Transhuman/Posthuman theoretical improvements to humans

If we are "perfected", what is left for us to do?

The capstone of the sermon is the golden rule

The exact cause of schizophrenia isn't known, but a combination of genetics, environment, and altered brain chemistry and structure may play a role.

Schizophrenia is characterized by thoughts or experiences that seem out of touch with reality, e.g. Modifying humans to not require food or water 

The better answer, and one requiring nothing but change of heart regarding the human condition, and, better yet, offered two thousand years ago, but still not tried successfully, mostly because we think we know better, is the product of Jesus Christ in the Sermon on the Mount. Taking less than fifteen minutes to read, even for a slow reader, but still literate, this council given has in it the solution to every single social ill we suffer today, always have, and always will until these principles are embraced.

I say this without any cynicism, you have a point in this thread. I wish to see more of this content from you as opposed to the far-right stuff.

"Tribalism (Generates conflict that wouldn't need to exist otherwise. Loyalty to a group and group dynamics should be replaced with doing what is most logical/best. The amount of effort and resources spent on dealing with tribalism I'd guess is astronomical and a massive burden on the human race. We might have needed it for our little tribes back in antiquity. We certainly don't need it with massive civilizations)"

Sexual reproduction (A cumbersome experience that isn't yet optimized, and the methods in which partners are selected far are slowly becoming unnecessary due to the safety of our modern world and the fact that some aspects of mate selection are anti-civilizational. Could be made obsolete by objectively selecting best specimens independent of courtship and mate selection. Could also be made obsolete by dual-sexual humans/entities)

- Literal consumption (Modifying humans to not require food or water would clearly be of benefit. Perhaps transhumans/posthumans could generate energy through solar power or wind power. Perhaps something yet to be invented could be our source of energy, too)

- Metaphysical consumption (Humans dislike both discomfort (for obvious reasons) and comfort (generates boredom). Humans aren't designed to be satisfied with anything, and thus this creates a hedonistic treadmill that never satisfies humans. This becomes a problem when humans realize that their chasing will be endless and that there is no difference in death between chasing and not chasing. Add to that the concept of 'achievement' which is created first by the human mind creating problems (they build broken chairs to fix), and often the 'achievement' doesn't generate anything of real value (i.e. kicking a ball into a net doesn't make you less thirsty -- any derived benefit from kicking the ball into the net could be garnered somewhere else; the universe doesn't need you to kick the ball into the net). Rewiring the human brain in various ways could lessen or resolve these problems).

A need for the Divine (Religion solves a lot of problems humans have, such as avoiding a singular, flawed human being responsible for the creation of rules for a society to follow, and instead seemingly makes the rule maker a Divine entity who cannot be questioned. Humans also have a pronounced fear of the unknown, and the Divine entity solves that problem, too -- there are many benefits to believing in the Divine entity (religion was a positive evolutionary adaption). Of course, more educated civilizations start to realize they haven't proven such a Divine entity exists (or even can't), and suddenly people start to stop believing in such a Divine entity. Making humans better (particularly neurologically) may avoid the necessity for a Divine being to be believed in, and thus the problems that come along with it).

It's currently a royal pain to deal with humans. Rather than trying to endlessly change the world around us to suit human needs, why not start to change the needs humans have?

The op is under the impression that mankind needs some sort of saving from it's very nature. The hidden premise is that mankind is affected in a negative way by the system.

This conclusion of mankind comes from a type of thing that Sigma personalities will do. They feel like an alien in this world, and so they view society from an alien perspective. Mankind is looked down upon, because they are not a part of it, and since they see many problems in the world, they naturally feeling alien from their fellow man, will conclude they somehow are above man, and so they look at traits unique to human nature and call them bad.

Tribalism is seen as bad, because it hurts the system. I am going to dedicate another thread to exactly what I mean by the system, but let's just summarize for now as the current world order, that works to benefit itself and to maintain the power and autonomy of the people at the top, at not only our detriment, but to their own detriment as well.

The system is the matrix you heard about described by Morpheus in the movie The Matrix. It is not something you can taste touch or smell, but it surrounds you. It controls you, and you can only escape it by freeing your mind. Freeing your mind comes with it's own sets of problems as well. If you escape the matrix you still risk mind viruses that try to keep you from being free. That attempt to either pull you back in or enslave you in more insidious ways.

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The truth is mesmer, that the world you live in is like a cloak put over you to shield you from the truth. It isn't that people are bad. Being a human is not wrong. Human qualities, certainly are not bad just because they are inconvenient to the system/matrix. To hate human qualities such as tribalism are harmful to the system and the system alone.

the 3 main mind viruses are Nihilism, egalitarianism and solipsism are the things that enslave you, even if you break free from the system. Fortunately mesmer will never be at risk of the second mind virus, but she is at risk of being hit by the other 2.

