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@SkepticalOne
My hopes are not high.I agree, Castin.It seems the right and the left each have their own agenda each time something like this happens and are unwilling to let the chips fall where they may in a serious evaluation.I'm tired of the games...its time for our government to be occupied by individuals who are not quite so fearful.
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@ethang5
I like American culture.The only culture liberals hate, is American culture.- Ann Coulter
Not necessarily all of it, of course, but I don't think many people like everything in American culture.
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@Castin
I wonder if that has anything to do with you NOT being the run the mill liberal?I like American culture.
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@SkepticalOne
This is the same mentality and tactic as the racist.I'm tired of the games...its time for our government to be occupied by individuals who are not quite so fearful.
I'm tired of the games...its time for our government to be occupied by individuals who are not quite so inferior.
Both of you assume your conclusion in your premise.
The last thing the American government needs is more people like you, who view common sense as fear. Can you not see the chaos and death that mindset has already wrought?
The liberal way used to be OK, but the world changed. It's time you guys woke up and smelled the kebab.
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@ethang5
Anne is in the running to be crowned the stupidest person on the planet. Beware she may be after your crown. LOL
I'm tired of the games...its time for our government to be occupied by individuals who are not quite so fearful.This is the same mentality and tactic as the racist.I'm tired of the games...its time for our government to be occupied by individuals who are not quite so inferior.Both of you assume your conclusion in your premise.
That makes no sense, and your rant about liberals didn't explain it. Perhaps you could calm yourself and try again with less vitriol.
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@ethang5
Holding liberal views doesn't mean someone is a hypocritical democrat or whatever. You really don't know much about someone because they say "liberal". Different people come to their conclusions differently than you do.
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@ethang5
How can you be sure you're not importing criminals and terrorists if you're not willing to stop immigration altogether? The truth is you can't. Either this hasn't occurred to you, you aren't willing to accept it, or you're hiding your true position.Nonsense. We had immigration for decades without fear of terrorist incidents.How many times did a Japanese burst into a nightclub shooting people? How many times has a Dutchman attacked the police with a knife? How many Icelandic terrorists have rammed a car into a crowd?
Newsflash: we do these things to ourselves. You are picking and choosing facts that reinforce your preferences against "them" (as you perceive it) and ignoring that which makes them look just like us (as you perceive it).
And all of a sudden we can't be be sure we're not importing criminals and terrorists we stop immigration altogether? What changed?
In spite of propaganda to the contrary, there are no absolute measures. No matter what you do, you cannot guarantee safety.
I take it you realize your standard eliminates more than you thought.And so what? No immigrant has a right to enter America. So what if Abdul is denied entry? So what? My standard eliminates moron terrorists. How is that a disadvantage?
The aforementioned comment regarding a failed standard ( which you've taken out of context instead of admitting error) was "Ones where women are not cattle and body parts are not lopped off for blasphemy."
I say again - Saudi Arabia: they behead for blasphemy (and other crimes) and women are not extended all the same rights as men. So either Saudi Arabia needs to be added to your 'no immigrants' spiel, your standard should change, or you have double standands.
Merit based immigration and strict controls over areas of concern.That's probably the best we could hope for.And that is precisely what the liberals reject.
Relevance?
Right. So no measures should be taken? Is not 95% safety better than 40% safety even if 100% is impossible? Safety cannot be guaranteed but it can be improved.In spite of propaganda to the contrary, there are no absolute measures. No matter what you do, you cannot guarantee safety.
So either Saudi Arabia needs to be added to your 'no immigrants' spiel...
Please stop being silly. You asked and I answered. If a country fits the answer, then its in. I do not need to list the countries one by one.
And I did not say "no immigrants", please don't lie.
Perhaps you could calm yourself and try again with less vitriol.
I am calm, notice that unlike you, I'm not lying. Disagreement with you is not vitriol. Address the argument, not the man.
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@ethang5
Bear in mind that these "terrorist" organizations opposed to the US are screwed if they don't come up with a way to weaken American military support.
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@Plisken
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American military support for what?
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@disgusted
American culture.Oxymoron?
Except on national holidays, and the hour of need. America is more of a shared idea and there is no American culture, but Americans are cultured.
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@ethang5
Right. So no measures should be taken?
I've not suggested no measures should be taken. What I want to know is what end your measures hope to achieve, is this goal a statistically significant problem, and is it worth the effort?
Is not 95% safety better than 40% safety even if 100% is impossible? Safety cannot be guaranteed but it can be improved.
A society willing to exchange their freedom for safety deserves neither, and this is what we as a society are doing more and more. I hope I never see the day when we are as safe as you would prefer.
So either Saudi Arabia needs to be added to your 'no immigrants' spiel...Please stop being silly. You asked and I answered.
Actually, you didn't answer:
So, places like Saudi Arabia (one of our allies) is unacceptable?Are you trying to be obtuse, or are you doing it by accident?
