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I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with supa 100 percent 
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It doesn't matter if you do or don't as he is the type of guy who would have continually abused and harassed me whether you did or didn't close that thread (why else is he calling me RationalCrybaby again and again instead of RM).
When you finally decide to grow up and be a big boy, and stop blocking and gaslighting people who dis-agree with you, I will give you the respect of calling you your actual username again.

Whether you unlocked it or not, he'd keep abusing me until you set up an RO where his abusive tendencies would inevitably have led to him either violating it or coming after another user. He can't help himself, it's just a waiting game for me. The only way he's unbanned at the moment is due to favouritism and sticking to forum games where the way he talks is considered okay.
This is more gaslighting. You ignore the fact that an extensive dialogue has been going on for over 100 posts, and the majority of the time that dialogue wasn't in support of me. Dismissing me as a favorite is absolutely irrational. You of course don't accuse the mods of favoritism when they act on enforcing your bans however.

He will eventually find that the rules apply to him, your leniency on him will only last so long. I am aware I am fighting with my hand tied behind my back since you'd ban me the instant I was even half as nasty back at him.
All of the "nastiness" has originated from you gaslighting me, and making this personal RM. The second you want to be an adult, and talk like an adult and debate me in a more professional way, we can do that. The onus is on you. Until then you can be RationalCrybaby though.

I also don't want to engage him like that, it doesn't achieve anything. He's a bully who won't stop what he's doing whether I am passive or active in my defense against it. The only time he'd stop is if I totally give in and don't respond at all.
Your incapable of not responding however, because the truth is RCB, YOU are the bully. 
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I would not ban either you or Luna, and hell, I wouldn't even give a warning. I'm saying that administrations in the past would. Remember your whole fiasco with David and your 2 month ban.
I remember it better than you do. I was banned for far less abuse across 2 years than Lunatic has done in just under 2 weeks.
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When you finally decide to grow up and be a big boy, I will give you the respect of calling you your actual username again.
You will find it will be sooner than that, it's just a waiting game for me. Keep up the disrespect though, don't bother trying to be respectful and nice now.

You are the one who gaslights but I am done talking about a term you have no idea about.
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You and I clearly do not have the same definition of abuse 
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When you finally decide to grow up and be a big boy, and stop blocking and gaslighting people who dis-agree with you, I will give you the respect of calling you your actual username again.
You will find it will be sooner than that, it's just a waiting game for me. Keep up the disrespect though, don't bother trying to be respectful and nice now.
You growing up will be sooner rather than later? Good to know. I am proud of you. Whose a big boi! Whose a good boy?! RCB is! 


You are the one who gaslights but I am done talking about a term you have no idea about.
I mean I literally can prove and point out instances where you do it, you can't do that for me though lol. 

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I mean I literally can prove and point out instances where you do it, you can't do that for me though lol. 
Oh, I certainly can. I just don't play poker with my cards face-up. Keep trying your twisted mindgames, you have won in the short-term. I'm just sitting, waiting and collecting evidence of your harassment of me.
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My vote would go to entirely subjective at adherent to white flame as head mod 
whiteflame has been nothing short of impressive

however, i make it a policy to trust systems over individuals

whiteflame may become unavailable without warning - as all humans

if we have a durable system in place - whiteflame is a valued asset

but 

NOT



necessity
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I showed you I. The thread I mentioned a few posts back that airmax has already created that type of system and is better capable of i.pksing it on the site than you are. Are you going to drop out, since he can better fulfill your platform?
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we're not voting on site owner
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I mean I literally can prove and point out instances where you do it, you can't do that for me though lol. 
Oh, I certainly can. I just don't play poker with my cards face-up. Keep trying your twisted mindgames, you have won in the short-term. I'm just sitting, waiting and collecting evidence of your harassment of me.

You continue to further my point by demonstrating your agenda isn't to achieve debate and discussion, that it is to "win". You getting my thread locked was a win for you. This just shows the person you are at your core. I reccomend therapy. 
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Of course. That thread doesn't state we are. Your platform is the first thing mentioned in the thread and an explanation at why you would not be able to fulfill your platform as easily as airmax is also listed. Go to the thread and respond, unless you agree with it, I. Which case just do the ethical thing and drop out.
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We were never ever debating. Ever.

