. You know this already.
Then you favor county rights over states rights correct? Assuming so since you believe more local control is better, I’d love to know your thoughts on how Ron DeSantis is governing Florida. Telling school districts they’re not allowed to impose mask mandates even when the mayors support them, for example.

There's a reason why hypocrite New York politicians vacation in Florida. State Rights.
No, they go to Florida because it’s beautiful thanks to the palm trees and nice weather. This argument is so dumb, the idea that people flock to Florida’s because of its politics. Anything to make yourself feel validated I guess…

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No, they go to Florida because it’s beautiful thanks to the palm trees and nice weather. 

San Fran has nice weather too...but those damn State Covid mandates...no New York Elite chooses that for their personal vacation.

Florida is the place they can go maskless without virtue signaling to you because they can blame someone else for going maskless.
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It wasn’t an all encompassing answer. Do I really need to explain the difference between Florida and anywhere else in the US? Do you think no one was enjoying time away in Florida before Ron DeSantis?

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There's a huge difference between Florida and San Fran. Same weather, same trees, different State mandates, different results from different policies. Less crime. Freer outdoor fun. Less panicporn. More economic stability.