Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood DP2

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@Polyglot
Unvote. We haven't even got all claims yet. 
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@whiteflame
Talking about justifications is mostly a waste of time.

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@Earth
I disagree. I think it’s valid to discuss trends in role justifications, even if digging down into individual justifications in isolation can be somewhat problematic. Wouldn’t be the first time that I’ve seen that kind of analysis yield something meaningful.
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@badger
Wait I’m confused. So are you the cop or not?
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@ILikePie5
I was a 1x cop. 
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@Earth
It's also boring. We're not in the game to play the mod. 
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@Polyglot
I feel like there wouldn’t be a cop in the game given Chris’s role.
Pretty sure Badger claimed Cop lol
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@whiteflame
I’ll point out, however, that the justification for Maria Ross is much more of a clean and clear fit than any of the justifications I’ve heard so far, almost like it was crafted by someone else.
So who created it? Seems to me only you, Chris, Polyglot, and myself are familiar with the show. Think Polyglot had a miller claim readymade to fit into this meta of yours?
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@ILikePie5
Who do you suspect?
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@badger
Who do you suspect?
Wylted and Poly. The former didnt post once in the DP even though he was active. The latter defended him asking why we were sus of him.
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I really don't want to lynch Pie tbh. There's so much about him screams town. Even the PoE thing D1 when I suggested NL'ing, that just fit with his action of claiming to begin with, his claim part of that process. There's straight line town thinking in it. 
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@badger
I think it’s still plausible that this was a fake claim crafted by the mod, though as I see it, there are two routes to this having been designed by scum. One is to have a teammate who knows a lot about the series. Even people who are claiming to know nothing about it could be lying (this is an incredibly popular anime), so I’m not trusting claims from those who say it’s new to them. Two is that they could have just Googled it. At first, I thought this was unlikely, but when I put in “fullmetal alchemist suspected”, Maria Ross comes up as the second hit.

She’s obviously a safe pick for a character, given that she is clearly not part of the main cast (even Riza and Hohenheim play much more substantial roles, and they’re the two least involved characters claimed aside from her), which means the only basis I have left for believing that the claim is genuine is that no one has CC’d the Miller claim, which seems like a flimsy reason to place him as town. None of his behaviors scream town to me at all, especially given that, behaviorally, he’s quite good at concealing himself when he’s scum.
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@whiteflame
You've not made one point about behaviour all game long.

What of the fact that there's only going to be two mafia here? How many games have you played in that mafia claimed D1, first post?
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@whiteflame
I think it’s still plausible that this was a fake claim crafted by the mod
This would be Bastard af. If I claimed Miller as scum, then I or my partner would have to have made up the justification. I hate anime so it would have to be my partner who made it. Alternatively we know that there’s a Cop on NP1 and a Cop on NP2. That’s pretty much a regular Cop power considering how long the game would last with 8 players.
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@badger
I don’t see a strong reason to suspect anyone based on behavior alone, so no, I haven’t discussed it. 

As I see it, the fact that you have written him off as town is more than enough reason to have done this. Pie makes ballsy moves, much to his credit, but I don’t see it as particularly dangerous to claim that early, especially if scum got a list of roles in the game (it wouldn’t be the first time). Also not sure why having just two scum in this game makes it obvious that they wouldn’t pull this stunt.
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 Also not sure why having just two scum in this game makes it obvious that they wouldn’t pull this stunt.
Loss aversion is why. It's more plausible if there's three or four mafia. Two people don't get into a PM and one decides to kamikaze right there.

Do you think Supa handed mafia a safe miller claim? 
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Is there precedent for that at all?
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Chris - Winry Rockbell - Giver: 1x Cop, 1x Vigilante, 1x Bulletproof

Pie - Maria Ross - Miller
Earth - Alphonse Elric - Bulletproof 
Wylted - Edward Elric - ???
Badger - Van Hohenheim - 1x Cop
Lunatic - ??? - ???
Whiteflame - Roy Mustang - ???
Polygot - Riza Hawkeye - ???

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@badger
Is there precedent for that at all?
No, but it’s a theoretical possibility, which I don’t want to deal with on MYLO or LYLO when I’m not the Miller. That’s why I’ve said I’ll be policy lynched assuming there isn’t another alternative - an alternative I’m trying to find atm
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Honestly, don’t think it’s terribly likely that it was a fake claim given by the mod, though that has more to do with the likelihood Supa would have crafted both these and the actual roles. I think it’s more likely that Pie either has a partner who knows about Maria Ross or that you did a basic level of research and posted it quickly to give himself early to own cred. Not saying it’s not plausible for there to be a Miller, though I don’t think its plausibility does much to alleviate my suspicions.
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@Vader
Wylted should be replaced honestly. This is kinda bullshit. See if Chris wants to play.
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@badger
Wylted should be replaced honestly. This is kinda bullshit. See if Chris wants to play.
Supa’s probably hungover after drinking a shit ton last night
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@whiteflame
honestly I was thinking doing like forensic analysis kinda shit mostly just 'games' the game.

Also where the fuck is Wylted

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So we know there’s a 1x Cop, there’s a 1x (I’m assuming) Bulletproof. What are the odds there’s a 1x Vigilante to complete out the trio that was Chris’s role 
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@Earth
Also where the fuck is Wylted
He probably has work. Pretty sure he has two jobs and works all day
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So we know there’s a 1x Cop, there’s a 1x (I’m assuming) Bulletproof. What are the odds there’s a 1x Vigilante to complete out the trio that was Chris’s role 
Knowing Supa, I wouldn’t be surprised. His games are very very very swingy to the point of being unbalanced 
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@ILikePie5
Wylted and Poly. The former didnt post once in the DP even though he was active. The latter defended him asking why we were sus of him.
My post history will indicate I have been MIA for about a week 
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Pie [2/4] Wylted, Polyglot
Earth [2/4] Lunatic, Pie

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@Wylted
My post history will indicate I have been MIA for about a week 
But you were on the site…

Couldn’t even say hello, or I’m not gonna be active? Takes a few seconds.
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@Lunatic
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