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@Wylted
I say we lynch speed to test the hypothesis, seeing as he is the less active of the 2 and if I am wrong we save the doctor. Help me 

Unvote VTL speed
The cancel culture hypothesis? You mean the hypothesis that my justification directly invalidates? I'm not opposed to a Speed lynch, though at the moment, I'm still having trouble understanding why Evil is not the obvious lynch based on what we know. We shouldn't be testing anything at this stage. It's 5-2 and another mislynch will put us at 3-2. We should be exceedingly careful.
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No fake claims will be given as this is a broad theme with thousands of fake claim options.
Also lunatic clearly said it will be easy to fake claim. I doubt scum would claim there own roles knowing there is a theme split. 
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do I have to go through recent posts of lunatic to show he also hates cancel culture. His whole defense of me and getting me unmanned was a sort of crusade against site cancel culture.

This is a top of mind thing lunatic is passionate about
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we test it with speed, if speed is guilty supa protects me, while I track him.

If I am dead than I think it's obvious what happened. If I am alive, I can clear him and we have 2 confirmed town players
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You sound okay with a speed lynch. That's all I need from you. Help me there please
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@Wylted
I seriously don't buy this at all. Cancel culture has, in some way, affected virtually every major comedian these days. I don't see how the separation can possibly be a clean one for Ken Jeong and John Mulaney, especially given some of the stories I've read about them.
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@Evilgenius
amy was talking about when she was raped. This is a different incident, where she did the raping https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/snl-bill-burr-backlash/
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those two have said that cancel culture was basically a good thing and that comedians need to change with the times. Hold on I will pull up some stuff from them. They side with cancel culture
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Two people not touched by cancel culture, while Bill burr says he can't be touched by cancel culture only because nobody gives a shit about him. 
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I'm willing to consider the lynch on Speed, though with 4 claimed Vanilla, I'm starting to buy that there are likely 3 in this game. We have a claimed Tracker, Doc and something else from Poly. At the very least, we know that Poly wasn't on the NK and didn't do anything, which supports his case for being RB'd. The trouble here is in not knowing what Pie was.

If we assume he was a PR, then that makes it more likely that one of the three claimed PRs I've covered above is lying, and that's most likely Supa since Wylted and Poly have somewhat inadvertently made it more likely that each of them is town. His partner is either Speed or Evil.

If we assume he was Vanilla, then it's either Speed or Evil because they both claimed Vanilla roles with new characters after the start of this DP and neither had given softclaims in the previous DP. It would probably be both of them because they'd be firmly aware that the rest of the claims would all be PRs and this was the only way to blend in. I still believe that Bill Cosby stands out quite a bit more as a claim than John Mulaney, so I'd prefer a lynch on Evil.

That being said, I would be OK with a lynch on either Speed or Evil, since my POE says that at least one of them is scum. I'm far less certain of Supa.
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@Wylted
Alright, I didn't have a good picture of what you meant initially, but that makes more sense. The only problem I see is that niggling fact that scum has a town claim from the Pie NK. Supa was basically locked into his claim by the end of DP1 on the basis that he'd claimed Doc, so Ken Jeong was already his claim by then, which means that Speed got Pie's claim, refused to actually use it as his own claim (since that's the only way this theory works - he would have had to claim his actual character), and instead relied on our inability to discern the theme split. I find that a little hard to believe.
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@whiteflame
you lack some common sense here
 All of these comedians have not just been randomly affected by cancel culture. There were huge attacks on Dave Chappelle and Bill burr on by woke culture. Louis ck was jacking off in front of people and Bill Cosby raped, both got canceled. Amy Schumer got canceled by the right-wing. These aren't just random woke culture attacks. If you Google comedians canceled by woke culture, these are the first names to pop up, and lunatic gives a shit about this subject and deeply so. This theme split needs to be taken seriously
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I say they stole pies role and Don't know his character, and that speed is letting g his partner claim pie's role.

On top of that, because of pie's high activity, they probably fucked up and thought he was a power role but accidentally stole a vanilla role. 

I think occam's razor suggests the above is close to the truth
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I also suspect that lunatic is a dick and the scum team does not have a blocking role, but instead I am flavored to block who I track
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lynch speed please. 
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@Wylted
you lack some common sense here
 All of these comedians have not just been randomly affected by cancel culture. There were huge attacks on Dave Chappelle and Bill burr on by woke culture. Louis ck was jacking off in front of people and Bill Cosby raped, both got canceled. Amy Schumer got canceled by the right-wing. These aren't just random woke culture attacks. If you Google comedians canceled by woke culture, these are the first names to pop up, and lunatic gives a shit about this subject and deeply so. This theme split needs to be taken seriously
I don't doubt that it's a plausible split. I'm having trouble understanding how it fits with scum's strategy. They had a town claim served up to them on a platter, but they chose to ignore it in favor of claiming their actual character. The only reason they might do that is if Pie had a role that is easily confirmable, but even then, they could at least claim his character. I don't see why Speed would risk claiming Mulaney if he was at all worried about us discovering the theme split is as you say it is. I have a much easier time buying that Mulaney is Pie's claim and that he's partnered with Evil, with whom they tried Bill Cosby because they knew they could get away with it at that point.
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I don't think you find out town's characyer when you lawyer them am I wrong about this?
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@Wylted
I say they stole pies role and Don't know his character, and that speed is letting g his partner claim pie's role.

On top of that, because of pie's high activity, they probably fucked up and thought he was a power role but accidentally stole a vanilla role. 

I think occam's razor suggests the above is close to the truth
I'm willing to consider it. I honestly hadn't thought that they might not get his character. For now, at least, I am in agreement with you that Speed is likely on a scum team (or at least that it's him or Evil), and that lynching him would at least give us essential information for figuring out who to lynch in the next DP.

VTL Speed
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Yeah I think speed is the best compromise. It works for both of our theories, plus in my theory it is safer not losing the doctor
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@Wylted
I don't think you find out town's characyer when you lawyer them am I wrong about this?
It's Janitor, not Lawyer. Here's what I read about it:

"Usually, but not always, Janitors will learn the role and alignment of the players they kill even if they clean up the body. Whether this information is revealed to the player or to the team at large is also up for debate."

So, at minimum, they learn the role. It doesn't say anything about character, though there might be variants of this role that do include getting the character. In any case, I buy that it's plausible that they don't have any secure fake character claims.
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there are like a million comedians so easy to fake claim. Lunatic likely did not provide one

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going to take a stab in the dark here. I bet pie's character was kevin hart
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@Wylted
I’m down for a speed Lynch today. He was my next FOS after you. 

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VTL Speedrace 
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Sorry guys. I dug deeper. I still believe in my theory, but Kim jeong was canceled for anyi Asian jokes funny enough, while Amy Schumer has been a leading voice in woke culture and has stated on shows such as the view, that the comedians who got canceled deserved it.

I think speed and greyparrot are scum

I think I will be alive next dp, but if I am not. I repeat

Speed and Greyparrot are the last 2 scum
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gp and speed are both lazy enough to post real characters as well
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theme split I think is canceled comedians vs woke comedians

Please lynch speedrace
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Sorry for calling Ken jeong woke guys. I am glad to hear he isn't.  I really like that guy
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@Wylted
I think Mulaney's a better fit for your theme split than either Schumer or Jeong, tbh.
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he is the best fit. That's the reason I feel more comfortable on speed here