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I've never asked for anyone to be banned. And there's a big f****** difference between posting on a website and not being able to have an abortion because some conservative piece of crap who thinks his/her morality is better than yours gets to tell you what to do with your own body.
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I've never asked for anyone to be banned. And there's a big f****** difference between posting on a website and not being able to have an abortion because some conservative piece of crap who thinks his/her morality is better than yours gets to tell you what to do with your own body.
If you can’t even stand the person you’re talking to because of their beliefs, you’d ban them in a second. Just admit that you succumb to groupthink beliefs.

You lack the capacity to see a human who truly believes that they want the best for humanity rather than their own selfish reasons (which don’t even exist in this case)
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@zedvictor4
That’s irrelevant to the discussion.
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@ILikePie5
Not to Poly's discussion.


Humans are inherently selfish,

They want what they want.

Altruism is a rare thing indeed.

And the ability to be selectively moral is simply a response to conditioned sensibilities.

And you perhaps lack the "capacity" to understand this.

Maybe you weren't invested with such "capacity".


We all have to succumb to group think beliefs,

Which shapes and limits our "capacity".

State is as State does.

And in a two party State,

One's conditioned capacity is relative to one or the other, or neither.


And the options are quite stark.

Oppression or tolerance.

All with the capacity to be selectively moral.

There's no obvious high ground.
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We all have to succumb to group think beliefs,
No we don’t. 
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Did you never listen to your mum or dad, or your teachers, or your schoolfriends?

Have you always existed in a soundproof bubble,

And magically acquired all your internalised data?
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Just admit that you succumb to groupthink beliefs. 

We all have to succumb to group think beliefs,
The group think conversation has always irritated me. For every societal issue there will always be a limited number of “acceptable” positions one can hold. So no matter what side you fall on there will always be countless individuals who believe the same thing, some “group” you can be categorized in. Unless you’re one of those who’s so obsessed with the idea of “thinking for yourself” that you take absurd positions just to be different from everyone else, which is ironically even worse because that means the position you land on was still dictated by others except now it’s just a ridiculous one.

With that said, unless you have a valid reason for proclaiming that someone is taking a position just to be like everyone else around them (blatant hypocrisy being the main tell), the charge that someone isn’t really thinking for themselves is unfalsifiable and therefore a pointless road to go down. I find that this charge is mostly either projection or an attempt by one to deflect from the issue cause they have nothing better. Or maybe someone who is just tired of the conversation but wants to make it seem like the other person is the problem.

Sorry, just had to get that out.
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@zedvictor4
Did you never listen to your mum or dad, or your teachers, or your schoolfriends?

Have you always existed in a soundproof bubble,

And magically acquired all your internalised data?
I think you need to reevaluate your defintion of groupthink.
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With that said, unless you have a valid reason for proclaiming that someone is taking a position just to be like everyone else around them (blatant hypocrisy being the main tell), the charge that someone isn’t really thinking for themselves is unfalsifiable and therefore a pointless road to go down. I find that this charge is mostly either projection or an attempt by one to deflect from the issue cause they have nothing better. Or maybe someone who is just tired of the conversation but wants to make it seem like the other person is the problem.
I think the main issue the lack of belief that other ideas may be reasonable. I have no problem with her being against me. But she clearly has a problem that I’m against her because as a man I’m not allowed to have that opinion. A woman cannot have my opinion either. As a business professional, this type of behavior would constitute a negative environment, which is statistically likely to fail. All ideas should be accepted and respected. You may not agree with them, which is fine, but you can’t just say that guy can’t have this opinion.
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Jan6 Shaman: Some nonsense talk and dancing.

Jailed for life for insurrection.

Colbert: Let's dissolve the Senate.

Eardrums bleed from clapter.


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@Wylted
There is another issue at play also. Sometimes we don't know the best policies, until a bunch are tried out. The states work as an open market for testing policy ideals. With state rights we can see what works best, and other states will slowly adopt it as well, assuming it works as well for their unique part of the country. 

This was how gay marriage and legalized pot evolved by the way. Without State Rights, this probably wouldn't have been possible especially as both groups affected are minorities. In a pure Democracy, minorities get absolutely crushed.

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@ILikePie5
Group and Think.

A very simple compound word.
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@spacetime
You are deeply unintelligent.
Have you ever read your own content here?

She's actually making solid points.
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Why are you assuming I have a “dick.” Also, why are you assuming I am religious? 
Your profile says you are male and you have in no shape or form implied that you're transgender.

