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@Stephen
You admit to harassment. Nice job.
Christians, we’re in BIG TROUBLE if certain books are removed from schools!
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@949havoc
Knowing the history of the handing of biblical manuscripts, do you really have to ask?
I think I have a different understanding of manuscripts that you do. The manuscripts are 99% identical and in respect of most major doctrines exact. There are discrepancies with a very small number of documents. Yet compared to other documents of the same period, its overall number and age of the texts puts every other valid document at a considerable embarrassment.
Unlike you I do believe in inerrancy and infallibility and sufficiency. My definitions for those are as follows:
Inerrancy: The Bible is its own measuring stick. Hence it can't be in error since it is its own measure. Unless we can find another method to measure divineness, then this is the only possible measure.
Infallibility: The bible is God -Breathed. This means its origin is in God, not humanity.
Sufficiency: That the Bible contains all we need to know about in order to obtain salvation.
I suggest your DODGE from answering the question is that you prefer not to have to think about the idea contained within that particular text.
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@Stephen
I accept your apology for the liar that you are.
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@Stephen
I don't agree with him either Stephen, but I understand what is he attempting to say. Perhaps you ought to take a course in English?
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@Tradesecret
I accept your apology for the liar that you are.
You'll be getting no undue apology from me Reverend "Tradey".
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@Polytheist-Witch
You admit to harassment.
Nope. not at all., Witch. 949havoc is clearly contradicting himself and is refusing to admit it. Either these scriptures are unreliable going my his own yardstick or they are not. He clearly said that the BIBLE
[A]
" contains a plethora of errors and contradictions". #37
which renders the bible unreliable.
He also claims that Jews and Christians;
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"May not have understood the multiple ancient cultures [culture drives language] to translate correctly".#37
Which also renders the bible unreliable.
And further he says that the authors of the BIBLE:
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" Depended on manuscripts of which none were likely original", #37
Which also renders them bible unreliable.
And has driven his point home with this;
I said that we do not have original manuscript one of any of the books of the Bible. As revealed to prophets, and as revealed by Christ during his earthly ministry......the originals have been manipulated, mistranslated, lost, and otherwise0 made flawed by men. Fallible men. #56
So going by his OWN statements that are his comments render the bible unreliable. And only backpedalling bible dunces such as himself and the Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret without an E will deny this fact.
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@Stephen
Nope. not at all., Witch. 949havoc
Wasn't talking about him.
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@Tradesecret
@Mharman
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Mharman,
YOUR CHILD LIKE QUOTE OF HAVING AN IQ OF MINUS 50: "Lol what is this thread"
Listen up pseudo-christian who is vying to be more dumbfounded than the #1 Tradesecret when it comes to the JUDEO-Christian Bible, if you have to ask such an insipid question that you did, then you DO NOT belong within this forum, understood?
Therefore, why don't you and Tradesecret exit stage right and go to a Children's Christian forum where you will be more at home, agreed? For your convenience, here is one that you can attend: https://www.christianforums.com/forums/children-and-youth-ministry.648/
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@Stephen
@949havoc
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949HAVOC, YOU WERE SENT HERE BY SATAN!
As if Stephen didn’t put the final nail in your coffin in his post #59, because of your outright Devil Speak in saying that the JUDEO-Christian Bible is worthless, here is a recap of the actions that you did when trying to right yourself in front of Jesus:
YOUR STEPPING IN POO QUOTE TO SPECIFICALLY SAY THE BIBLE IS FALLIBLE AND IN ERROR!!!: “But let's be clear about one thing. The Holy Bible is not categorically the infallible word of God. It contains a plethora of errors and contradictions, but there two glaring reasons for this fact:1. God did not write it; men did. Men are imperfect, and it shows.
RELATIVE TO YOUR DEVIL SPEAK SHOWN ABOVE, I BIBLE SLAPPED YOU SILLY IN THE FOLLOWING POST: https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7009-christians-we-re-in-big-trouble-if-certain-books-are-removed-from-schools?page=2&post_number=44
YOUR CHILDLIKE RESPONSE SUBSEQUENT TO YOUR UNGODLY STATEMENT ABOVE WHICH IS PURE DEVIL SPEAK!!!: “You have entirely, completely, and irrevocably misrepresented what I said for your personal foil. Sorry, can't let you get away with that. Read what I said, again, because I do not say that God gave us flawed scriptures. I said that we do not have original manuscript one of any of the books of the Bible. As revealed to prophets, and as revealed by Christ during his earthly ministry, yes, that was pure. But the originals have been manipulated, mistranslated, lost, and otherwise0 made flawed by men. Fallible men. Get it?
