At what point is it far enough for you right-wing nutjobs to call it racist and too far?

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How is wylted still on this site?
Cause he has done nothing wrong

hes made countless anti-semitic, and racist threads yet no action has been done the one time he did get banned everyone complained say they can just debate him and free speech. 
It’s a debate site. We should encourage controversial opinions. Otherwise it’s just an avenue for groupthink which is taught to be harmful in virtually every field. If you don’t like it, argue against it or ignore it.

Ilikepie people do not choose to be offended i don't care about your anecdotal if one called a random black the n word over and over the black person would probably be offended. 
People do choose to be offended. Someone calls me a dumbass over and over, I could careless. Name calling a part of life. Get over it and be an adult. Ignore it and walk away. At some point they’re gonna get tired of it.
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is black people being monkeys a claim we should look into it being true or not?
Why don’t you challenge them to a debate?
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Cause he has done nothing wrong
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It’s a debate site. We should encourage controversial opinions. Otherwise it’s just an avenue for groupthink which is taught to be harmful in virtually every field. If you don’t like it, argue against it or ignore it.
if someone made  a thread calling all black people the n-word would you just say "it's a debate site". 
should we just not ban anyone for hate speech???? if that happened this site would end up looking like ddo "all gays should be killed" "black people aren't human"
People do choose to be offended. Someone calls me a dumbass over and over, I could careless. Name calling a part of life. Get over it and be an adult. Ignore it and walk away. At some point they’re gonna get tired of it.
there's a difference between calling someone dumb and calling someone the n-word or a fa___t.
this is a little anecdotal of me but if i was called a fag____t i would be offended.

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if someone made  a thread calling all black people the n-word would you just say "it's a debate site". 
should we just not ban anyone for hate speech???? if that happened this site would end up looking like ddo "all gays should be killed" "black people aren't human"
All 3 are protected by free speech under Brandenburg v Ohio. Believe it or not, being racist is legal. Hate speech laws are the ones that are unconstitutional.

there's a difference between calling someone dumb and calling someone the n-word or a fa___t.
this is a little anecdotal of me but if i was called a fag____t i would be offended.

Cause you want to be offended. It would have no impact on me. I’d just ignore it.
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seriously dude? OF COURSE YOU WOULDNT BE OFFENDED!!!!!???? ARE YOU PANSEXUAL?????
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Can you find me people who want to be offended? Outside of BDSM that is.
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seriously dude? OF COURSE YOU WOULDNT BE OFFENDED!!!!!???? ARE YOU PANSEXUAL?????
Nah I’m a person who doesn’t care what others think about me
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Can you find me people who want to be offended?
There are a bunch of people in this thread. Not gonna name names obv
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People who claim to be this:

Nah I’m a person who doesn’t care what others think about me
tend to get all riled up when a guy like me shows up, genuinely lives by their ethos and yet supports a mainstream cause anyway, despite them pressuring me not to.

In fact, this is the only place I have ever come across where opposing racism and other putrid shit is in fact a controversial stance, so it's kind of the only time it matters to me to say it. Most of the Internet and world is thankfully moving on from prejudiced outlooks, slowly but surely. Thank whatever god(s) that exist for that.
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ok??????? i dont much either. its not that they think of me as bad or evil its that they call me it do you know how mental health works????? did the thousands of trans people who commited suicide due to bullying want to be offended????? even then not eveyone doesnt care what people thnink.
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Can you find me people who want to be offended?
There are a bunch of people in this thread. Not gonna name names obv
Interesting, I can't find any.

Maybe you could give a clue where the intent to be offended is shown.
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tend to get all riled up when a guy like me shows up, genuinely lives by their ethos and yet supports a mainstream cause anyway, despite them pressuring me not to.
Who said I support it? I support one thing and that’s free speech.

In fact, this is the only place I have ever come across where opposing racism and other putrid shit is in fact a controversial stance, so it's kind of the only time it matters to me to say it. Most of the Internet and world is thankfully moving on from prejudiced outlooks, slowly but surely. Thank whatever god(s) that exist for that.
And this type of political correctness and groupthink pressure led to Donald J. Trump.
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ok??????? i dont much either. its not that they think of me as bad or evil its that they call me it do you know how mental health works????? did the thousands of trans people who commited suicide due to bullying want to be offended????? even then not eveyone doesnt care what people thnink.
Again. Your mental health deteriorates if you care about what others think. Stop caring. It’s why everyone is taught to ignore bullies. Cause once they realize their shit isn’t working they won’t take the effort to do so.
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Lol, you mean the piece of shit for President that made the whole world hate the US? That was due to those that saw him for the racist, childlike-strategist that he was?

Alright.

Can you name one nation that likes the US more than it used to thanks to him? Israel, maybe? Any others? 

India only pretended to like him so they could use him, I'm sure even you can agree to that.

Trump is a fucking joke, like he's the epitome of what not to do as a president and candidate. Just a sore loser celebrity who accidentally found his way in a seat of power he had not the slightest clue how to handle.

