What do you believe and why?

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I believe in naturalism which leads me to believe in naturalistic based philosophies such as metaphysical determinism and science. 

Naturalism is a foundation for accurately understanding the laws that govern the cosmos. 
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Such a juicy topic SECULAR! you want some Theistic material/beliefs?
In a nutshell I'll provide a couple links/descriptions so it doesn't seem like I'm just making crap up, spirituality has been around a long time so I don't claim to know anything new. I'm not strapped to any one set of ideas or religious doctrines either, I allow for all sources and forms of truth, and I evaluate them accordingly. These descriptions/beliefs below are pretty accurate.
Spiritism-
 "is a spiritualistic philosophy, science, and religion ; it proposed the study of "the nature, origin, and destiny of spirits, and their relation with the corporeal world".
"Spiritism postulates that humans are essentially immortal spirits that temporarily inhabit physical bodies for several necessary incarnations to attain moral and intellectual improvement. It also asserts that spirits, through passive or active mediumship, may have beneficent or malevolent influence on the physical world.."

What Jesus taught was more than some religious doctrines and a handful of impressive/unbelievable feats of miraculous events. Underlying the Gospel testimonies are a fabric of spiritual principles, illustrations, parables, examples, lessons and teachings that support the personal growth of the soul. This does not include every denomination or religious sect and what they believe. 
Christianity-
"the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices."

Vardankar-
 "is the most direct path back to God via personal experience in the pure positive God Worlds through out-of-body Tuza (Soul) Travel. It is not a religion, metaphysical system, or philosophy but does lead to the most profound and complete personal experience with God. Self Realization is not the understanding of one’s mind, emotions, or lower self but the experience of our true eternal God self Soul upon entering consciously the Soul plane or 5 th plane, which is beyond opposites, beyond the worlds of duality, and beyond matter, energy, time, space, and the mind and emotions of man."
"There are three purposes to VARDANKAR:
1. Self Realization
2. God Realization
3. Becoming a conscious co-worker with God"
 
This conception of the first Source is accurate. This is what it is and why we exist period. Everything in creation comes out of one Reality, including all individual souls.
Brahman-
 "it is the material, efficient, formal and final cause of all that exists.[2][4][5] It is the pervasive, genderless, infinite, eternal truth and bliss which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes.[1][6][7] Brahman as a metaphysical concept is the single binding unity behind diversity in all that exists in the universe
 is discussed in Hindu texts with the concept of Atman (Soul, Self)"

PanENtheism-
"Panentheism, also known as Monistic Monotheism, is a belief system which posits that the divine – whether as a single God, number of gods, or other form of "cosmic animating force" – interpenetrates every part of the universe and extends, timelessly (and, presumably, spacelessly) beyond it."
 (meaning "all-in-God", from the Ancient Greek πᾶν pân, "all", ἐν en, "in" and Θεός Theós, "God")[1] is the belief that the divine pervades and interpenetrates every part of the universe and also extends beyond time and space. "
"In panentheism, God is viewed as the soul of the universe, the universal spirit present everywhere, which at the same time "transcends" all things created."
"While pantheism asserts that "all is God", panentheism claims that God is greater than the universe. Some versions of panentheism suggest that the universe is nothing more than the manifestation of God. In addition, some forms indicate that the universe is contained within God."...….

BOTH are correct however....the universe is a manifestation of God as well all the universe is contained within God, and all the multi-worlds as well. There is nothing outside the Boss or what some refer to as "Brahman" or any of the other descriptions.

Buddhism-
"All Buddhist traditions share the goal of overcoming suffering and the cycle of death & rebirth, either by the attainment of Nirvana or through the path of Buddhahood."
Samsara
Saṃsāra means "wandering" or "world", with the connotation of cyclic, circuitous change.[85][86] It refers to the theory of rebirth and "cyclicality of all life, matter, existence", a fundamental assumption of Buddhism, as with all major Indian religions.[86][87] Samsara in Buddhism is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful,[88] perpetuated by desire and avidya (ignorance), and the resulting karma."
Karma-
 "the endless cycle of suffering and rebirth for each being. Good, skilful deeds (Pali: "kusala") and bad, unskilful deeds (Pāli: "akusala") produce "seeds" in the unconscious receptacle (ālaya) that mature later either in this life or in a subsequent rebirth.[118][119] The existence of karma is a core belief in Buddhism, as with all major Indian religions, it implies neither fatalism nor that everything that happens to a person is caused by karma.
A central aspect of Buddhist theory of karma is that intent (cetanā) matters and is essential to bring about a consequence or phala "fruit" or vipāka "result".[121][note 16] However, good or bad karma accumulates even if there is no physical action, and just having ill or good thoughts create karmic seeds; thus, actions of body, speech or mind all lead to karmic seeds."
 
WHY? do I believe any of the above? my answers would include direct, personal experience/observation, cross referencing with a variety of sources and applying spiritual practices/principles. I evaluate claims according to what I observe about reality and what makes sense.. Probably the same reasons why you believe what you believe only some things are acquired.

