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I don't know when everybody got so obtuse about wincons.  Last game, the wincon was You Win with the Town and the fact that Wylted didn't know what it meant turned out to be evidence of his guilt, although I was doubtful DP2.

I played like shit, however that was not a part of the evidence. I k ew the town's wincon because pie gave us justification. I just overlooked it, the same way I would have as town. Also had I looked at justification it would have been over looked. 

Also the win con for town is different this game.  If some idiot hasn't exposed it already. Let's go ahead and confirm a town member with it this day part. I suggest starting with poly.

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besides overlooking it, I just did not actually understand what iwwtt. Meant even though I have seen it a million times. 
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Just take a guess... you already know what the initials are
I missed where you gave out the initials, but if you did, stop helping scum correctly guess things like an idiot.
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my wincon is the same as it was last game: you win with the town.

Just saw this. I guess good job oro though you risked fucking it up

VTL whiteflame
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check out that mark passio guy on an occult breakdown of the movie. Watching him and then watching the movie makes it even better somehow
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I wasn't that interested in some of the side characters all that much, felt at times the pace could be slow. I appreciated great characters and the decent aesthetics, but to me the highest I can is a 8. It's a 7.8-8, but I wouldn't call it a 10
Yo I are an idiot. The whole concept is amazing. This and dark city are great films with a similar message
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space odyssey is cool because of the luciderian messaging which most people miss, but I really don't get why people like it.

The knowledge given to monkeys so they could evolve into man, is a luciferian concept. I guess you could say biblical concept, but really not in that way. Lucy did the same thing, but the story was better. 
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I am Junie Browning 
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Unvote VTL poly

I AM CAUGHT UP NOW AND Poly's justification is absolute shit. Millers appear guilty but are innocent. His guy just straight up appears guilty.


Also both pie and oro are basically confirmed town in my book at this point. Pie would have went ahead with the wincon oro stated if he was scum. 
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Either way, it looks like Lunatic gave Townies different wincons. 
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why are you claiming anything? Unless that was a CC, I'm confused as to why that would randomly happen
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I am glad lunatic gave different wincons. I don't like the ideal of PM analysis. 
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Post 68 may be relevant to this game somehow. So posting it here 

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Zechariah sitchen has some good books on the theistic Satanist as well as luciferian concept of creation as continually referenced to by Hollywood in movies such as Lucy (they were too obvious naming her that) and space odyssey.  

He's referred to as enoch in the writings of Sitchen. 


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would you be open to having jailkeeper directed so you can simultaneously avoid preventing an active member of town from using their ability while simultaneously protecting somebody important to town?
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I AM CAUGHT UP NOW AND Poly's justification is absolute shit. Millers appear guilty but are innocent. His guy just straight up appears guilty.
Why don't you believe my justification? You seem hard pressed on eliminating miller but could be a ploy for a mislynch. What are the points in my justification that you can't trust?

Also both pie and oro are basically confirmed town in my book at this point. Pie would have went ahead with the wincon oro stated if he was scum. 
You really think Oro is town confirmed just cause he stated wincon. For all we know, Mafia could have a very similar wincon such as You are a mafia member, simply changing mafia to town. Honestly, I can't really trust anyone is town based on their wincon, especially since people have stated different wincon. 

Plus, I'll say it again. I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. If he is who he claims to be, he will be automatically confirmed in DP3, he could have played undercover until he got the official reveal from TUF. There was absolutely no need for him to role claim. So my vote remains on Oro. 
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I already explained. Millers appear to be something they are not. Your justification is that the guy appears to be an asshole based on his actions and is an asshole. 

Why would the wincon for something that appears to be the opposite of something, be something that appears to be the same?
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@Wylted
I already explained. Millers appear to be something they are not. Your justification is that the guy appears to be an asshole based on his actions and is an asshole. 
Did you miss the part where he was tournament winner in the American top team?
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Plus, I'll say it again. I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. If he is who he claims to be, he will be automatically confirmed in DP3, he could have played undercover until he got the official reveal from TUF. There was absolutely no need for him to role claim. So my vote remains on Oro. 
He is a modwit. Low on the mid part. He is an individual with an IQ of 115 who thinks of himself as smart because he found some smart people he agrees with and copies their reasoning. It's why earth knew he would choose to protect chris over himself and targeted him. Any intelligent person would have known we were going to know he was targeting chris and would instead target him, but he targeted chris anyway. Idiots always do the obvious move in situations that should be wifom. 

He claimed innocent child because he lacks imagination. Much better to have waited. Plus, no swapping out the stated mafia wincon for a town one is not something he would have gone. That is taking an overly risky shot in the dark of guessing the town wincon. Oro would not have done it. Nor would pie have corrected him, if pie was scum. He wouldn't have known to.

Oro and pie are confirmed town. Look elsewhere. 
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I only watch real fighting like the WWE. 
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You are focused on disproving my theory of the wincon. Right now I have no good reason to think anyone is scum. I'll keep my vote on the claimed miller until I do. The justification is not the main reason for my vote. I explained my theory on justifications in the scum pm last game. I will find it and repost here about why I could care less about justification claims
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Nevermind I can't.  Pie erased the scum chat
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Anyway the theory is that justification is pointless. Bad justification can mean 3 things

1. The mod gave bad justification

2. The person did a shifty job of understanding justification or just sucked at relaying it well

3. The person is somehow scum.

None of those things being more likely than another. I don't care about your justification much. However if that is the justification tyf gave you, I think it's terrible. 
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He is a modwit. Low on the mid part. He is an individual with an IQ of 115 who thinks of himself as smart because he found some smart people he agrees with and copies their reasoning. It's why earth knew he would choose to protect chris over himself and targeted him. Any intelligent person would have known we were going to know he was targeting chris and would instead target him, but he targeted chris anyway. Idiots always do the obvious move in situations that should be wifom. 
So your reasoning for Oro claiming his role early is that he's not smart. That's a dumb excuse. 

He claimed innocent child because he lacks imagination.
So you're saying he lacks imagination on the role he could have fake claimed? Sounds even more scummier. I wouldn't be surprised if you and Oro are a scum team working together. 
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Oro and pie are confirmed town. Look elsewhere. 
I don't see any possible way how you came up with that conclusion on just the first day. 
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I only watch real fighting like the WWE. 
This shouldn't discount the fact the my character was tournament winner. 
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@Wylted
You are focused on disproving my theory of the wincon.
I'm not even focused on that. I'm more focused on the fact that Oro claimed his role so early which seems so scummy. You're playing just as sloppily as you did in Day 3 of Ancient Roman Battles
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So your reasoning for Oro claiming his role early is that he's not smart. That's a dumb excuse
It's stupid no matter his affiliation. 
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@Polyglot
I always attribute shifty logic to scumminess. It took me a while to realize that even intelligent people can use shifty logic. 

Your logic is terrible. Even if that by itself is scummy, which I disagree with, why are you not weighing his other behaviors into your analysis. Is there no weight given to the fact he knew at least some town had different justifications than last game? 

I've weighted these things. I no child is something a bad scum person would claim early. I don't think oro is that terrible. I also think that scum likely did not know any of our wincons and he should get that weighted to his credit as well
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@Polyglot
I don't think most of our characters were tournament winners. Is it that only scum have tournament winners? Not sure why I would give the tournament winner thing any weight