And I did not say "no immigrants", please don't lie
Of course, you didn't say that! You are more than willing to allow 100 immigrants of the world entry into the US. Its very generous of you! You're a regular immigrant advocate! 🤣
Perhaps you could calm yourself and try again with less vitriol.I am calm, notice that unlike you, I'm not lying. Disagreement with you is not vitriol. Address the argument, not the man.
Taking comments out of context and failing to explain your position (as the comment challenged) is total integrity and nothing but pertaining to the argument (that you didn't address), no doubt.
It looks like we've arrived at that part of the conversation where ideas are no longer discussed, so I bid you adieu.
A society willing to exchange their freedom for safety deserves neither,
What freedom are we losing by keeping Abdul in his country? Do you read what you post?
I hope I never see the day when we are as safe as you would prefer.
Sure. You think the deaths are worth it for immigration. But you can't say why. You can only spout liberal platitudes.
Actually, you didn't answer
Actually, I did. You asked what country. I said any place that treats women as cattle. You note that Saudi Arabia is such a place, and stupidly ask again if Saudi Arabia is such a place. Again, are you trying to be obtuse?
Saudi Arabia is an ally f the US. So what? Am I the govt? Am I pushing the govt line?
And I did not say "no immigrants", please don't lie
Of course, you didn't say that!
Then it was dishonest to say so.
You are more than willing to allow 100 immigrants of the world entry into the US. Its very generous of you! You're a regular immigrant advocate!
You seem to be operating under some silly assumption that you cannot explain. Why do we have to let immigrants in? Can you say? Or are you going to just pretend your assumptions are true and we have to take your word for it?
It looks like we've arrived at that part of the conversation where ideas are no longer discussed, so I bid you adieu.
Lol. Look over the convoy. You dodged every question of mine. You never explained why we need immigrants or why its so important that its worth the death of our citizens
Your liberal lame arguments got no play here, so you're running. Go ahead, your argument was vacuous PC liberal talking points.
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@ethang5
According to a study based on the Global Terrorism Database, in 2017, 37 of 65 terrorist attacks in the United States were tied to right wing extremism, 11 attacks were tied to left wing extremism and 7 attacks were tied to Islamic extremism.[3]
We just gotta stop all them right wing extremists growing in the good ole SUA, they think that thang doesn't know they are actually immigrants in tea towels cos the look just like all the good ole boys in tea towels.
Stop them immigrants cos they kill fuck all, subsidise the good ole boys cos they kills heaps.
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@ethang5
I like American culture.I wonder if that has anything to do with you NOT being the run the mill liberal?
Not sure. I think the environment is a priority, I want weed legalized, I'm fully accepting of LGBT, I have very un-conservative ideas about sex and "promiscuity", and in general I'm an empathy thinker. Aren't those all standard liberal values?
I think the only thing that's different is I'm sick of PC culture.
Those are social values. You differ mainly in your political values.
I have very un-conservative ideas about sex and "promiscuity",
No matter where I've found myself, among conservatives or liberals, girls like you were most popular.
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@Castin
Is 'PC' a media invention? I've never met anyone who is in favour of PC; the 'PC brigade' are like ghosts - something people worry abut but don't actually exist.
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@keithprosser
That's begging for its own thread. Begging.
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@ethang5
Social and political has always been a blurry line.
I think its reasonable to think you and others exist from the posts you make. You aren't a ghost.....the 'PC brigade' are like ghosts - something people worry abut but don't actually exist.
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@Castin
I still perceive a big difference between your type of atheist and our troll emeritus.Social and political has always been a blurry line.
I agree. But I hope we wait till our troll who clutters every thread with vitriolic nonsense gets banned. The more interesting the topic, the more irritating troll droppings in the thread are.That's begging for its own thread. Begging.
(Oh, and in my post before I meant to say, "He" still did. Not "I" still did.)
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@Castin
A typical PC story is that a school doesn't do a nativity play at Christmas because of 'PC'. A great many people then get so say how 'PC has gone top far' but there is rarely a report of anyone who actually objects to the play; it was cancelled because of imaginary complaints from the imaginary 'PC brigade'.
OK - that may not be the whole story in every case, but I am damn sure most 'PC' stuff is way, way overblown; its essentially a form of self-censorship.
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@keithprosser
Shut up and make the thread, I must have it. I am literally getting angrier with every second that passes without that thread existing.
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@ethang5
Well it seems like the major contrast is just our personalities.I still perceive a big difference between your type of atheist and our troll emeritus.
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@ethang5
Still deathly afraid I see. Now cite some vitriol you loser. bwuahahahahahahaha
Poor Castin couldn't find any of her hatred see how you go useless.
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@Castin
I'm shy... you start it.
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@Castin
Yeah I refuse to suck up to anyone.
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@keithprosser
I'm shy... you start it.
Hey it's not my claim! 😄