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If I am not drunk but I am also not sober? what state is this?
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Buzzed?
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I would go with this word. Buzzed is better than drunk anyway. 
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9pm at a party. 
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If one consumes alcohol, then one is intoxicated.

And varying exhibitions of uninhibited behaviour may transpire, relative to consumption rates.

The intoxicated often retain the belief that they are behaving rationally.... Though staggering,  speech impediments and eventual collapse are usually the big give away.

Vomit and headaches may follow.

Been there, done that.

More than once.

Lesson learned.

Though some people never learn.
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Dimtim8967 wrote: If I am not drunk but I am also not sober? what state is this?

The state of Utah,  Salt Lake City? An Islamic state? 
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Very funny. 
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Sorry to be so blunt, but idiocy comes to mind. But, then, I don't drink alcohol. At all. It is amusing to watch people who do, however, and who think they are not drunk. Sorry to say, y'all can be such entertainment, and I reflect how much I appreciate remaining in control.
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The choice not to drink is yours.  The choice to drink is mine.  

To label it idiocy is however uncalled for. True, those who get drunk may make fools of themselves. But not everyone who drinks is an idiot. Unless of course you consider Jesus to be an idiot. 
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What were the circumstances of drinking excessively in the first century CE? Because I am not so naive as to claim that wine, then, was really just grape juice, not to mention that that wine, then, was probably healthier and more plentiful than most had access to fresh water. However, they did not drive their horse/ox-drawn carts at 80 MPH, either. The worst damage then was probably falling off the wagon, thus the origin of that idiom. Excessive drinking is far more dangerous to self and others today than when Jesus was pedestrian. No, I consider anyone today who drinks excessively to be acting like an idiot, because it is completely a matter within their control. They simply choose to abdicate control. That's dumb.
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Who says you have to drink excessively? There's fun in that too though, I might add. Stories to be made, I spent a night laughing at old stories tonight in fact. You'll never have that much fun with Jesus. Or maybe you might, I'll hold out hope he's a bit of a Jack the Lad, too. But not drinking at all sounds a bit daft, right. I love tipsy, to be honest. There's nothing as lovely as a few pints, few Guinnesses. I googled that word another ten times, I'll be honest. A few cream liqueurs, and I right-clicked that one.  But nothing as nice. And to sit there warm and dozy and be thoroughly amused by yourself. Well, what's your problem, old man?
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perhaps there is the difference between us. You seek fun. I seek joy, and it does not come out ofd a bottle. I like dark chocolate, but not even that is joy. Joy is not packaged, as virtually all fun is. They are not even closely related, kid.
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Try a nice cream liqueur at least. 
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I don't drink alcohol, period, thanks. The pleasure I obtain from a fine, dark chocolate is satisfaction enough for me.
I will, however, drink just the cream. I make dark chocolate ice cream, the cream is 40% butter fat. Can't be ice cream when its made with milk.

Think it not strange, if heaven has a care
To justice, good, forthright and fair,
If, after our Lord brings us there,
He'll serve us chocolate, all seasons of the year.

A personally-written verse I one printed on a Christmas Card.


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Yeah but have one cream liqueur.
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Nope. I did say it is a mater of control, yeah? That's what I mean. 
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Alright, alright. Don't have a fit.
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Nope. just takes convincing some people. I read about the sale beginning when the customer says 'No.' I didn't buy the book because this customer knows what 'no' is. No biggy, though. All good. Enjoy, and cheers.
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Do you have communion in church when you attend? Isn't that alcohol? Or does your church practice symbolism only. A symbol of a symbol in a thimble. 
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I will thank you to avoid ridicule the Lord's Supper. It matters not the emblems used so long as they are consecrated to their use as personal witness of acknowledgment of the Lord's atonement for us, and our personal commitment to keep the commandments, and to repent of our sins when committed. The emblems used happen to be simple bread and water.
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With respect fauxlaw, I was not ridiculing the Lord's supper - just the manner in which some purport to conduct it in order to appease their own sentimentalities or superstitions. 

Having said that,  I have not before heard of water being used rather than wine or grapejuice.  Honestly, I think that not only destroys the symbol, but reduces it to something completely different to what is represents.  But hey - it is your church.  

Why water by the way? how does that represent Jesus' blood - in the new covenant? 
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Why water by the way? how does that represent Jesus' blood - in the new covenant? 
I mean, there is the saying "it's the thought that counts". For a being that has knowledge of all your thoughts that would seem to be more relevant than ever.
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Water, because it is simple. What is the primary element of wine? Or, blood, for that matter? Therefore, as a symbol, it is valid. Consider that in the 1st century CE, fresh water was probably not as plentiful as wine.
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Ok. Not very convincing - but ok. 
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You're not convinced?


Water content in blood, by percentage:  60% of whole blood is plasma, and 92% of that is water. Therefore, 55% of of blood is water [not counting the water content in red and white blood cells.  https://web.archive.org/web/20090305043654/http://www.fi.edu/learn/heart/blood/blood.html