You have revealed to the website elsewhere, that you are a Hindu.
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The typical shitlib response to any wrongthink from a group they pretend to represent "I am a voice for women. Oh you don't think babies should be murdered on a mass scale? You just think you're a second-class citizen" "I am a voice for blacks #BLM #BIPOC. You don't like affirmative action? You're a white supremacist, and you are like that guy from a cabin book I never read!"
And the typical cuntservative reply is 'sure, I care about the baby... Until it's born then it can rot in the poverty I forced it to be born into'.
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More conservative ideology (B = 0.68, standard error [SE] = 0.04, P<.001) and more conservative party affiliation (F(8 2920) = 38.45, P<.001) showed more stigmatizing attitudes toward depression. Item-level analyses revealed a difference where the supporters of the conservative party differed (P<.05) from supporters of the liberal party, with a higher proportion agreeing that "people could snap out of " depression if they wanted to; the populist right-wing party differed from the conservative party with a higher proportion agreeing on items displaying people with depression as "dangerous" and "unpredictable." Even self-stigma was highest among the populist right-wing party with 22.3% agreeing that "if I had depression I wouldn’t tell…."
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And the typical cuntservative reply is 'sure, I care about the baby... Until it's born then it can rot in the poverty I forced it to be born into'.
This is demonstrably false. 
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@ILikePie5
Oh yeah? Enlighten me.

If you mean it's false they directly say those words, then yeah it's false.
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@cowardly guy that blocked me for being "Illuminati"

And the typical cuntservative reply is 'sure, I care about the baby... Until it's born then it can rot in the poverty I forced it to be born into'.

Source?

Because charitable giving stats show that even though conservative households make 6% less on average, they give 30% more than the average household.

All the top 15 donating states voted Republican in 2012, while 13 of the bottom 15 voted Democrat
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Oh yeah? Enlighten me.

If you mean it's false they directly say those words, then yeah it's false.
My state of Texas funds various “houses” that can help poor women with clothes, diapers, formula, toys, you name it for new born children.

All taxpayer funded of course.


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@Greyparrot
Without State Rights…
Who is suggesting states shouldn’t have rights?
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@Double_R
Who is suggesting states shouldn’t have rights?
Every party in power in Washington DC.

I fail to see how a state government telling its citizens what they can and can’t do is any different from the federal government doing the same.
Because there is a huge difference in the efficiency of Central Planning at a local level over a National level. You know this already.
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My state of Texas funds various “houses” that can help poor women with clothes, diapers, formula, toys, you name it for new born children.

All taxpayer funded of course.
And is it in your state that ghettos have arisen? 

Also, please show me proof that the trailer park type of poverty in Texas and Tennessee is actually met with charity helping out their young.
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And the typical cuntservative reply is 'sure, I care about the baby... Until it's born then it can rot in the poverty I forced it to be born into'.
Source?
Would you like to elaborate to me on what you do for people born into poverty? As in what do you vote for with regards to helping them out.
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When was the last time you agreed with the government’s position but disagreed with its implementation because of which government  was enforcing it?

Mask and Vaccine mandates maybe? There's a reason why hypocrite New York politicians vacation in Florida. State Rights.
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And is it in your state that ghettos have arisen? 

Unregulated tents in Seattle and San Fran are the new craze Fam. Ghetto housing is a luxury.
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And is it in your state that ghettos have arisen? 
What?

Also, please show me proof that the trailer park type of poverty in Texas and Tennessee is actually met with charity helping out their young.
Here’s the State of Texas programs that promote life over abortion: https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/health/women-children/alternatives-abortion

And here is a community funded initiative:

Anything else?
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Here’s the State of Texas programs that promote life over abortion: https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/health/women-children/alternatives-abortion

And here is a community funded initiative:

Anything else?
Yes, I am not asking for a charity dedicated to stopping abortions in Texas and keeping it pro-life, I am asking for proof that you give money and provide proper education, healthcare, transport and overall integration for the impoverished children into the rest of society.

I already know that the right-wing do not do this, I am asking you to admit that their 'giving a damn' about a fetus ends the moment that it's born.
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Yes, I am not asking for a charity dedicated to stopping abortions in Texas and keeping it pro-life, I am asking for proof that you give money and provide proper education, healthcare, transport and overall integration for the impoverished children into the rest of society.

I already know that the right-wing do not do this, I am asking you to admit that their 'giving a damn' about a fetus ends the moment that it's born.
I pay a sales tax on every purchase that funds these programs. I have also volunteered at the Trotter House myself. 

My money goes towards programs that fund all of the things you mentioned. Next question.
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@ILikePie5
You are speaking about helping pregnant women until they have their baby, correct?

I am speaking about the baby once it's born.