Pokémon Indigo League Mafia - DP 1

Statistics are just what they are. Statistics. I’ve already said that I’m willing to find other alternatives, which kind you, I have been trying to do. Hell I let a claimed Miller just recently live till endgame because there were better lynches.

And my vote hasn’t been on one person the entire time….

So you’re not willing to do anything until a mass claim is finished. Ok. Then Ig it’s my job to stop you on this foolhardy mission and get you back to Earth to start some behavioral analysis.

Please give reads on each player. Thank you.

And when that character is so far fetched we decide to lynch them and then they come out as Cop. Back to square one?

What role I have definitely plays a role in how I play. Saying otherwise is simply not true.

Ok let’s think about this. Let’s assume all 4 of you are town. There are still 4 people left. Assume 2 are PRs. 50% chance scum hits a PR. Now with your character lock, it’s a 100% chance they hit a PR because they know the characters that are likely to be power roles. At the expense of what? Locking scum into characters. Ok.

Then why are you responding to me. Practice what you preach before telling others what they should do.

That’s a long time ago. But anyways, I apologize if that’s what I said. 

I never said town isn’t capable of mistakes. I don’t mind it at all. But make mistakes over and over again is what gets me. Especially if you’ve played in the past and aren’t a noob anymore.

Oh my a claimed miller was actually town! Gee, what a wonder! And you let him live?!

Hard to do a whole lot of behavioral analysis when we are waiting on people to post, and the only two people contributing to the game are me and you.

My reads aren't solid, but I'll place disc, earth and oro in the null/town pile, and everyone else in null. Like I said earlier I am going to be on high alert for vets/noob combos in whiteflame, you, wylted, and supa. Starting to town read supa a bit though, so I would say I am not neccesarily suspicious of, but cautious of whiteflame, you and wylted, and I would like to see some more from earth and evil genius to assess if they have any part of a noob/vet combo here.

Your turn.

The new have cop outed, because they didn't fake claim smartly. Worst case scenario here is our protective role will have to play smart with an outted cop. It's not like the cop is gonna get policy lynched. At least if I have anything to say about it.

Well I am kind of saying the same thing, but you are twisting it a bit. Point is if you are town end game is to lynch scum. It doesn't make sense to lose interest because you aren't being handed results on a silver platter though, I am saying boring roles like vanilla should make you more invested because you can play with caution to the wind a bit more. If scum kill you as a vanilla its a net benefit to the town because they didn't hit a power role. If you are cop and trying to stay under the radar you might not be as willing to make yourself shine in the spotlight. I just don't understand the concept of getting bored because you don't have a power role, and I think it indicates a weakness that shows you rely on results or your role assisting town over trying to actually assess someone and meet that goal I mentioned earlier.

Awesome, you are almost making my point for me but missing a couple pieces of the puzzle. We can both agree that 50% odds of hitting a power role are not good. Where you are wrong is the 100% chance of hitting a power role with a mass claim, because now scum has to gamble with doctor protections, etc. As scum I might be more willing to target a player I would think no one would be protecting then I would be to go straight for the claimed main character who could be an investigative role. How do you think greyparrot got away with claiming power roles dp1 and surviving til late game all the time? Mafia are too afraid to get their kill blocked. The best case scenario is no claims dp1 and let mafia shoot in the dark here imo, but that was already fvcked up, so we go with the next best option and punish mafia the same way town is being punished by POE.

I have in the past, and unfortunately I think its just making your ego worse.

The more you get the last word the more you will continue to be stubborn and obstinate. I stopped responding to you several times in destitution mafia so we could get back on track. That said I will ignore you when others start posting and I get a better direction to focus. As of right now I have nothing better to do than to logically own you so why not?

Oh my a claimed miller was actually town! Gee, what a wonder! And you let him live?!

Welcome to America, land of the free and home of the brave.

The new have cop outed, because they didn't fake claim smartly. Worst case scenario here is our protective role will have to play smart with an outted cop. It's not like the cop is gonna get policy lynched. At least if I have anything to say about it.