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Another concept the post wouldn't allow for I think is useful...
The Universal Mind-
"is a concept that tries to address the underlying essence of all being and becoming in the universe. It includes the being and becoming that occurred in the universe prior to the arising of the concept of "Mind", a term that more appropriately refers to the organic, human, aspect of universal consciousness. It addresses inorganic being and becoming and the interactions that occur in that process without specific reference to the physical and chemical laws that try to describe those interactions. Those interactions have occurred, do occur, and continue to occur. Universal consciousness is the source, ground, basis, that underlies those interactions and the awareness and knowledge they imply."



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@Mopac
you say that reality doesn't have agency
What I actually said is that it doesn't appear to and it doesn't appear to.

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If our perceptions accurately reflect reality then we can make certain inferences from those perceptions by observation of the scientific method.
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@secularmerlin
I said "if"
Also the scientific method is a way of obtaining knowledge. The Ultimate Reality is by definition greater than knowledge.

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Which testability is key.
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How do you test reality in a way that doesn't require us to presuppose our experience is real?
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@secularmerlin
Why can't we presuppose If such presuppositions are based on well established knowledge and predictable results? 




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@Reece
You can but that does not provide certainty about anything. If reality were an illusion how would it seem discernably different ?
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@secularmerlin
It provides accuracy if it's based on well established knowledge. Why are you even asking me that question? If anything, I should be asking you that. By the way, the answer is no, it wouldn't seem discernibly different. 
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If an illusionary reality is indiscernable from a real one how do we determine whether or not reality is an illusion?

It is convenient to accept reality at face value in order to maximize ones experience but in the end we cannot know.
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@secularmerlin
I agree. You can place this 'reality is an illusion' argument under the fairy tale argument. 

It comes back to testability.
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So if we accept reality at face value as a convenience we must accept also observable facts about our reality on a provisional basis. The best method available to us for accomplishing these observations is the scientific method. Scientific method relies on testability. If reality is real then science is our best shot at discovering truth. We are already preassuming reality so it's best not to preassume anything else. If it is not observably testable true there is no reason to believe even provisionally in any claim.
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If our experience is an accurate reflection of reality then science is the most reliable and practically useful method of separating fact from fiction. If our experience is not an accurate reflection of reality then we don't have any real way of separating fact from fiction. In niether case is there any sufficient evidence that anything is eternal.

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For the most part I agree. 

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It's hard to imagine agreeing with anyone more than that.
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If you're trying to get to the truth, I totally agree. If you have faith in something, then it's understandable.
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What I have is reasonable expectations based on past experience. If you have sufficient evidence you don't need faith if you don't have sufficient evidence why believe?

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An afterlife for example. It's understandable and reasonable for someone to want their loved ones to watch over them after they pass away. It might give them strength to carry on. 
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You mean a belief based on utility rather than truth? Of course people have the right to believe anything even if what they believe is not just not observably true but observably not true. I can no longer seem to manage this trick however. Beliefs are not a choice and I cannot simply choose to believe something which I have no sufficient evidence for. You say it comes back to testability, for me it comes back to skepticism.
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Utility, precisely. Manage what trick? Feelings are sufficient enough for some people to believe in relatively outlandish things.
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Feelings are sufficient enough for some people to believe in relatively outlandish things. 

This trick. My feelings have nothing to do with the truth and by acknowledging that I became unable to believe in the absence of evidence.
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I feel like we've met before...
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I feel like we've met before...
DDO > Ebuc, the extraterrestrial alien  \*\ /*/

* =  i  -verse i.e. ego = i

I-verse being the narrative we tell ourselves and others about ourselves.

SPACE(>*<)  i  (>*<) SPACE = generalizatiion of cosmic trinity

Positive shaped gravity ( )

Sine-wave frequency reality ><, ^v^v, /\/\/

Negative shaped dark energy )(.

2} Macro-infinite non-occupied space embraces/surrounds the following,

3} Finite, occupied space Universe.

123, ABC, thats how easy Universe can be.  M. Jackson tune { shake it, shake it baby }



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Rather than recreating this thread I thought I'd just try to resurrect it. By the way hi everyone I'm back at least for the time being. 

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I think I believe in "feelings". Generally speaking, they're part of my core belief. They're not outlandish and they do help in my decision  making. I think feelings are not part of balance or equality but rather they are just an ability to feel and to act charitably. For instance, acts of selflessness (i.e. altruism) are often accompanied by a will moved by feelings. In addition I believe them to be part of justice. Punishments and rewards should be levied in accordance with feelings.
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Your talking about moral intuition?
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Yes. I think it's one that is largely motivated by our feelings.
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@MarkWebberFan
Moral intuition is a feeling. It is our emotional response to what we subjectively consider to be right or wrong. It's that sick feeling you get in your gut when you think you have done something wrong or when you see someone else get hurt.