Fairy Tail Mafia DP1

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@MisterChris
I get that you're saying it was a gambit. But it was a gambit to get Earth lynched with a fake result, and I'm not seeing the utility in RM shutting up about it. 
Maybe it is a gambit, maybe not. If it was you can see why the miller claim becomes extra suspicious. Even if he is a real day cop it's suspicious he claimed it AFTER getting copped when its SOP to claim miller quickly. 
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@coal
Explain yourself. To my "untrained eye" it just looks like you're throwing accusations in hopes for a lynch. You need to go in more depth. Keeping a FOS on you

Explain in detail your thought process behind this post.

Throughout this game, I've just seen FT & others jump from wagon to wagon, accusation to accusation, and not give any substantial reasoning other than scattered statements based off of ambiguous quotes that come off to me as innocent most times. What's worse is that he has ZERO intention of determining whether the quotes were innocent or not through claiming, he assumes the worst and uses his flimsy stances as catalysts for lynches. I get that claims can be manipulated by mafia, but if you want to go all-in on behavior, have something more convincing, more substantial than "Pie hasn't said "fuck" enough this DP" or "Whiteflame hasn't joined in on this baseless lynch, so let's lynch him!!" Moreover, I believe that claiming smartly allows TOWN to avoid mislynches that fast-track TOWN to a mafia victory. 
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@whiteflame
Not sure what I missed. I'm on the same lynch wagon as you, and I found that RM's choice to claim cop to CC FT was similarly problematic.

Mostly talking about making a stink out of the CC situation.
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Of all the lynches proposed other than the one on FT, Earth makes the most sense. If we didn't lynch FT, Earth would be my choice. 
  • the read of his laziness contributes but isn't a large factor
  • his claim of Miller right after 2 COP claims is convenient as hell. 


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@Lunatic
Wouldn't say I've made much of a stink about it. It's frustrating, but it's not a reason for me to push for anything different than I have already.
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@Lunatic
You have a scum tell that I noticed in drafters game when I was the seer and knew you were scum but couldn't out the info. It's like a cocky air of confidence, that I think is showing in your dismissal of FT entirely, trying to dis-credit the read based on his lack of experience with the site, etc. You play that way as scum, very cocky and arrogant. I feel like I'd notice more frustration or rage if you were town, some cus words maybe "Towns being fvcking stupid right now". I've picked up on this tell from you in a couple other games. 
And what happens when I flip town lol. I’ll be sure to bring up the fact that you were dead wrong in endgame
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@RationalMadman
It gains us his role and character, which doesn't gain us anything unless others have claimed and we have a lot of ways to play the night phase out.
This makes no sense. Assuming he’s scum, knowing his role is extremely useful. For example if he’s the scum Roleblocker we will know that it’s likely no more scum roleblocks exist. We can eventually frame our actions around the info we learn if Earth flips scum.

At the moment one of the cops is dying and nothing positive will happen if Earth really is miller, which is what I read at the moment.
You’re assuming he is the Miller. Even if he is, I’d rather get rid of the Miller now so we don’t come in a MYLO or LYLO situation where we have a guilty and a Miller.
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@Lunatic
I don't think you fully understand what pie's meta's are, nor have you played with him as much as I have. I specifically brought up an example where pie's behavior was very similar to how it is now with drafters game. Check out some of his scum games (heavy hitters is a good one to reference since it was so recent). His play style seems very similar. 
Imma laugh when you’re dead wrong
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@Earth
literally what am I to do when guilty'd as miller?
What would scum do when they get guiltied? I know: claim Miller
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@Lunatic
I actually agree with FT here, confirming you doesn't really earn you town points, mods frequently make this role mafia sided. Behavior =/= role always. 
Are you opposed to the idea of putting Chris at 6/6?

Simple yes or no question.
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Earth [4/6] Whiteflame, coal, iLikePie5, Lunatic
FourTrouble [1/6] MisterChris

Please let me know if I made a mistake

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Speed still has not checked in once
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Post 148: FT voted for Earth
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Unvote

I wanna hear from Speed before we lynch Earth.
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@Speedrace
Wtf u doing 
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Earth [5/6] Whiteflame, coal, iLikePie5, Lunatic, FourTrouble
FourTrouble [1/6] MisterChris

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MC is scum. FT is obviously town. RatMan is town. 

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@Earth
Why do you think MC is scum?
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@whiteflame
MC is acting more aggressive than usual and is going after obvious town.
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I'm inclined to believe MC is scum as well.
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I'd give it 90% probability if Earth is town, and 60% probability if Earth is scum. 
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Assuming mafia is on me, then maybe there's a ~30% chance that Pie is mafia.
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If Earth flips town, scum MC explains why MC is pushing my lynch here.

If Earth flips scum, it's more likely that MC's very bad town. Post 362 supports this view.

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@FourTrouble
I wouldnt totally dismiss that MC is bad town. I think noob town is more appropriate but yeah check out thw game just before this one... Led a near mislynch on me dp1 and was wrong all through the rest of the game and detracted from scum lynches even though both scum were top reads by most townies.
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@FourTrouble
hey, do you want to lynch MC today? I'm not going anywhere and you'll need all the votes you can get.
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@Earth
MC is acting more aggressive than usual and is going after obvious town.
The irony in this statement
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@ILikePie5
Are you obvious town?
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@Earth
Are you obvious town?
Yes I am town
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I am not unvoting Coal
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I prefer NL to lynching Earth, that's how seriously I read this situation.

We can't know Earth is scum without forcing others to out.