Pokémon Indigo League Mafia - DP 1

Author: Polyglot

Posts

Total: 534
Evilgenius
Evilgenius's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 67
0
0
4
Evilgenius's avatar
Evilgenius
0
0
4
-->
@Wylted
I’m with you on mass claim 
Polyglot
Polyglot's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 327
1
2
5
Polyglot's avatar
Polyglot
1
2
5
Official Vote Count

Discipulus_didicit (1/6) - Wylted
Earth (3/6) - ILikePie5, whiteflame, oromagi 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@Earth
Okay let's just roll with this, because earth has a budding wagon, and will likely claim when he get's on, so lets just popcorn the remaining claims.

We are popcorn mass claiming. 

I'll start. I am Pikachu, which is why I don't dis-believe the MewTwo claim, since I am also a pokemon. 

I popcorn earth for the next claim. Earth when you claim, popcorn who you want to go next.
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@oromagi
Can I put your soft claim on the claims list? Character at least, since you made it pretty obvious I'd be surprised if mafia didn't already figure it out. 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
Claims

Oromagi- (waiting on oro to confirm I can post his)
drlebronski- Professor Oak- Enabler for Ash
Discipulus_Didicit- MewTwo- Miller
Lunatic- Pikachu

Unclaimed

Earth- Up next for popcorn
ILikePie
whiteflame
Wylted
Evilgenius
SupaDudz



oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
oromagi                          Misty
TOWN
Discipulus_Didicit      MewTwo          MILLER
Lunatic                           Pikachu
 ILikePie
whiteflame
Earth

Evilgenius
SupaDudz
 drlebronski         Professor Oak         ENABLER
Wylted
SCUM

LAZY VC

drlebronski (1/6) - oromagi
Discipulus_didicit (1/6) - Wylted
Earth (2/6) - ILikePie5, whiteflame 


oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@Lunatic
Can I put your soft claim on the claims list? Character at least, since you made it pretty obvious I'd be surprised if mafia didn't already figure it out. 

Depends on the mafia.  I'm convinced half the players just skip right over my little soft claims.
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@oromagi
Depends on the mafia.  I'm convinced half the players just skip right over my little soft claims.
I usually glance at them, but half the time I am unfamilar with the theme so they don't mean much to me. This time it was pretty obvious lol
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
oromagi                          Misty
TOWN
Discipulus_Didicit      MewTwo          MILLER
Lunatic                           Pikachu
 ILikePie
whiteflame
Earth                               ???
Evilgenius
SupaDudz
 drlebronski         Professor Oak         ENABLER
Wylted
SCUM

LAZY VC

Discipulus_didicit (1/6) - Wylted
Earth (3/6) - ILikePie5, whiteflame, oromagi 

Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,984
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@Lunatic
I understand that but I am questioning the ability for you to decipher scum if in only 2 posts, you believe I can be in scum pile. If you were to say that now, I would take no issue into that statement since I had made claims that can warrant a read. 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@Vader
I understand that but I am questioning the ability for you to decipher scum if in only 2 posts, you believe I can be in scum pile. If you were to say that now, I would take no issue into that statement since I had made claims that can warrant a read. 
I don't have you in my scum pile, actually. I just said those are the players I will be wary of this game, not because you did or said anything specifically, but because you are experienced players and are more likely to come up with better fake claims, and blend in etc. I am expecting at least one veteran player, maybe two, but at least one and a noob at the very least. 

My read on you is actually switching a little bit as the conversation goes on though, I feel if you were scum you would be more likely to back off of me. The only times you really suspect me are when you are town. 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Lunatic
come on bro don't be a dick 
I’m asking nicely lol. He was the one that said he was drunk and didn’t read his PM properly
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Lunatic
I think earth and evil genius should be participating more, but I don't know if I want there claims. I will say if people are pressuring earth for a claim we need to just mass claim at this point. Because this benefits mafia greatly to have 3 claims dp1, so if we are going to hurt town with POE, let's also hurt mafia with POE.

Anyone with me on this? That's my vote. We either stop pushing claims now, or we mass claim. 
Definitely no mass claims. We only have two claims right now and third I’m pressuring as a policy. 
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@ILikePie5
I’m asking nicely lol. He was the one that said he was drunk and didn’t read his PM properly
I mean if he was denying any fault or doubling down about the mistake, I'd say unleash all the dickish hell on him lol. But he seemed aware of the mistake, and was already beating himself up over it ya know lol
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Evilgenius
Well , I’m very new to the game and I’m learning about everything now. I’m curious to know and researching on some other characters.. What’s an ENABLER? Seen that being thrown out quite a few times 

Oro posted a brief summary of what the role generally is like. Mods sometimes like to put their own twist on it
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Lunatic
I mean if he was denying any fault or doubling down about the mistake, I'd say unleash all the dickish hell on him lol. But he seemed aware of the mistake, and was already beating himself up over it ya know lol
Then he shouldn’t have a problem with a character claim. 3 character claims are enough for me imo. 

