Pokémon Indigo League Mafia - DP 1

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100% sure they are related, 95% sure the relationship is grandson-grandfather.
Ya I just looked it up and they’re abuelo-nieto. I think it’s worth pursuing. Bron claimed relatively early and Oro had to soft claim cause that’s his meta. It’s conceivable both as scum just claimed their real roles.
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Are Gary Oaks and Professor Oaks related?
Professor Oak is Gary Oak's grandfather.

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I still think bron is scum I just unvoted because his train died.
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If it's something like non speaking characters for mafia, then there will be like 2 mafioso. We also need to consider Charzard was with Ash the whole time, it evolved from Charmander. 

but why is having a physical presence in the show what determines whether a character is in this or not? And wouldn't that oddness also make it a strange choice for a fake claim?

If the theme is something like pokemon trainers vs pokemon, then the Narrator won't work. The Narrator isn't a person, or a human. They don't have a character. Also the second half is WIFOM.
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VTL Bron

Let's make this wagon great again.
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I rather lynch whiteflame or Pie.
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Or Discipulus_Didicit 

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I don't think any enabler has ever been a [character] enabler rather than a [role] enabler and I don't think it started now.
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What are your thoughts on Bron and his claims?
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Or Discipulus_Didicit 
Why do you scumread Disc?
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I think its plausible. I doubt it is something a new player would come up with.
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Mostly due to his character claim. I'm also not entirely convinced by his justification. 

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I think its plausible. I doubt it is something a new player would come up with.
I think he’s the optimal lynch today tbh. It likely confirms Supa if he’s telling the truth, which would be a big help in terms of POE.

As for his role, it’s likely his scum partner supplied it to him.

Mostly due to his character claim. I'm also not entirely convinced by his justification.
Don’t know much about Mewtwo, but I don’t think his lynch has more utility than a Bron lynch. I doubt Poly would’ve put a town enabler for a scum meaning it’s very very likely Supa is confirmed if Bron is town.
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I think he’s the optimal lynch today tbh. It likely confirms Supa if he’s telling the truth, which would be a big help in terms of POE.

As for his role, it’s likely his scum partner supplied it to him.

So is Ash mafia?
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So is Ash mafia?
If Bron flips scum then Supa should be sussed.

If Bron flips town then Supa is essentially confirmed town since Poly likely wouldn’t put a Town Enabler for a Scum PR.
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If Ash and Professor Oak are scum then mafia might be something like people from Palette Town. I'm not entirely convinced but it warrants an investigative role to look into. 
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If it's something like non speaking characters for mafia, then there will be like 2 mafioso. We also need to consider Charzard was with Ash the whole time, it evolved from Charmander
I’d agree with this.

If the theme is something like pokemon trainers vs pokemon, then the Narrator won't work. The Narrator isn't a person, or a human. They don't have a character. Also the second half is WIFOM.
Except that that would exclude others as well. Professor Oak, Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny are not Pokémon trainers. It’s not unusual for a setup to be X vs. others, I don’t see why that couldn’t be the case here. I would disagree that the Narrator is not a character as well. Not being a physical presence and not being a character are two different things.
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Earth (1/6) - oromagi 
ILikePie5 (2/6) - Lunatic, Wylted
drlebronski (1/6) - Discipulus_Didicit
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Except that that would exclude others as well. Professor Oak, Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny are not Pokémon trainers. It’s not unusual for a setup to be X vs. others, I don’t see why that couldn’t be the case here. I would disagree that the Narrator is not a character as well. Not being a physical presence and not being a character are two different things.
Debatable. 
The point being is that the Narrator doesn't have a character. He just doesn't. He's not Ash's dad or whatnot.
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Considering that we don’t know who Ash’s dad is, that’s not saying much. I don’t disagree that the Narrator is a distinct character, I’ve said as much. I disagree with the notion that its distinction makes it inherently more suspect. Many of these characters are distinct in a variety of ways. We could come up with a half dozen or more plausible theme splits and have many or even all of these characters on each side depending on the criteria we use.
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I've been very adamant to not trust drlebronski's claim from the start since it's such a vague fake claim to make and have put him on my scum list because of it and yet you are applying this logic. If I were scum, why would I tell a noob to claim a vague character Enabler to make it seem like we are confirmed. Use some thought. There is literally no winning. I have a suspicion of drlebronski because he said Ash, and everyone knows Ash and it's quick and easy to assume Ash would be in this game and it happens to be I am Ash. I didn't out myself til I was the last claim like was told. In fact why wouldn't I tell him to just claim that Enabler with my fake role claim I make. 
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I've been very adamant to not trust drlebronski's claim from the start since it's such a vague fake claim to make and have put him on my scum list because of it and yet you are applying this logic. If I were scum, why would I tell a noob to claim a vague character Enabler to make it seem like we are confirmed. Use some thought.
I know. It’s very unlikely but ultimately an option most likely worth a couple of percentage points to quantify it.

There is literally no winning. I have a suspicion of drlebronski because he said Ash, and everyone knows Ash and it's quick and easy to assume Ash would be in this game and it happens to be I am Ash. I didn't out myself til I was the last claim like was told. In fact why wouldn't I tell him to just claim that Enabler with my fake role claim I make. 
I think if he’s town, you’re 95% town which is likely as close to confirmation you can get

If he’s scum then a further investigation is warranted but ultimately I doubt y’all would link yourselves like that so you’d more likely than not be town.

Either way I think a lynch on Bron is the optimal play here because it can confirm another player and the claim just strikes me as a claim scum would make if they though the weird mechanic wouldn’t be looked at a second time just because it’s weird.

VTL Bron
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Debatable. 
The point being is that the Narrator doesn't have a character. He just doesn't. He's not Ash's dad or whatnot.
In plays and stuff, a Narrator is practically a character. They don’t have to act or do much but it’s still a major part to play imo.

Either way I think this discussion is doesn’t matter much until you put out what the connecting factor is between WF and another individual and their character.
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I am gone for the evening mostly, playing node war. Lynch pie! Don't let him have you lynch ash the main fvcking character lol
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Do not listen to pie. for the love of god. please dont. 
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I am gone for the evening mostly, playing node war. Lynch pie! Don't let him have you lynch ash the main fvcking character lol
I don’t want to lynch Supa? I don’t know where you got that from
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Do not listen to pie. for the love of god. please dont. 
I would really appreciate it if you stopped making false accusations about me…

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Haven’t seen you in a while

Any thoughts?
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I'm trying to catch up
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