NO I DID NOT MISREPRESENT WHAT YOU SAID BIBLE FOOL IN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE CALLING THE BIBLE AS NOT BEING TRUTHFUL!
1. What we have within the scriptures is what we have and is the foundation of Christianity for 2000 years plus, period, and YOU call it in error and Jesus as our serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, did not write it which is BLASPHEME as I have shown your inept Bible knowledge!
2. Where do you get the authority to say that the previous original scriptures were not flawed as well since man still wrote them, and that you have never seen them, get it Bible fool?! Huh? Maybe? Fool!
3. Give actual peer reviewed substantiated knowledge that the scriptures were manipulated, mistranslated, lost, and were flawed by man, and not inspired by Jesus, because what is shown within the scriptures is what is taken as the truth for 2000 years and counting as the foundation of the faith, you blithering idiot!
4. Why are you a pseudo-christian at best when you downgrade the Bible like is shown above, and never being able to read the original manuscripts in allegedly righting the Bible to the truth????! WHY? It is hard to believe that you can call yourself a pseudo-christian when you tell us that the Bible is flawed and misrepresented, because it is all you have to support your faith dumbass pseudo-christian!
BEGIN, the membership is waiting:
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@Polytheist-Witch
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PolyWitch,
YOUR RUNAWAY QUOTE FROM THE TOPIC AT HAND: "What atheists do in the religion forum and call it debate. "
Just because my initial topic of my thread is WAY OVER YOUR HEAD to even try and discuss it, does not mean that Stephen, or any other Atheists, can debate said topic, of which you can only dream about in doing the same, other than you having to sit upon the sidelines and just watch! LOL!
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@Tradesecret
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TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a woman to a man, and then to unknown, and then back to a man, and then went to unknown again, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she/unknown follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT, and obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, an embarrassed LIAR of their true gender, and goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, has turned into a HYPOCRITE, and a LIAR, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, has now changed genders 5 TIMES in their profile page, and now has reading comprehension problems,
To the membership within this thread regarding TRADESECRET being the #1 Bible fool and runaway from Jesus’ inspired words, and the FACT that Tradesecret has entered my thread which makes it an "open season" upon them relative to the Judea-Christian Bible and the faith:
As we can all see I have easily Bible Slapped Silly®️ Tradesecret once again to the point where “she” cannot respond to my posts to “him” because of my superior Biblical knowledge over “her” grade-school knowledge of same. It comes with the territory of Mr. Tradesecret in what his “unknown” status thought they knew biblically, “she” didn’t.
When shown the past and present of Tradesecrets biblical bumblings, it is quite evident that “he” knew to cut his losses and remain SILENT to my posts to “her” within my thread herewith upon the topic at hand, praise Jesus!
Thus far within my thread, Tradesecret has to run away from the following posts that I have directed to “her” for obvious reasons and at “his” total embarrassment as usual:
Tradesecrets running away from Jesus’ inspired posts are not new to “him” because of the embarrassing following links showing that Tradesecret is the #1 runaway from Jesus’ inspired words with me alone from my post #182 to post #186 as shown below:
Jesus and I are pleased that Tradesecrets gender status of being a "female," a "male," and as an "unknown" has finally accepted the fact that I easily own all three of their genders when it relates to the Christian faith, praise Jesus!
NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS AS DUMBFOUNDED OF THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE, AND A RUNAWAY OF SAME, LIKE TRADESECRET, WILL BE …?
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@Stephen
@Tradesecret
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TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a woman to a man, and then to unknown, and then back to a man, and then went to unknown again, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she/unknown follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT, and obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, an embarrassed LIAR of their true gender, and goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, has turned into a HYPOCRITE, and a LIAR, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, has now changed genders 5 TIMES in their profile page, and now has reading comprehension problems,
Why are you so upset by Stephen affectionately calling you "Tradey?" What gives? If anything, Stephen should be more upset with YOU instead when you called him "Stevie Blunder," remember? Sure you do, HYPOCRITE PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN!
