---Star Trek DS9 Mafia: DP2---

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@ArgentTongue
I'm too busy to walk you through it. I had the day off and fucked 2 different girls, not at the same time. Had some fun with friends and am now about to go play a pool tournament. I have no time to walk you through anything.  GP is definitely scum and it is definitely obvious to me. I'm not wrong about this and am never wrong when I feel this strongly. Thank you for pulling up some of budda's analysis.  Look at the feel of things. What does it feel like GP is doing? He sure as hell wasn't scum hunting, and why did somebody who is not susceptible to peer pressure cave to peer pressure in lynching a town read. He did not lynch a null read he lynched a town read, and he acted as if he knew Supa was town which is why he made a huge show of saying he disagreed with the lynch, while still being responsible for the lynch. Argent GP is scum, I'm never wrong when I feel this strongly . This reminds me of the game where likemagic and Danielle were scum and I was viciously going after them all game and everyone ignored me. I know for a fact GP is scum. I'm shocked it's only obvious to me. I feel like anybody looking at DP1 with all the new information should come to the same conclusion 
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GP is not a tentative read, I'll die on that hill.
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@ArgentTongue
Don't mock me . GP is scum, I told you to look at Budda's analysis. I don'the care what his reads at the end were I care that his earlier analysis had merit. When people die, especially good players we need to take serious their previous analysis, and their impact on the game should not be limited to the DP they died on. 
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@Wylted
I unvoted Supa and gave a reason why I thought he was town....for suiciding himself by voting himself...you poo-poo'ed the idea and twisted my arm to vote for him. The only reason why I voted last on supa was to confirm you were scum for leading and pressuring the lynch.
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@Greyparrot

I have always hated no lynches, and you are digging yourself deeper. You clearly town read me so obviously that was not some sophisticated trap. Keep leaving more hints, they might have been too dumb to catch the other ones, but if you persist they will catch you in one eventually 
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Greyparrot, you can attempt. To mirror me and match my certainty but it won't work. You aren't me, and sincerely is hard to replicate
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@Wylted
Also..please stop editing your posts. It makes you look scummy all on that alone.
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Wylted is obviously not town. There is no way if I was scum that I would pressure buddha as scum through most of dayphase1 and then tell my scumbuddies to kill buddha just for funs and giggles. Scum is obviously trying to set me up.
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@Wylted
I don'the care what his reads at the end were I care that his earlier analysis had merit. 
Then why exactly were you directing everyone to take a look at the final stages of DP1 for proof that GP is scum if by your own reasoning there is none there? It seems to me that this is a half-assed argument constructed out of desperation in order to get GP lynched. Your passion has no credibility, especially in the context of the game. If anyone is roped into this vote by sheer emotional content, they should think twice. 



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@ArgentTongue
Do you have a reading comprehension problem or are you just attempting to twist what I say. Budda's reads aren't important the points he brings up in his analysis are, but even that is irrelevant to the fact GP outted himself as scum through his actions. I'm just asking people to not be mentally disabled and to acknowledge what is painfully clear to anybody with half a brain.
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@Greyparrot
Why wouldn't you kill budda. He was the best player in the game at the time, and could actually lead town. I honestly thought they were going to target aporia for the NK, but perhaps he is silenced.


Aporia, if you are silenced see if you can still place a vote.