As leader of one of the most powerful nations on the planet, the headlines produced by all non-US nations were anti-Trump, even right wing papers were generally anti-Trump abroad. No one fucking liked the man, not as a person or a leader. The only people who think they like Trump are either scum themselves or just voted and appreciated him for being a deviation from the norm of an 'evil establishment' in their eyes. Trump is a spoilt brat who inherited everything he claimed was his own achievement, he is the epitome of establishment, the only anti-establishment thing about him is he was openly racist in 2016 and was a moron with no experience. George W. Bush was a moron with experience, in case you were about to point him out.
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It’s why everyone is taught to ignore bullies. Cause once they realize their shit isn’t working they won’t take the effort to do so.
Have you actually ever been bullied? These are the cringe statements and advice that get given by people who've never been bullied a single day of their life.

Even on this website alone, when I block and ignore bullies, I still get taunted even for that ignoring. This is the truth. Ignoring sometimes works but isn't always optimal at all, it depends on the bully and scenario.
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Have you actually ever been bullied? These are the cringe statements and advice that get given by people who've never been bullied a single day of their life.
It’s not me, it’s PhDs on KidsHealth lol.

Even on this website alone, when I block and ignore bullies, I still get taunted even for that ignoring. This is the truth. Ignoring sometimes works but isn't always optimal at all, it depends on the bully and scenario.
Then you ignore that too 🤦‍♂️.

How long are they gonna continue engaging you if you don’t engage them lmaoo
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Oh and your stance on American politics has always been irrelevant to me. I don’t need a red coat to tell me how I should be thinking about American politics.  We kicked y’all out of our politics for a reason lmfao

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Then you ignore that too 🤦‍♂️.

How long are they gonna continue engaging you if you don’t engage them lmaoo
Ironically, I do that. However seeing 8 upvotes on some rude remarks about me blocking people and then being disallowed to make a pun about zedcvictor being a pussy chasing me around if he calls me a rat, is the kind of thing that's pretty impossible to ignore.
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heee haww look at you, a son of immigrants from India supporting someone who himself along with his most avid followers hates your fucking guts, then preaching about 'your opinion doesn't mean shit if you aint a true homegrown american'.

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
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Ironically, I do that. However seeing 8 upvotes on some rude remarks about me blocking people and then being disallowed to make a pun about zedcvictor being a pussy chasing me around if he calls me a rat, is the kind of thing that's pretty impossible to ignore.
See that’s your problem. You have to ignore it. It’ll solve all your problems.

heee haww look at you, a son of immigrants from India supporting someone who himself along with his most avid followers hates your fucking guts, then preaching about 'your opinion doesn't mean shit if you aint a true homegrown american'.

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
Lol I was born and raised in American. I am American. You’re a red coat. Gtfo of my face lmaooo.
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Lol I was born and raised in American. I am American. You’re a red coat. Gtfo of my face lmaooo.
Trump and his supporters would never ever, not for one single second consider you a true American. One day you will realise that and it will make you sick the fact you supported someone who hates the very thing that your ancestors were and that you are; a naturalised citizen and a birthright citizen who lack roots in the subjectively determined 'original ethnicity' of that place.
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Trump and his supporters would never ever, not for one single second consider you a true American. One day you will realise that and it will make you sick the fact you supported someone who hates the very thing that your ancestors were and that you are; a naturalised citizen and a birthright citizen who don't have roots in the subjectively determined 'original ethnicity' of that place.
This is the ideology that is purposefully defeatist. What has Trump done for me? A lot of things that elitists like you would never understand
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He hasn't done a damn thing. If nobody was around, he'd spit on you and call you some rude things and tell you to go the fuck back to Pakistan even though your ancestors are from India.

You haven't the slightest clue about the man you are supporting and the agenda he represents. One day, I hope you do understand and that it does make you truly disgusted at your former self for supporting the frontrunner of potentially the most far-right outright stated agenda America has seen since the original days of slavery.

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can u unblock 4 1 sec?

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If someone is serious about...
ANY SYSTEM OF JUSTICE THAT RELIES ON DETECTING MOTIVE AND OR SINCERITY IS FUNCTIONALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM WITCHCRAFT
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off topic personal attacks and/or hate speech...
Presumably ON-TOPIC personal attacks and or hate speech is well within bounds.
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Trump and his supporters would never ever, not for one single second consider you a true American.
Dinesh D'Souza seems to be pretty well respected in TRUMPTOWN.
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can u unblock 4 1 sec?
The number of times you've blocked other users should show in your profile info.

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Fake alliance. Nazi gangs will often even trade drugs with non-whites while they need to before completely turning on them as soon as they can, in a brutal manner.

This is nothing more than Trump and his cohort accepting they need to mask their racist agenda with one or two non-caucasian 'allies'. Don't be fooled.
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This is nothing more than Trump and his cohort accepting they need to mask their racist agenda with one or two non-caucasian 'allies'. Don't be fooled.
I'm pretty certain you can still be friends with people of other races, even if you are generally a racist.

You'll often hear people say stuff like, "you're one of the good ones" and this doesn't necessarily mean they're poised to skewer you for dinner.