You were after me from day one of your return here most recently. You amped it up on the second day and have kept at it. The mods are fooled by you for now, thinking this is mutual and that I'm also instigating. I will show them the reality by completely ceasing to talk about you or to you until you or others bring you up.
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Of course. That thread doesn't state we are. Your platform is the first thing mentioned in the thread and an explanation at why you would not be able to fulfill your platform as easily as airmax is also listed. Go to the thread and respond, unless you agree with it, I. Which case just do the ethical thing and drop out.
i am unconvinced
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The fact you can't defeat that argument, surprises me just about as much as it surprises me that you don't know how capitalization works.
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The fact you can't defeat that argument, surprises me just about as much as it surprises me that you don't know how capitalization works.
i remain unconvinced by your rhetorical tactics
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This is not a rhetorical attack. It picks apart the entirety of your platform and how it would be accomplished easier with airmax. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7185-why-3ru7al-should-drop-out-of-the-race-and-his-supporters-should-vote-airmax

The fact you won't address it, is a confession you know it is right. So why won't you drop out?

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rhetorical tactics
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We were never ever debating. Ever.
I know. Hard to debate when your opponent gaslight you and drops 90% of your arguments.

You were after me from day one of your return here most recently. You amped it up on the second day and have kept at it. The mods are fooled by you for now, thinking this is mutual and that I'm also instigating. I will show them the reality by completely ceasing to talk about you or to you until you or others bring you up.
This is all a manipulation of reality and far from factual. You are playing up your victim status once again.
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And you call me the crybaby.
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And you call me the crybaby.
That's correct.
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Understand: people will constantly attack you in life. One of their main weapons will be to instill in you doubts about yourself – your worth, your abilities, your potential. They will often disguise this as their objective opinion, but invariably it has a political purpose – they want to keep you down.
― Robert Greene, The 50th Law


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"You are lame"

-Sun Tzu Probably
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Actually that is what he taught. Sun Tzu taught to always be humble enough to know your enemy can defeat you and to constantly remain vigilant, something you could learn to consider.

Step into the debating arena more often, this chit-chat forum shit isn't debating, it's a joke for the casuals. I don't have an issue with forum-debating but this isn't debating and never was, the only difference is you're judging my ability at debating based on my performance here.
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Actually that is what he taught. Sun Tzu taught to always be humble enough to know your enemy can defeat you and to constantly remain vigilant, something you could learn to consider.
*whoosh*

Step into the debating arena more often, this chit-chat forum shit isn't debating, it's a joke for the casuals. I don't have an issue with forum-debating but this isn't debating and never was, the only difference is you're judging my ability at debating based on my performance here.
If you want to debate me I'll debate you. Though to be honest I don't see it going much better than it has here. The only reason our conversation has devolved to what it is now is because you hate to respond to anything logical and you bring it all to the personal sh1t. You simply ignore things you don't know what to say to and cherry pick random little things to respond to that have nothing to do with whatever the posts main point is. I've seen your debates, and I know you do similar sh1t there. You are a pathetic excuse for a debater, but I will debate you if you want. I don't see a whole lot of point to debating with the extremely low amount of voters this site has right now, so generally I refrain from it. Forum debating people can't drop your arguments as easy though without it being abundantly obvious like it is with you for example. 

When airmax is elected though I have plans to revitalize debating and voting over all, and plan to do a great many debates.

But yeah, name a topic and I'll school you in debate if that's what you want. Probably something relevant to what we have been discussing, like freedom of speech, or whether moderation should be more or less strict, etc. 
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By 'pathetic excuse', you mean cunning and adept.

I wouldn't want to be predictable and get admired by somebody like yourself so the feeling is mutual. :)
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I didn't say you against me, you barely debate at all in the first place anymore because you haven't had your precious Airmax instated as president as if you need that to feel secure enough to step into the ring.
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By 'pathetic excuse', you mean cunning and adept.

I wouldn't want to be predictable and get admired by somebody like yourself so the feeling is mutual. :)
Cunning and adept lol. More proof of your massive ego.

I didn't say you against me, you barely debate at all in the first place anymore because you haven't had your precious Airmax instated as president as if you need that to feel secure enough to step into the ring.
Of course you wouldn't want to debate me. Scurred. 

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You should fear me too, wise debaters avoid too much conflict with the others that are as skilled, I'll face you once you prove yourself or you make a topic I fancy taking and I have the time and effort for a totally serious debate.
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You should fear me too, wise debaters avoid too much conflict with the others that are as skilled, I'll face you once you prove yourself or you make a topic I fancy taking and I have the time and effort for a totally serious debate.
"prove myself" lol what a joke