Let me ask you a better question. Who do you want to lynch today and why?
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@ILikePie5
Definitely no mass claims. We only have two claims right now and third I’m pressuring as a policy. 
Too late. I am already going for mass character claim. There is a wagon on earth and inactives, and already 4 plus claims. This gives mafia too much POE to work with. If we are going to force multiple claims like this, we need to do it in a way that also benefits town, so let's lock in claims from mafia. When they are forced to role claim they will have to cater a role to whatever desperate claim they came up with. Any of my fellow pokemon nerds can pick up on inconsistencies with these claims.

We either had to stop at 2 claims, or go full mass claim here. Ya'll want to keep pressuring people, this is the way to do it that doesn't fully fvck town over. 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Vader
Everyone is null with a slight town lean on Wylted. While I disagree with Wylted's logic, Wylted as town is not fond of the Miller role and goes on the same shpeel as before.
I agree with this assessment.
Lunatic
Lunatic's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 8,944
3
3
6
Lunatic's avatar
Lunatic
3
3
6
-->
@ILikePie5
Then he shouldn’t have a problem with a character claim. 3 character claims are enough for me imo. 
We already have 4 claims, Earth isn't one of them. So at this point mafia already have a lot to work with. We are mass claiming now.

Let me ask you a better question. Who do you want to lynch today and why?
Not sure yet, day is still young. Game literally isn't even 24 hours old yet. Let's slow it down and play this thing by ear. Right now I am going with the mass claim, and we can see where we are after that. 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Lunatic
Too late. I am already going for mass character claim. There is a wagon on earth and inactives, and already 4 plus claims. This gives mafia too much POE to work with.
There were 3 characters before you claimed. There is literally no point to popcorn cause it does virtually nothing. All it does is reveal who town power roles are, which are probably main characters

If we are going to force multiple claims like this, we need to do it in a way that also benefits town, so let's lock in claims from mafia.
I didn’t see you scum reading anyone for behavior which is rather odd. What do you have against pressuring for claims. Disc SOP claimed and Bron claimed for no reason cause he’s a noob.

When they are forced to role claim they will have to cater a role to whatever desperate claim they came up with. Any of my fellow pokemon nerds can pick up on inconsistencies with these claims.

We either had to stop at 2 claims, or go full mass claim here. Ya'll want to keep pressuring people, this is the way to do it that doesn't fully fvck town over. 
We were stopped at two claims until you decided to reveal you knew Oro’s character and posted your own character lol. 


ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Lunatic
We already have 4 claims, Earth isn't one of them. So at this point mafia already have a lot to work with. We are mass claiming now.
How do you know the 4 people are town lol

Not sure yet, day is still young. Game literally isn't even 24 hours old yet. Let's slow it down and play this thing by ear. Right now I am going with the mass claim, and we can see where we are after that.
No mass claim lol. You’re just helping mafia lol. They know all the characters it’s even easier for them to pick the likely PRs to kill.

Your strategy is literally contradictory lmao
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Earth
Do not claim anymore please.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
There were 3 claims before Lunatic decided to declare a mass Town claim without even consulting the rest of town.

Assuming all three were Town there were 3 other townies assuming 2 scum. Scum would’ve had no clue who was who out of the three even had a power role. If one of the 3 claimed town was scum it’s an long shot in terms of probability that scum could hit a power role.

Now Lunatic decides with a mass claim he’s just going to put everyone’s claims out so scum have a pretty good idea of who’s the power role. Rather odd coming from a person who goes off of behavior. Not one behavior analysis done yet
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@ILikePie5

-->@Lunatic
We already have 4 claims, Earth isn't one of them. So at this point mafia already have a lot to work with. We are mass claiming now.
How do you know the 4 people are town lol

Not sure yet, day is still young. Game literally isn't even 24 hours old yet. Let's slow it down and play this thing by ear. Right now I am going with the mass claim, and we can see where we are after that.
No mass claim lol. You’re just helping mafia lol. They know all the characters it’s even easier for them to pick the likely PRs to kill.

Your strategy is literally contradictory lmao
triple lol + one lmao!


Fucking terrorist!
Wylted
Wylted's avatar
Debates: 34
Posts: 5,754
3
4
11
Wylted's avatar
Wylted
3
4
11
-->
@ILikePie5
The problem isn’t that he claimed. It’s SOP to claim. If he claimed Miller at L-1 it’d be scummy af

See post 39 for why that is wrong.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Earth
@Wylted
@whiteflame
@Evilgenius
Please do not claim.
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@ILikePie5
so first you're begging us to pressure Earth for claim and now you're begging Earth not to claim?  While you are still VTL'ing him?  How does this make any sense?
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@oromagi
triple lol + one lmao!


Fucking terrorist!
They’re in Afghanistan 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,159
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@oromagi
so first you're begging us to pressure Earth for claim and now you're begging Earth not to claim?  While you are still VTL'ing him?  How does this make any sense?

I forgot to unvote 

And yes. I had a reason to pursue Earth’s claim. Now with Lunatic’s idiocy or whatever you want to call it, we’re giving scum a silver platter to choose who they wanna execute
Discipulus_Didicit
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Debates: 9
Posts: 5,758
3
4
10
Discipulus_Didicit's avatar
Discipulus_Didicit
3
4
10
Not sure I like the enabler claim. Like others have pointed out the enabler is usually "You are the [role] enabler" not "You are the [character] enabler".

technically possible that this is not a scum slip but I am willing to bet that it is.

VTL drlebronski