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@Greyparrot
Everyone has vastly different risks from Covid. Getting a vaccine isn't necessary for the people that are at .01% risk or less.
Well stated.
you can't name one good reason not to get vaccinated
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@3RU7AL
where's the link to the actual study.
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Second, do you have any idea how a vaccination functions ?A vaccine uses a weakened version of the biological threat which ONLY prompts your own immune system to recognize the threat.It is impossible for a vaccine to be any more effective than exposure to the actual, full strength biological threat.I also have a close personal friend who is the same age as myself, who has been vaccinated and they have been sick and unable to work since last April.
My ideas as to how vaccines function are not relevant. I am not an expert on the subject. Your claim that it's impossible for a vaccine to be more effective than immunity from exposure is not consistent with the results of the study. Your anecdote, even if it is true, carries little weight as it is a single case.
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@dfss9788
where's the link to the actual study.
Overall, 246 case-patients met eligibility requirements and
were successfully matched by age, sex, and date of initial infection with 492 controls. Among the population included in the
analysis, 60.6% were female, and 204 (82.9%) case-patients
were initially infected during October–December 2020
(Table 1). Among case-patients, 20.3% were fully vaccinated compared with 34.3% of controls (Table 2).
20% of 246 = 50
50 is a ridiculously small sample size.
Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 has been documented, but
the scientific understanding of natural infection-derived immunity is still emerging (5). The duration of immunity resulting
from natural infection, although not well understood, is suspected to persist for ≥90 days in most persons.
The findings in this report are subject to at least five limitations. First, reinfection was not confirmed through whole
genome sequencing, which would be necessary to definitively
prove that the reinfection was caused from a distinct virus relative to the first infection. Although in some cases the repeat
positive test could be indicative of prolonged viral shedding
or failure to clear the initial viral infection (9), given the time
between initial and subsequent positive molecular tests among
participants in this study, reinfection is the most likely explanation. Second, persons who have been vaccinated are possibly less likely to get tested. Therefore, the association of reinfection and lack of vaccination might be overestimated.
Fourth, although case-patients and controls were
matched based on age, sex, and date of initial infection, other
unknown confounders might be present.
For example, weight and general health were not considered.
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@dfss9788
My ideas as to how vaccines function are not relevant. I am not an expert on the subject. Your claim that it's impossible for a vaccine to be more effective than immunity from exposure is not consistent with the [INCONCLUSIVE] results of the study. Your anecdote, even if it is true, carries little weight as it is a single case.
Your ideas as to how vaccines function are EXTREMELY RELEVANT.
Even a small child is capable of understanding the basic mechanism.
Also, I revealed my personal experience, not to "convince you" but rather as an example of "one-good-reason-not-to-get-vaccinated".
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@Greyparrot
78% of Americans that were hospitalized for Covid were also Obese.I'd say it's a better idea to hit the treadmill first before trusting your health to a shot. There was a fat chick that died in Louisiana after being fully vaccinated. And she was really fat.
Interestingly, both of my friends who experienced severe symptoms after being vaccinated were both overweight.
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@3RU7AL
50 is a ridiculously small sample size.
It's always possible that the study results were merely a statistical anomaly, but that doesn't strike me as very probable. TBH from what I read earlier the immunity from a COVID infection against re-infection was something like 85% protective vs the vaccines being something like 94% protective, at least for Moderna and Pfizer. Those numbers seem to square somewhat with the results of the study. What isn't really being talked about is waning immunity. It seems to happen with immunity from vaccines and COVID infection. Israel is doing booster shots now, but they aren't authorized in the USA. Last year COVID picked up a lot around the holidays, presumably because a lot of people traveled a lot and stayed indoors (close to one another) due to the colder weather. Maybe delaying getting a vaccine for people who have been infected with COVID is wiser so they can boost their immunity from vaccines in time for the holidays, depending on when they were infected and recovered from COVID initially. That way they have a greater period of high immunity. (For example, someone who was infected with COVID 100 days ago would still have high immunity compared to someone infected with COVID over a year ago. The person infected over a year ago would reach high immunity again. The person infected 100 days ago may be wise to wait until 200 days from the initial infection to get vaccinated so that they can have a greater period of high immunity.) Haven't really looked in to that, but it's good to get the CDC cards so you can travel and bypass quarantine orders.
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@dfss9788
Israel is doing booster shots now,
Prepare to $ign up for your quarterly jab for the re$t of your life.
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@3RU7AL
Prepare to $ign up for your quarterly jab for the re$t of your life.
I was figuring it'd be like you get it with the flu shot every year.
Why is this in the political section?
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@n8nrgmi
148,494 adults who received a COVID-19 diagnosis during an emergency department (ED) or inpatient visit at 238 U.S. hospitals during March–December 2020, 28.3% had overweight and 50.8% had obesity (combined 79.1%). Overweight and obesity were risk factors for invasive mechanical ventilation, and obesity was a risk factor for hospitalization and death, particularly among adults aged <65 years. [**]