I don't like Evil's choice. It seems very OMGUS (something noob would do) as hell and now he's trying to jump a lynch on solely Whiteflame over it and not even reading into other options. FOS
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Slight town read on Drlebronski. I think he's rather defensive as town from my experience playing with him, so it doesn't deviate from his normal play
Right now I have Evil and Wylted in my FoS
Null on everyone
Slight town on Lebron
Lean town on Luna
Evil seems more likely to be scum than Wylted as this point of town. Wylted logic isn't the best, he also plays to win versus helping the site, so I do think he could be town depending, but for now it's a FoS
My townread of Evil is going away because of his over cautiousness. Very odd. Looking back Ig a scum Evil could OMGUS the same way as town Evil.
Town doesn’t have to clarify why they’re using “we” and “us.” Only scum worried about their image would use this - even more so from an inexperienced scum like Evil
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@ILikePie5
do you want to lynch supa. He is like
FOS on wylted, but he is also town?
Unvote VTL Supa
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@Wylted
do you want to lynch supa. He is like
You’re misrepresenting what he actually said.
Wylted logic isn't the best, he also plays to win versus helping the site, so I do think he could be town depending, but for now it's a FoS
Not even close to FoS on Wylted but he’s town
I voted for WF because I just wanted to rope him deep in the game and that’s all it is to it.. not an OMGUS at all.. tbh, don’t take anything that happens in DP1 seriously.
Unvote
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@Evilgenius
I voted for WF because I just wanted to rope him deep in the game and that’s all it is to it.. not an OMGUS at all.. tbh, don’t take anything that happens in DP1 seriously.Unvote
Let's look back at what you said previously.
You are on my scum pile already. Why do you wanna eliminate me? I’m Vanila.
That indicated to me (and apparently to others) that you were taking my VTL on you seriously. But hey, maybe we misinterpreted you. Maybe we were just reading too deep into the second line on this first post of yours in the DP. Let's look at the next one:
I am Vanilla & I’m suggesting that we lynch WF so as to have the game move forward. We( town) are still the majority so a little sacrifice won’t cripple us. This lynch will help us narrow down our scum target since reading anyone is very tough at this moment.
That very clearly discusses the pursuit of a lynch, not just an attempt to get me to engage more. Maybe just a bit of inconsistency? How about the next post:
Yes! A lynch is gonna give us many clues .. trust me on this
Huh. Doubling down on the lynch as a means to obtain information. Interesting. So, what did you just say again?
I voted for WF because I just wanted to rope him deep in the game and that’s all it is to it.. not an OMGUS at all..
That... looks awfully familiar. What did I say in response to your VTL again?
I'm spurring activity by roping you into the action.
So you're parroting what I said to get people off of you who are sussing you for the OMGUS. I was honestly going to hop on and say that I still townread you for the OMGUS response. That probably would've been your better move, whether you are town or scum. But this course reversal and effort to look clean doesn't sit well with me. You didn't do this with Disc when you had the chance two games ago, so where'd that self-righteous attitude go?
VTL Evil
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@Wylted
What Pie said. I have an FoS on you at the moment, but my read can change depending on your behavior throughout the game because I think what you are attempting is something I see you doing as town, but it looks scummy
VTL Evil
Lets get on with it
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@Wylted
@Vader
@Polyglot
@drlebronski
Vote Evil let’s go
Once again you are being led by mafia to lynch me. If I happen to be lynched on this DP please I want everyone to look CLOSELY at these two who are pressing hard to put me up on the chopping block. I’m vanilla and this misguided wagon is an effort to eliminate town.
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@Evilgenius
You haven’t answered my question
VTL EVIL
to the chopping block.
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@Evilgenius
Once again you are being led by mafia to lynch me. If I happen to be lynched on this DP please I want everyone to look CLOSELY at these two who are pressing hard to put me up on the chopping block. I’m vanilla and this misguided wagon is an effort to eliminate town.
Mind explaining the sudden shift in strategy for voting? Or providing some reason why I'm mafia? You are the one who said both that I'm apparently mafia and that you were just roping me in with your vote.
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@Lunatic
Vote evil
I don't think evil is scum. What benefit does his strategy aid scum? It's kind of like poly in last game, it is so dumb its probably town.
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@Lunatic
I don't think evil is scum. What benefit does his strategy aid scum? It's kind of like poly in last game, it is so dumb its probably town.
I don't think his strategy does aid scum. I also don't think that Evil is terribly likely to play this tightly from a behavioral perspective. I get the impression that he responded as normal to me and pushed a lynch that definitely wasn't going to happen. He then shifted behaviors when he realized that people were sussing him based on his attempts to push the lynch. I don't see him giving up on the lynch that easily as town, but I do see it as entirely plausible that his scum partner would convince him to give up on the lynch and that he would gravitate towards similar reasoning to mine as a means to back out of it.
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@whiteflame
I won't dispute the logic, but there's certain players I think are likely to make these mistakes as town, and I happen to feel like evil will be a mislynch here. Not that he's a particularlly great loss either, and if he is mislynched it would be hard to blame anyone on his wagon. My only alternative remains pie however for earlier stated reasons, so I realize that may not be especially convincing to everyone.
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@whiteflame
I get the impression that he responded as normal to me and pushed a lynch that definitely wasn't going to happen. He then shifted behaviors when he realized that people were sussing him based on his attempts to push the lynch
Actually, If you acknowledge the lynch wasn't likely to happen though, what real motive does he have as scum to push it? Feign activity? I mean he has put less effort than this before, and usually omgus's people as town. The effort to get the ball rolling here kind of looks townie. He's getting voted because of it, and considering how many times he has been mislynched lately I don't necessary blame him for shifting positions.
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@Lunatic
Actually, If you acknowledge the lynch wasn't likely to happen though, what real motive does he have as scum to push it? Feign activity? I mean he has put less effort than this before, and usually omgus's people as town. The effort to get the ball rolling here kind of looks townie. He's getting voted because of it, and considering how many times he has been mislynched lately I don't necessary blame him for shifting positions.
My impression, as I said earlier, is that his OMGUS response to me is just what he normally goes for, whether as scum or as town (hard to say if that's true because we haven't seen him as scum, but we have to infer as best we can). So, no, I don't think his goal was to feign activity. I think his goal was just to get frustrated that there was a lynch on him, and, as with Disc, push a lynch on the person he dislikes as a result.
I wouldn't have blamed him for eventually hopping off of the lynch. Hell, even his doing it now isn't particularly sus. It was more the excuse he gave - that he was just trying to rope me into the game - that stands out. That's clearly not what he was trying to do, and it's also virtually identical to what I told him after he sussed me for VTLing him early on. It's the nature of the decision to hop off the lynch, not so much the fact that he did hop off of it, that makes him sus to me.
Unvote vtl evil
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@Wylted
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@drlebronski
is that a punishment emoji?
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@Wylted
correct
I meant penis
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@Wylted
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@whiteflame
can we lynch lebron. I think at best he will just troll the game. At worst he is scum
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@Wylted
dude all i did was post a penis emoji?