Fairy Tail Mafia DP1

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I feel sorry for Pie. It sucks to get caught this early.
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Testing MC is a distraction and waste of time.
I would heavily disagree. We should be testing him every day phase.
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Perhaps so. I’ll consider.
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Please join my wagon on Pie.
Not much chance of that.  Looks like standard theme analysis from Pie.  I am presently much more concerned about an unknown jumping in with a lot of demands right off.

I am content with verifying MC while we wait for the remaining players to check in.
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I do not understand any of post 10, where RM wrote: 

VTL Coal

He knew that PMs are well thought out, he should only know his own PM. That is not a 'figure of speech' it is a freudian slip.

He also says 'let's not fuck it up' (unless the duck is some kind of breadcrumb but idk any ducks on this series off the top of my head).

"let's" is implying 'us' which is also what skilled mafia do when they keep talking 'we' instead of just 'town'. It's a way of appearing to leak towntells.
This kind of thing is unhelpful. 

Post 16, where Pie writes:

I want Oro's character and a paraphrase of the justification. 
Any specific reason?
Random.  

Post 20: 

  • Why me?
You got the luck of the draw.  No specific reason. 

  • I have already claimed more than you have
You said that at 20.  I have seen no claim from you, hard or soft.  Perhaps I missed it?  

  • I will trade my character claim for your character claim
What is the utility in doing that?

  • MOD said no roles would be given justifications related to character
    • but I see a line drawn between my ROLE and one aspect of charachter
  • Please advise whether you have a justification
I have a justification and the fact that you said that makes me want your claim considerably more. 
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I'm by far the most experienced and trustworthy scum catcher in this game. I'm the kind of person you lynch at LYLO if I haven't led a lynch on scum yet.
This isn’t DDO.
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Look, proving someone's role doesn't tell us anything about alignments. It's a complete waste of time. A benefit for the scum.
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you will like to see Pie are L-1 and not have him hammered? What is the point of saying that? How does that put pressure on him?
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RM's mind doesn't work too well, coal. He's town.
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Look, proving someone's role doesn't tell us anything about alignments. It's a complete waste of time. A benefit for the scum.
I never said it proves alignments. It locks him in the role every DP and literally takes 5 seconds to do. There are 6 people active rn
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TOWN
Coal
Whiteflame
MisterChris                  Mirajane Strauss  LOVED
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AWoL
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Scum and town alike will freak out at L-1. It's also telling to see how others react to L-1. A very telling situation in general for all involved.
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Did you town read me, at post 20 or did something change when you posted about thirty five minutes later when you placed me in your town pile in post 25

If you town read me at 20, why ask for my character?
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Does anyone think Pie is town? If so, speak now.
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Post 66. Classic scum tell. Discredit the strongest scum hunter in the game.
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All the classic tells coming from Pie here.
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Y’all probably played with FT on DDO back in the day. Anything unusual about his play so far from what y’all can remember?

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@FourTrouble
Pie is a very hard guy to read, I have hard scumread him when he is town before so I have learned to just not read him at all (behaviour-wise) and instead follow his actions. Who he votes and why are how to read him much more than anything he says, for me anyway.

Pie thinks in a way and logical framework that doesn't mesh well with my brain, I always scumread it every single game I played with him and learned my lesson when it was wrong twice in a row.
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Coal, why aren't you voting Pie?
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Post 66. Classic scum tell. Discredit the strongest scum hunter in the game.
You really aren’t considering you haven’t played with more than half of us. Plus DART mafia is hell of a lot different than DDO mafia lol
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Here's a lesson: mafia is mafia. Informed minority vs uninformed majority. There's no difference other than minor meta things that don't affect how I scumhunt. 

Attempting to discredit me is extremely scummy.

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Coal, why aren't you voting Pie?
I am more interested in seeing how two specific other players (one who has been active, another who hasn't) respond to it before I involve myself.

Assume this post's silence on the Pie issue is the answer to your post 74
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Did you town read me, at post 20 or did something change when you posted about thirty five minutes later when you placed me in your town pile in post 25

If you town read me at 20, why ask for my character?
My TOWN pile is above the TOWN demarcation.
My SCUM pile is below the SCUM demarcation.

At present, I am my only TOWN read.

The middle is organized according to order joined.  Once everybody has checked in, I start to organize according to claims and gameplay. 
You are closer to TOWN only because you joined early at this point.  I agree with RM that demanding claims in the first post is more likely anti-TOWN.

I was willing to swap character claims back when I believed Supa's rule that there was no character justification for ROLE.  Now it seems that  justification is closer to standard and at least possibly linked  if not likely.  I claimed my character in my first post but now I don't think we should hard claim characters until folks familiar with this theme advise on how closely connected character is to theme.
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Y’all probably played with FT on DDO back in the day. Anything unusual about his play so far from what y’all can remember?
I understand you have not played with him before. Everything about what he's done here indicates he's town; both objectively, as to how he's moving the ball forward, and subjectively, as to how he's playing his town meta. 



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All the classic tells coming from Pie here.
lol is Pie's scum tell
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@coal
I understand you have not played with him before. Everything about what he's done here indicates he's town; both objectively, as to how he's moving the ball forward, and subjectively, as to how he's playing his town meta. 
And you are building rapport with him to get him on your side, which is your scum meta. Actually, I don't know if you also do that as town to be fair but I am sure you do that as scum.

I read one of your games recently and you didn't do this particularly much with anyone D1 and you were town, I admit one game isn't much to go on especially as you 'switch it up' a lot.
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Coal's refusal to join my wagon on Pie is concerning, that's true.
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RM, I can tell you're town. Please help me on Pie. The fruits will be worthwhile.
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who knows this theme?  I am thinking Pie, speed, whiteflame most likely to be familiar.

If you are familiar with the anime, pls. advise whether character links to role are weak, strong, or non-existent.  WF has already suggested that MC's claim is strongly linked.
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oromagi [1/6] coal
coal [1/6]RationalMadman
Chris [2/6] Oromagi, Pie 
Pie [1/6] FourTrouble