The fact is that tribalism is what helps us connect with others. To feel we belong, to feel safe and important. Numerous studies have shown that we just work better in small tribes of 75 people at maximum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

Notice how Mesmer also equates logical with best and insinuates it is illogical to be tribal. This is not the case though. In tribes like I said before we feel connected instead of isolated like sigmas such as Mesmer. We feel loved, and we feel important. It is easier to feel important to a group of 50 close people of a tribe than it is to feel important to 5 billion fellow Earthlings.

There is nothing wrong with being human Mesmer, Inherently human qualities are good. Tribalism is good. Instead of fighting your nature.........enjoy it. Fuck like it is going out of smile, eat great food, enjoy the best sites and sounds. As an anti-natalist, you should realize the corect solution is hedonism. Enjoy life. Enjoy life, by indulging in your nature.

Society as it is, is meant to hide you from your nature, that is why people are anxious or depressed. We literally drug those people to make them feel better about being in a system they know is wrong. We have men cutting off their dicks even . These trannies do it, because they feel something is wrong and can't put their finger on it, so decide it is themselves. Trannies are not wrong though, they are just in the wrong environment and cutting off their dick and balls are not going to solve it.

Sexual reproduction is not cumbersome. It's fun to fuck. It is fun to pursue the opposite sex or be pursued. The ego trip seducing a beautiful person gives you, feels really good.

Could you demonstrate why transhumanism/posthumanism will always result in schizophrenia?

You are mostly right here about the solutions transhumanism will bring though. We will be able to stop the dysgenics going on now. Mothers used to be encouraged to kill genetic freaks, now they are kept alive and even reproduce to the detriment to our species as a whole.

This will be prevented soon by voluntary checks for defects and gene manipulation, while still in the womb. Positive eugenics is a good thing, as long as the people creating policies to encourage this can avoid absolutely correct accusations of practicing eugenics.

So far liberals have put planned parenthoods and abortion clinics in black neighborhoods and killed 50% of blacks prior to birth, a plan formulated by open eugenicist Margaret Sanger, and they have successfully eluded any legitimate criticism of being proponents of eugenics. This is despite the fact, they have no defense of it, as the results of these practices, speak for themselves.

- Literal consumption (Modifying humans to not require food or water would clearly be of benefit. Perhaps transhumans/posthumans could generate energy through solar power or wind power. Perhaps something yet to be invented could be our source of energy, too)

To What ends? The experience of eating, if not done in a way where you mindlessly lose control, is very good. Just imagine eating a delicious gourmet cheesecake, and sipping a glass of red wine. It's a very good experience. Consumption is not bad, in fact it is quite good.

- Metaphysical consumption (Humans dislike both discomfort (for obvious reasons) and comfort (generates boredom). Humans aren't designed to be satisfied with anything, and thus this creates a hedonistic treadmill that never satisfies humans. This becomes a problem when humans realize that their chasing will be endless and that there is no difference in death between chasing and not chasing. Add to that the concept of 'achievement' which is created first by the human mind creating problems (they build broken chairs to fix), and often the 'achievement' doesn't generate anything of real value (i.e. kicking a ball into a net doesn't make you less thirsty -- any derived benefit from kicking the ball into the net could be garnered somewhere else; the universe doesn't need you to kick the ball into the net). Rewiring the human brain in various ways could lessen or resolve these problems).

This is a major problem in modern society and one that is being medicated by psychiatrists, trying to hard code the brain with psychotherapy in combination with prescribed drugs. Maybe, like in the brave new world, we could prescribe everyone a happy pill that eliminates this, but it seems like something that would just work on the symptom, not the problem. The problem is the system.

Humans are happiest when they chase goals that are very hard to obtain. With pleasure just a mouse click away, it deprives us of this pleasure of the chase. You aren't explaining why chasing goals, endlessly is bad. You just expect us to accept that it is. We can see the quick dopamine hit of jerking off to porn harms us, the money handed to a prostitute for sex, doesn't satisfy us at all. What makes us happy is chasing what we want, and depriving ourselves of immediate and fleeting moments of joy.

When humans were tribal, there was no such thing as mental health issues. When your daily life is spent overcoming nature and barely surviving you are much happier. As an animal yourself, it is what you were meant to do. You are here today seeking a fight. Some part of you knows that a fight will make you feel alive. The stakes of these online fights aren't enough to make you happy though. It just hints at something that will make you happier.