So the tracker gets lynched right? Who does that benefit? Also if the claims are far fetched it also makes it obvious to scum they are lying.

I have no incentive to play until endgame when critical thinking and POE come more into play with various scenarios. Until then scum can kill me or leave me alive as Vanilla. Win for town either way.

So scum also know who the Doctor is and kill them first. Redirect, RB, Bus Drive the Cop and move on with their lives. Mafia are more than happy to keep a Cop alive just like you did. Scum know the roles of the town and their own roles to use effectively. 

It doesn’t lol. I’ll keep responding to you until I fall asleep. If you want to keep cluttering the DP, I’ll gladly oblige. Or we can wait until you get your 6 people like civilized people and move from there. I’ve already pinged half the people.

Turns out I was kinda right in Destitution wasn’t I? 

You can keep cluttering the DP until you get your 6. No problemo. I’ll just continue to do some work and await your response and then go to sleep and then start the cycle over tomorrow.

I am taking your non-sensical remark here as a concession that you realize it is silly to pursue policy lynches on millers lol. 

What?! No we don't lynch a claim tracker you goof... What? Are you suggesting you would lynch a tracker after he admits he fake claimed to blend in? Are you crazy?

Endgame in DART meta is more of a POE fest, as both scum and town, you get better bheavioral analysis early game especially with how role heavy DART is. Day Phase one is the day to play as a vanilla.

You make lengthy responses sound like a threat. You know me. I find them fun and a way to pass the time. When it comes time for others to get on and post I'll happily ignore you and focus on others, but until then you are just threatening me with a good time.

About what? We were both voting misterchris lol. I also suspected you, but there wasn't a whole lot of point in debating with you what did and didn't happen. You were basically denying reality, and inventing a reality that denied you were inactive or complacent. And I had said that if Chris flipped scum I would have less reason to suspect you, so debating with you back and forth was kind of pointless. If you were scum I wasn't going to convince you of that, of course you would fight that tooth and nail. There was no point in further discussion until the flip, and we were both right.

Sounds good. We will collectively be the bane of town's existence. And I'll carry the blame proudly whenever I get a vig as a power role in a game and kill you dp1. Even if you are a town power role. At least I can save town from the stupidity. :)

No. I still think they should be lynched given no suitable alternatives for the sake of POE and avoiding a headache at MYLO.

Oh no no. If a Cop fake claims a character that is the Tracker’s character, who do we lynch. Neither? Then we’re back to square one with even more confusion.

Nah it’s just stupid wagons like the one on Wylted. Waste of my time. You want to put in the effort go ahead. Once you die, I’ll take over.

Good, I’ll have a great time tonight too when I fall asleep.

About Chris being scum for the reasons I described that matched his scum play in previous games.

Well in that case I hope scum can redirect you away to the Miller or any other SOP claim :)

He totally missed that part and it’s obvious now what your role is ..

What are your thoughts on the mass claim

 I called him as cop dp1, and knew he was cop for a fact dp2. The more POE you give scum to work with by pressuring people for claims, the more of an advantage you give them. 

In the case of those two characters I ecourage town to fake fake claim smartly. 

This is not true. Wylted agrees with me.

It would be anti-town to attempt to do that because you could be CCed instantly. And when you flip town as a freakin Cop wtf.

Don't be a royalpaladin. We've dealt with enough of them over the years and it is pretty tiring. 

cult up with any belief regardless of the lack of logic behind it should have been the fact that your still a fervent Trump supporter

Earth literally complied the best way he knew how, and you got caught up in semantics. His wincon statement said he was vanilla town, which also happened to be his role. Earth complied exactly as was asked and town misunderstood him and punished him for it. And the not reading his claim correctly was such a retarded reason to lynch him. I happily boarded it because I was scum, but even as scum I defended how stupid that lynch was for a bit because that's what I would have done as town. One dimensional thinking results in mislynches that you can easily just pin the blame on the mislynchee while refusing to acknowledge or grow from it at all. 

As for the second game, he was playing the game drunk and claimed while so and then was forced to change his claim later.