Listen, you have enough problems as it is within my thread, let alone you not being able to respond to my directly inspired by Jesus posts to you, other than to sheepishly run away from them because of the fact that I easily "schooled you" once again! Priceless.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen should be more upset with YOU instead when you called him "Stevie Blunder," remember?
LOL @ you Brother.
I have attempted to refrain from calling people names. I do slip up from time to time. Hence above I called Stephen a liar.
But even if and when I do stop - which I am attempting to do and will continue to endeavor doing so - we will still have you dear Brother to remind us of our old friend Stephen and his wonderful and delightful pet names. Stevie Blunder was truly a witty coin. wasn't? Thanks Brother.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Are you bored?
Bible Slapped Silly®️
He should have used ™ intead of the 'registered' mark because that would make it a trademarked phrase about tradesecret.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Why are you so upset by Stephen affectionately calling you "Tradey?" What gives? If anything, Stephen should be more upset with YOU instead when you called him "Stevie Blunder," remember?
Because just like scripture and Jesus the Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret is blind to his own double standards and hypocrisy , is why Brother. But you won't see me flagging him to the mods over it .
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@Stephen
Why are you so upset by Stephen affectionately calling you "Tradey?" What gives? If anything, Stephen should be more upset with YOU instead when you called him "Stevie Blunder," remember?Because just like scripture and Jesus the Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret is blind to his own double standards and hypocrisy , is why Brother. But you won't see me flagging him to the mods over it .
Not blind and actually very transparent. That is me. I have NOTHING to hide. I am what I am. Unlike you. The irony is I am ok with how I am presented by myself and on most occasions by you. Don't miss - my words, "on most occasions". Not a blanket statement.
You are the one who hides and chooses - intentionally to be hidden. It is you whom most of us ought to be wary of. And honestly, I think most are. The comments keep suggesting this.
The name calling is just troll methodology. I have acknowledged my part in that, an apology and an attempt at changing. You - just keep on mocking. The contrast is significant for the rest of us. Perhaps - for you - the log is too big in your eye to be able to see properly. But we will pray and wait.
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@Tradesecret
You - just keep on mocking.
BOO fkn HOO. Don't make me laugh, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.
Besides, you contradictory clown, I have referred to you as being a lot worse than your own chosen childish nickname and deservedly so, "Tradey". And you have taken it as a compliment.#61
The name calling is just troll methodology. I have acknowledged my part in that,[..........................] Perhaps - for you - the log is too big in your eye to be able to see properly.
For a defence lawyer you are absolute shite for leavening the door open for the prosecution Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete
I take it you are referring to that famous line supposedly spoken by the Christ? Here>.
"Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye".Matthew 7:5
So let us see who the real hypocrite is shall we;?
Who is it do you think said this about me when I had only been here a matter of weeks then Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete?
"The
serpent, satan, whatever - he is the accuser and you follow after
him. you are his disciple. From my point of view - he is slime. You
know like the stuff we find after a snail has passed by. creepy.
disgusting. Ugly." \ #24
And this:
"After all, you are the swine and the dogs that trample over the pearls. your comments to me are like water of a ducks back". #36
And you never really changed from that day have you? Your most recent being:
"Stupid
man. Dumb as fuck. Just continue to repeat your ignorance". #161
So don't come here quoting gospel to me when you are the one that Jesus himself is referring to when he speaks of "hypocrites!Matthew 7:5 Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.
And stop annoying the mods with complaints that I refer to you often by YOUR OWN chosen hypocorism , "Tradey".
Tradesecrete
wrote: Yes
you would love that - so you and the brother can say - Tradey is
running away again. #59
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6316-the-meaning-of-death?page=3&post_number=59
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6316-the-meaning-of-death?page=3&post_number=59
Off you go now.
Well it seems harassment it's okay as long as you don't do it with the Ku Klux Klan picture. Stephen knows what the limits are.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Well it seems harassment it's okay as long as you don't do it with the Ku Klux Klan picture.Stephen knows what the limits are.
Shame others do not though isn't it, Witch?