What's unfortunate is that the seeking of security, probably stops you from having a fight with high enough stakes. You can have that fight though. Find a job that pays you for results and only results, become an entrepreneur, where every day is a fight to put food on the table or pay your mortgage. Anyone who plays sports for a living and other forms of competition can recreate that feeling. Do what works for you.

The human brain is fine. Become hedonistic. Everything that is not about you fighting for survival, should be about indulging your senses, love by being around the people you love, sexual pleasure by fucking like a porn star, taste by eating only the highest quality food. Exercise hard to get the feelings actual combat may give you.

Transhumanism should be used to meet the hedonistic imperative https://www.hedweb.com/ . However we should aim for the hedonistic imperative in a way that also doesn't merely just help make man more a part of the machine. Technology should serve us, not placate us so that way we can continue to be good slaves to the system.

A need for the Divine (Religion solves a lot of problems humans have, such as avoiding a singular, flawed human being responsible for the creation of rules for a society to follow, and instead seemingly makes the rule maker a Divine entity who cannot be questioned. Humans also have a pronounced fear of the unknown, and the Divine entity solves that problem, too -- there are many benefits to believing in the Divine entity (religion was a positive evolutionary adaption). Of course, more educated civilizations start to realize they haven't proven such a Divine entity exists (or even can't), and suddenly people start to stop believing in such a Divine entity. Making humans better (particularly neurologically) may avoid the necessity for a Divine being to be believed in, and thus the problems that come along with it).

Utter bullshit. You'll understand one day, but God is real. Religion may satisfy some things occasionally like filling in gaps of understanding, by assigning them to God. Sometimes those holes religion fill are bad or made worse by religion doing so, sometimes they are made better, but this is a completely different issue than the existence of a creator.

It's currently a royal pain to deal with humans. Rather than trying to endlessly change the world around us to suit human needs, why not start to change the needs humans have?

It's easier to be a sheep. It's also easy once you see the problems with the system, to merely exploit them to your own ends and live an incredible life doing so. It's one of the reasons why the system seems unbeatable. Those who awaken, often times feel it is easier to exploit the system than end it. It's a personal decision we all have to make, when we awaken. Fight the system or use our knowledge of it, to become wealthy, comfortable and loved. Easy doesn't mean better. I would prefer to make a system that benefits humans, than destroying and perverting humanity into some sort of clone of the " Brave new world" universe.

Could you demonstrate why transhumanism/posthumanism will always result in schizophrenia?

It's actually that transhumanism/posthumanism always results from schizophrenia.

You actually didn't click on that website did you? They basically argue the same sorts of things you do, but call the philosophy "the hedonistic imperative ".

I've read some very detailed books promoting the ideology. These are smart people who espouse the philosophy, I just feel they are wrong. I'll get into it more later, maybe tomorrow. 

Mesmer and their school of thought should at least stick to this idea rather than fascism which they're posting in their other threads.

1. Constantly, repetitively, make the other side seem as evil for a certain ethnicity or 'group' that is a minority that happens to be something that is taboo to demonise and which it is known many quietly resent.
   
2. Once you have achieved the angle that you're pro-free-speech and pro-quiet-majority, ensure to provoke the opposition, twisting absolutely everything they do and say to fit your portrayal of them. If, for instance, the Jews are rich, you need to make sure every way they flex their wealth to defend against your anti-semitism is itself fuel for your Fascist agenda rather than what it really is; them outplaying your attack on them defensively using what is at their disposal. Every single time they call you evil, point out how they demonise you and then proceed to instantly demonise them. Every time they correctly, accurately destroy you with facts, exposing your past and real agenda, you must simultaneously mix this duality of demonising them worse and using their very means to justify how much worse they are, do not defensively address anything they expose about you, dismiss it as communist disinformation.
   
3. Once in charge, begin to rapidly create a concept of 'fake news' and 'evil media' so that when you censor exactly as you protested against on your rise, you can avoid needing to yourself do it, the people themselves will enforce the start of pressure and push against such media. Eventually, you will of course need to censor but by that time only your supporters will be the ones with voices and media left to speak for them, making it convenient to do it without a single yelp of hypocrisy and tyranny on your part.
   
4. Alongside this, begin to move on from your original 'demon group' (in Hiter's case it was Jews) and begin to demonise the disabled, elderly who didn't retire rich enough to self-sustain entirely independently but not just them, that's not enough to make you seem as a leader pushing for strength, you need to notice what people see as weak, whether it's homosexuality or being deformed despite not being particularly disabled and prey on their hatred because that rage and spite is what will keep you able to remain in power, if you lose at any point revert to the demonising, perhaps saying 'rigged' and incite violent protests in your favour until those in power are forced to flex their power defensively and again can be demonised.