there is evil all of the world so this seems to be demonstrate that a god who is all powerful and all loving does not exist.
Evil will always exist in a dualistic environment. The Creator is not one thing or another, all of creation exists within God and all things are experienced through God. God exists as sure as you and I exist.
However there are many parallel universe and each plane has a specific nature to it. Of course the physical world is the wild wild west of creation where you see the full swing of duality and it is meant to be that way for the experience. While God doesn't create your actions you are free to choose them. Many of the souls that inhabit this planet are of low awareness and often times of poor character and so there's a lot of weird shyt that goes on, but there are much more elevated places within creation. So for now, just don't lose hope because you observe evil here, just know that this world was created as a means to experience creation at its lowest and weakest point. Souls come here to learn hard lessons and see where they stand amongst the higher worlds of God.
there are multiple religions which seems to indicate that there is not simply either one god or one god who can unite people who believe. each religion seems to have a deity whose people alone have the key to understanding.
I'm not fully understanding this, perhaps it is poorly worded but just so you know I'm an Omnist regarding religion though my background was primarily Christian. So I study all forms of spirituality and religious knowledge. I don't necessarily believe in all religions or their claims but I understand that each source has good insights as well as information that can be discarded.
Having said that, there are countless societies that exist outside the physical world and they all have their own places within the created worlds, and souls here are free to experience them and learn from them. Some are kingdoms with their own rulers, but as you study spirituality on earth
people are born without limbs - if god was omnicient and all powerful - why does he let this happen?
In this world everything is ruled by cause and effect, God doesn't sit around making all these things occur. If you're not familiar with Karma, you should do a bit of research about it and maybe it will give you a greater perspective of why this world is the way it is. Many people avoid such a principle but it reflects reality and explains quite easily why there are misfortunes in this life. It's not unfair at all because it is based upon the very behaviors, actions and lifestyles of every soul and remember we are here to simply learn from our mistakes. No one should be judged and everyone is on a temporal path here. We are all in this together. Some things may appear disturbing, but you have no way to see the larger picture so you have to be aware of the dynamics involved.
if god is none of these things but simply made the world - why? what purpose is there for a god to make a world and then disapear without leaving specific clues for people to understand with "common sense"? Sorry - the evidence against god is very strong. the evidence for god is weak.
God never disappears, and the best advice I can share with you on this one is that God experiences everything right through you. Whatever anybody experiences God experiences, this is the investment God has in this. God gets to experience the beauty and the sorrow of each life. And God does not just sit back and judge that but is very much apart of it as one who observes all things through each person. Ironically, we believe God to be some distant thing or person way out there somewhere who has no idea what we go through lol, meanwhile God is sitting in your seat and you are unaware of it.
to believe in the imaginary person of god without a purpose to do so - achieves nothing. Say for the sake of your argument you are correct. Say god did make the world using evolution. why?
Because there is always a process of creating something from nothing, and we observe that process by what we learn from our universe in action. Evolution is simply a process by which things are brought into existence.
do you think god wants us to believe in him?
It doesn't matter to God, it matter to you because you're in full control of your own input and output. Your input and output control what you experience. There is more to achieve than you every thought possible, but your advancement hinges on your own thoughts and beliefs.
Your beliefs are like your gas in your own vehicle, depending on how much you have in the tank is how far you will go. It can be compared to learning, your own learning will reflect how much you achieve.
you don't believe in the christian god. Im not sure what god you do believe in.
The Christian Kingdom has its own place within creation but it's not the only Kingdom or place, it is one out of endless realities. I very much believe in it, I was raised by it and spent many years of my life applying it and understanding it. If any one has any say in it it's me because I've paid my dues and I've put in the time. But....the beauty of creation is in its variations. Such variations all fit into the same massive reality we call creation. The Christian heaven is actually located on one planet, it has its own Ruler, King, laws, principles and a wide range of its own peoples. If you were to visit that Kingdom you would be quite surprised and probably very humbled.
I believe in a singular Reality I would call God (the Foundation or Platform), but out of this singular Reality many other gods are placed within many universes as incarnated entities that rule parts of creation and each soul journeys throughout all these locations and places.
In this concept both monotheism and polytheism are absolutely compatible. The Platform has many, many expressions of Itself and God creates endlessly as a means for each being to have access to not just one or two experiences but infinite options.
Do you believe in heaven or hell? if not - then what is the purpose and how is it relevant to my life. Do you think atheists go to heaven or to hell? this is why i see it as nonsense. it is nonsense because there does not seem to be a point - not a valid one anyway.
Creation is driven by Karma, and Karma is based upon actions not beliefs. So the misconception that souls are tortured in hell for eternity because of their beliefs is BS. Hell is simply a prison in the astral plane, it serves the very same purpose as our prisons on earth. Buddhism for example goes into great detail about hell (prison), and souls sentences in such a place are congruent with their crimes they commit.
if religion is not about fear - then what is it about?
Religions are the observations of man regarding their interpretations of creation and or God. I don't know why people have this idea that it is about fear, it simply makes no sense to make that assertion. Fear regarding spirituality is usually avoided in principle, because fear as it controls people is not a useful function. Most religious sources teach about fear and help you understand how to not let it control your life and choices.
All the good insights given throughout the history of religions you can simply leave it or utilize it, knowing that you don't have to accept everything you hear, just information that resonates with you so you can apply that knowledge to your data base or apply it to yourself. You are very much apart of God whether you know that or not, that is your true origins and you have as much say about God as any religious source. The only difference is someone may have more understanding than you do, which is why it's always good practice to learn from the wise.
if god is going to love us - no matter what - then why does it matter whether we believe or not - or question his existence or not. and how does that relate to truth?
Your beliefs reflect your future experiences. You can believe or disbelieve and it wouldn't matter to your Creator in terms of what you mean to God. But you have a spiritual journey ahead of you and it is for your benefit alone you learn everything you can about that aspect of yourself. To stay in the dark is to walk in the dark, of course by dark I simply mean ignorance. You don't want to remain ignorant about God and your spiritual journey because it is your level of knowledge and application that will propel you into greater experiences. The longer you delay that the longer you resist moving forward.
Spirituality is on different than any other learning curve, the more you know the more you can do. The more you learn the more you can apply, and the more you can apply the more experience you can add to yourself. God's love though, is irrelevant to whatever you choose to do.
truth is what? I say the closest thing to reality - from my subjective point of view - or should it be from an objective point of view? Idk. This has been an interesting discussion.
Truth is certainly the closest thing to reality, but your perception of reality influences what you believe truth to be. If God exists, and what I'm saying to you is true you will never know it because you're walking around with your head in the clouds. Open yourself up, trust that I have something useful for you to learn from, and no one is asking that you be naive or gullible but at some point if you wish to advance towards what is true you can't allow some worthless ideology like atheism to get in your way. You have to be willing to discard that at all costs to follow truth, and believe me when I say that such an ideology is detrimental to your advancement. Not because you are hated or being punished rather because you are what permits or rejects that growth simply by what you accept.
Spirituality is both subjective and objective meaning that it relates to you personally from your perspective as well as there are objective truths because it exists as an actuality not an idea or some figment of the imagination. While you have the freedom to express your spirituality in any way you find acceptable, there is also an objective base to learn from.
I hope this helps us understand one another a bit more, although I don't really want to get too far off track before we see eye to eye on God's existence. As we work to clear that obstacle we can get more into details. I would say though, that what religions put forth is irrelevant to whether or not God exists. Just make sure you take your time and read fully what I'm writing and you will see that everything should make sense. The dynamics that are involved is what makes your attention to what I'm saying important but really there is a simplicity to all this as well.