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Gp has like 30 posts those last five pages, and if you read all of them you should know he is scum. (Unless you are so stupid as to be sub-human)
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@Aporia
If you are silenced, you can usually still vote. Talk to Bsh1 to make sure you won'the be mod killed for doing so and vote GP please.
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Bsh1, can silenced players still vote to lynch
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I asked that dude like 5 questions and he has refused to engage. Do you have a non engagement policy with me now that I tried to get you replaced as mod? I failed, just like I failed when trying to beat you for president and like I failed in our only debate against each other. There should be no hard feelings against somebody you crush 100% of the time. I may consider you a rival, but I am unworthy of you to consider as a rival. Just engage.
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@Wylted
It would be a lot easier to engage with you in a reasonable fashion if you were not consistently insulting me. Has GP made a fair number of posts? Yes. Have they mostly been substantive? No. The vast majority of them are one sentence or less quips, not nearly the kind of material you can get in depth with. Even considering the broader picture, I still am unable to see this obvious trend in GP's behavior. Now I will ask you again, while still being decent and polite to you, please explain your hard scum read on GP. Do not insist that you do not have time, because if you had opted not to make a slew of small and irrelevant comments over a extended period of time, you might have been able to draft a meaningful response by now. Do not simply point me to sections in the previous DP, because I want to understand your logic, not analyze the content with my own. And Do not resort to insulting me further, because that is utterly pointless and a waste of time. You have the burden of proof because you are advocating that GP should be lynched. Appealing to your credibility and the conviction placed in your decision are not valid arguments, because this a game of deception. In the real world, I might take those into consideration. 

So I will iterate this again. No semantics. Just a straightforward response. 

What is the evidence and your line of reasoning on declaring GP scum?
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Am gonna be honest here. Don't really have time to wade through 700+ posts. If Budda or someone is willing to take over for me, I'm down with that. Alternatively, if the mod could extend the DP till this weekend, that'd be great. Really bad week for mafia,
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@ArgentTongue
I'll try my best with this shifty cellphone in a bar while not cross referencin specific posts. I understand his scum behavior because it matches my scum instincts. As scum you fear looking as if you are the driving force in a lynch on a town member. However you still want to be on the lunch if that is what it takes.  GP avoided that lynch because it seemed like it might go through anyway. He wanted to kill an extra town member and when it looked like he might not get lynched without grey parrot's vote, he jumped on the wagon to hammer. We also had to keep in mind that GP town read Supa earlier. We also had to keep in mind he was adamant about not joining any wagon that buddy was driving because of a claimed scum read on him. Did you see how much of a show GP put on about being against that lynch while simultaneously getting on the lynch?

I'd like you to pay attention to today's justification for getting on the wagon also. It makes no sense. He claimed to town read me last DP, especially after I asked about how the scum PM worked, but now claims it was a trap to prove me scum. Why would somebody who has a strong town read on me, create a trap to prove me as scum? It makes no sense because he is lying. 

We have somebody's actions, which are not consistent with his moves. He town reads supa, but lunches him. He town reads me, but lays a trap to see if I am scum.

He also has lesser scum tells such as announcing he is going to visit budda, who ends up dead. This is a common scum taxtic incase anybody tracks him or watches budda. 

Look GP is scum. Unless you can explain the contradictionsituation in his moves and his reads, than he should be a strong scum read for you as well






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What frustrates me is having to point this stuff out, and what is worse is that you guys will dismiss this stuff for some bulls hit reason. 
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Based on his modding style, how often does bsh1 put a fool/jester in his games?
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Sorry LM did not mean to tag you
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I think we should assume one doesn't exist. I'don't rather lose to a jester than entertain the possibility.  With that said I think BSH1 is more likely to use a group of jesters that all have to be lynched than to use a single one and let a win or loss happen that easily
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I played in a beginner game he modded where there were 3 jesters who all had to get lynched in order to get a collective win
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Working on a vote count now.

Time Check

About 30 minutes remain in the DP, but I may consider an extension, given what I see as I review the DP.
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I'll assume LM is town for now. 
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Scum isn't going to want an extension because right now it just looks like it will be a no lynch or GP
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We have 30 minutes can you guys start voting correctly please
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@Wylted
If a player was prevented by some role from posting, their ability to vote would depend on how their PM was worded. Their vote would still appear in the count, however, were they able to vote.
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Vote Count

Grey (3/6) - Wylted, Supa, Warren
Wylted (2/6) - Argent, DPR

Attention

Given the lack of inactivity, the DP will be extended for 24 hours. The DP will now end at 6:00pm, EST, on 11/14/18. All players having made fewer than 10 posts in the DP will be activity prompted.
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I'm glad he extended it. Scum team should have protested that decision hard behind the scenes