if you think there are things that are not debateable, what are some examples?
everything is debateable
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@n8nrgmi
THBT: THINGS CHANGE
THINGS (plural things) is "that which is considered to exist as a separate entity, object, quality or concept."
CHANGE is "to become something different."
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@oromagi
The universe is singular including time. Past, present, and future exist equally.
This is just an example. Not an active argument. You can then respond with relativity.
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@n8nrgmi
The sky is blue
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@Vader
well actually the relatively sparse air particles reflect the photons which we would call blue, which would not actually inform something as "being" blue.
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@Theweakeredge
Your username on this website known as Debateart.com, is Theweakeredge
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@Vader
The sky is blue
Loaded statement.
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@Theweakeredge
Also not including the night, cloudy weather, pollution, fog, and dusk and dawn.
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@Reece101
O.K......So, time and colour etc..... All only relative to an intelligent observer.
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@zedvictor4
What are you getting at?
The user, known as oromagi, has won debates on the site known as Debateart.com
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@n8nrgmi
Everything is debateable, as in, you could try to debate it.
But no amount of philosophical skepticism and logical syllogisms will break the objective reality of my fist colliding with your nose.
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@n8nrgmi
Opinionated things, such as tastes in food or music.
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@Vader
Indeed. I fail to see the relevance of such a statement, perhaps you wouldn't mind enlightening me?
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@Reece101
Mmhm
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@Theweakeredge
Therefore this is not debateable
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@Vader
I could antithetically hold a solipsist point of view, and argue that only in my mind is such a thing true - that there is, in fact, another name that would be relegated to the real debateart.com
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@Reece101
Relativity.
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@oromagi
plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose
the more that changes, the more it's the same thing. - A French idiom
The grass is greener on the other side of the hill.
Even when you're on the other side of the hill, thus demonstrating the above.
I'm in my 72nd year. I can say a lot has changed, but can also say that it's been much the same, just different in style, but not much in substance.
Yeah, I'd say change is debatable.
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@Reece101
--> @oromagiThe universe is singular including time. Past, present, and future exist equally.
- singularities are not static
- we see that black holes grow or shrink depending on the angular momentum of material sucked
- If you and I were the same component of singularity, we would be of one mind.
- If we were of one mind, we'd agree that things chance.
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@fauxlaw
--> @oromagiplus ca change plus c'est la meme chosethe more that changes, the more it's the same thing. - A French idiomThe grass is greener on the other side of the hill.Even when you're on the other side of the hill, thus demonstrating the above.I'm in my 72nd year. I can say a lot has changed, but can also say that it's been much the same, just different in style, but not much in substance.Yeah, I'd say change is debatable.
Mais "plus ca change" concède que le changement existe, non?
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@oromagi
Αν όλες οι αλλαγές αποφέρουν το ίδιο, τι άλλαξε;
If all changes bring the same, what has changed?
Actually, the concept of the French idiom would make an interesting debate. Interested?
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@fauxlaw
Actually, the concept of the French idiom would make an interesting debate. Interested?
débattre de la grammaire française avec un auteur qui a vécu en France? quande les poules auront des dents.
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@David
@Barney
@MisterChris
That is not how a mod should carry themselves.
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@RationalMadman
it's a satirical statement meant to illustrate a point.
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@oromagi
- singularities are not static
- we see that black holes grow or shrink depending on the angular momentum of material sucked
If you were able to see all past, present and future simultaneously, it would be static.
- If you and I were the same component of singularity, we would be of one mind.
- If we were of one mind, we'd agree that things change
We don’t need to be of one mind to acknowledge things change relatively.
Even if our experiences vary.
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@Reece101
If you were able to see all past, present and future simultaneously, it would be static.
Acknowledging past, present, and future concedes the change of time.
We don’t need to be of one mind to acknowledge things change relatively.
relativity requires an observer and observed- at least two positions in space.
More than one position in space disproves singularity.
Even if our experiences vary.
Variety disproves singularity.
Variable experience proves things change. If nothing ever changed, experience would not vary.
Certain things are, by definition, true, thus making them practically undebatable. For instance, the statement, "A bachelor is not married," is true by definition, making any counter-argument futile.
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@oromagi
Acknowledging past, present, and future concedes the change of time.
Time is a subjective measurement which can be extrapolated.
relativity requires an observer and observed- at least two positions in space.More than one position in space disproves singularity
Space is not a perfect vacuum.
Variety disproves singularity.Variable experience proves things change. If nothing ever changed, experience would not vary.
Variable experience proves ignorance.
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@Trent0405
Certain things are, by definition, true, thus making them practically undebatable. For instance, the statement, "A bachelor is not married," is true by definition, making any counter-argument futile.
"A bachelor is not married," Is not a definition in and of itself.
“Bachelor” and “married” have multiple definitions which can be combined to create an ambiguous statement.
It is possible you can mean a bachelor (a person with said degree) is not married to his profession.