You and him as contenders need to decide the judges. And just as you have a say in it, he should as well
Resolved - Lunatics recent actions toward RM are unjustified
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@Mikal
Then you can talk to him on my behalf. I have been told by you and whiteflame not to interact, this is not really a smart idea for me as I know he will pull every dirty tactic in the book in the debate to get under my skin and at present I am emotional enough about this that it will work.
I will do this later on and formulate a proper case. In the meantime he is free to debate whoever on that topic.
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@Mikal
Who has been more harsh (of course he has).
I don't think I have been more "harsh" in the slightest. I can back that up too with sources from some of the things RM has said. He is just trying to paint the picture that I have been worse in this exchange.
I have no problem judging it.
I’d be happy to judge
Ramshutu will vote against me, there is no doubt.
Lol rm trying to hand pick voters who suck him off. I say leave it open voting then.
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@Lunatic
That is one way to twist me avoiding the opposite, I suppose.
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@Mikal
The thing is this, I don't really want to discuss it or remember it all. I want to forget it as a blur and get over it.
So, I don't really see what it is I need to defend, I can fully justify to anybody why I am in the right and he is in the wrong but it depends on that person's moral compass and seeing the events that unfolded, I hate him and don't want to interact with him like I actually get anxious even seeing that he's the one who has written a post in a thread at this point. I just want to stay away from him, he is literally harassing me and a very bad kind of person that I can totally justify is so, to anyone in private who I trust won't PM-leak or start shit. The start is to firstly just sit back and read what unfolded from his return 2 weeks ago to now, the rest follows logically from there.
If there's any doubt in one's mind after that, chat with me in private. If you're blocked, it's probably for a reason though but I'm down to unblock if you tell me to unblock for a chat but I won't unblock someone who I see as 100% in it to leak the PMs and emotionally taunt me.
RM is avoiding every non biased judges lmao
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@Vader
I'm not biased and he threw my name into it.
I think I would also be just as unbiased picking judges, if they want to elect me as judge picker. I will have no problem picking non biased judges who are vo patent.
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@RationalMadman
@Lunatic
Assuming this happens I would like to volunteer as a judge.
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@RationalMadman
@Lunatic
Or as one potential comprise make it open voting but you each get some number of people that you can disqualify from voting based on the belief that they would bee too biased. Just list them before round one and if you are listed by either debator your vote doesn't count, would have to limit the number of people each debator can list though. Maybe three at most. American trials have a rule like this for the jury selection process.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Or as one potential comprise make it open voting but you each get some number of people that you can disqualify from voting based on the belief that they would bee too biased. Just list them before round one and if you are listed by either debator your vote doesn't count, would have to limit the number of people each debator can list though. Maybe three at most. American trials have a rule like this for the jury selection process.
I opt for open voting in general. I would hope mods will to their best to prevent bad votes. RM is the only one here who has qualms with voters it seems. I am okay with everyone who has offered to judge this however. I doubt this will happen as RM will look for many an excuse to call out the voters however so we will see what happens.
But I think even pie, DD and wylted would be pretty unbiased. I don't know ramshutu enough to vouch for him, but I can comment on the other 3. I know RM thinks wylted would be biased towards me, but that is not the case in the slightest. Wylted has called me out in PM's for certain defenses of airmax, and has even recently called me out for scaring RM away from voting airmax. Wylted is a lot more unbiased I think than RM gives him credit for.
I think you are pretty unbiased here because you were seeming pretty open minded about who you would vote for in the early election stages and seemed to actively consider RM as a candidate.
And pie and me have had a longstanding beef with each other in the forums for a long time. Pie is someone I respect though to be honest and not let emotion or bias overcome him. But considering how hard RM sucked up to him when I called pie out, you would think RM should be okay with this one as well.
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@Lunatic
But I think even pie, DD and wylted would be pretty unbiased.
This sounds like the perfect panel to me personally, though I suppose I am a bit biased in assessing my own bias.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I am perfectly okay with that panel as well.
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@Lunatic
But considering how hard RM sucked up to him when I called pie out
This is the kind of shit you will say throughout, as if it's not genuine defense against your abuse but 'sucking up'.
This is the kind of shit you will say throughout, as if it's not genuine defense against your abuse but 'sucking up'.
How does it make sense that you are more offended for pie's sake then pie is offended for his own sake? Explain that lol
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@Lunatic
The same way you are so offended for Airmax, now you got to admit this is a comeback you got nothing smart to say back to.
Remember one thing, what you attacked Pie for was his freedom to vote for who he pleases, what I attacked Airmax for was genuine questions and claims that he could reply to and defend against if he so chose. Pie can't defend against you when you say his reasoning is a lie and really he's just a traitor to freedom of speech when there were other things to consider. I am also not anti-freedom, real freedom means disciplining those that will bully the free away.
The same way you are so offended for Airmax, now you got to admit this is a comeback you got nothing smart to say back to.
No it's a horrible comeback lol. No one is offended by anything you said about airmax, we just call you out on your bs when you claim victim after going after him. Secondly I was always a supporter of airmax, you only tried to appeal to pie by using my thread against him, despite previously campaigning hard against him. Similar to what you are now doing with 3RU7AL lol.
Remember one thing, what you attacked Pie for was his freedom to vote for who he pleases
Not at all true. I attacked him because I felt he was being hypocritical with his stance on free speech. I didn't say he couldn't vote for you, just that it was pathetic that he would. But I've already worked it out with him in DM's so it's a non issue now.
what I attacked Airmax for was genuine questions and claims that he could reply to and defend against if he so chose.
Do you want me start spamming you with qoutes again where you attacked his character and called him corrupt and all sorts of sh1t or can you just man up and admit you are lying, because obviously you did more than "ask him questions".
Pie can't defend against you when you say his reasoning is a lie and really he's just a traitor to freedom of speech when there were other things to consider. I am also not anti-freedom, real freedom means disciplining those that will bully the free away.
How do you plan to discipline yourself for all the bullying you've done lately?
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@Lunatic
You have no capacity for self-reflection. That much I have determined.
Thank you and goodbye. I will not be engaging you further in this thread, Mikal has also been abusive to me recently now so it's up to others if they want me to debate you, to arrange it.
You have no capacity for self-reflection. That much I have determined.
hypocrite.
Thank you and goodbye. I will not be engaging you further in this thread, Mikal has also been abusive to me recently now so it's up to others if they want me to debate you, to arrange it.\
You were never gonna debate me anyway. Coward.
Also don't say good bye yet unless you really mean it baby. I expect to wake up to you tagging me another 100 times like I always do. You tag me more than a clingy ex girlfriend.
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@Lunatic
I don't know ramshutu enough to vouch for him
RMs issue with voters - and my votes - can be pretty well covered by this gem of a debate I had with him.
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@Ramshutu
I don't know ow if you dishonestly vote against him, but reading through your RFD's, you certainly ly vote incorrectly