"The serpent, satan, whatever - he is the accuser and you follow after him. you are his disciple. From my point of view - he is slime. You know like the stuff we find after a snail has passed by. creepy. disgusting. Ugly." \ #24
"After all, you are the swine and the dogs that trample over the pearls. your comments to me are like water of a ducks back". #36
"Stupid man. Dumb as fuck. Just continue to repeat your ignorance". #161
"water off a ducks back" he says.
Yet our lovely charitable lawyer the Reverend"Tradey" likes to present himself to membership & moderation as a victim at every opportunity while ignoring and forgetting his own vile and uncalled for past victimisation of others. He just cannot stand being beating with his own stick.
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@Stephen
Hi Stephen
Thanks for being so awesome. But your words really cheered a sobbing guy up! Boo Hoo! but now hip hip hooray.
And thanks for reminding everyone of my words. Words which I own. Some of which I regret saying. But everyone that I own.
Now go and pat yourself on the back.
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@Stephen
Yet our lovely charitable lawyer the Reverend"Tradey" likes to present himself to membership & moderation as a victim at every opportunity
While I can't speak for the other mods... I haven't talked to Tradesecret since September, nor do I recall the last time he reported any posts.
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@Tradesecret
Thanks for being so awesome. ........Now go and pat yourself on the back.
You are the blowhard of the forum "Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecret. I am not the one that came here "swaggering" #204 and vaunting imagined theological "qualifications and accreditations" and titles to the www in a vain effort of impressing fellow members here in the misguided belief that this somehow gives you a higher - holier than thou - authority over all other members. I think its time for you to take the forest from your own eye, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.
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@Barney
nor do I recall the last time he reported any posts.
So you do actually know then who it is that flagged a post?
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@Stephen
You are the blowhard of the forum "Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecret. I am not the one that came here "swaggering" #204 and vaunting imagined theological "qualifications and accreditations" and titles to the www in a vain effort of impressing fellow members here in the misguided belief that this somehow gives you a higher - holier than thou - authority over all other members. I think its time for you to take the forest from your own eye, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.
Well I don't need to do any blowing. You do it for me. You have repeated over and over again what you think my credentials are to the forum. I don't need to swagger. Nor do I have to vaunt. I just need to continue responding to you - and I know without doubt, since you are so predictable, that you will see the need to again advance my cause.
I also don't think I am holier than anyone. As a confirmed Reformed person I actually take a low view of myself. I do think I am right. Otherwise I would think something else. But so does everyone on this site. The only people I see actually attempting to lord it over others on this site are you Stephen and the Brother. Even Zed, despite his faults, does not compare to you two. Still, it is also nice to see you emulating me. Using a recent phrase I borrowed from Jesus.
Nevertheless, Stephen, thanks for your concern. See even you have a heart.
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@Stephen
So you do actually know then who it is that flagged a post?
We usually don't keep records unless something really stood out, but until they are marked as reports handled we can see who in all filed any reports.
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@Tradesecret
You are the blowhard of the forum "Reverend "Tradey" Tradsecret. I am not the one that came here "swaggering" #204 and vaunting imagined theological "qualifications and accreditations" and titles to the www in a vain effort of impressing fellow members here in the misguided belief that this somehow gives you a higher - holier than thou - authority over all other members. I think its time for you to take the forest from your own eye, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret.Well I don't need to do any blowing.
I didn't pluck your own imagined "qualifications and accreditations " #204 out of thin air, now did I Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete.
You have repeated over and over again what you think my credentials are to the forum.
It is not what I think, is it? Your " qualifications and accreditation's" are what YOU offered freely to a forum of the WWW. Or are you saying that someone else offered all of YOUR personal information to the forum on your behalf?
I actually take a low view of myself.
Yes, I can tell,🙃 with all of the blowhard "qualifications and accreditation's" you appear to have awarded yourself.👏
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@Barney
So you do actually know then who it is that flagged a post?We usually don't keep records unless something really stood out, but until they are marked as reports handled we can see who in all filed any reports.
So I can take that as a yes then, can I?
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@Stephen
oooh -
you didn't name any this time. I hope you do next time. Oh wait you gave one. Probably the one you hate most of all.
Stephen, thank you. Thanks for caring. 😘
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@Stephen
Yes, I tend to know who for recent ones.
You can also expect less of your posts to get flagged for the next while (when reason failed on someone massively over reporting, removing their ability to file said reports succeeds).