It has to do with the trinity in the case of it leading to incest. You seem to think no one was going to notice that is the Rabbi's issue, the incest.
Don't get mad at me
your topic is silly and just to provoke Christians.
The Bible is full of say one thing do another.
God has little issue with incest it seems since those he chooses engage in it with little punishment. Jesus being no exception.
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"the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" said Rabbi David Kimhi - " therefore, with reference to this god whom you call Father, Son and Holy Spirit, - that part which you call the Father must be prior to that which you call Son, for if they were always coexistent would have to be called twin brothers.More over, if the Son is the Father what of Mary getting pregnant? Is this not an incestuous congregation? The Father has sex with the mother to conceive the Son who is also the Father.....so technically the Son, who is also the father, had sex with his mother"...It's all very - Oedipus, isn't it ?Oedipus c 450 BC, was a mythical Greek king of Thebes. A tragic hero in Greek mythology, Oedipus is believed to have fulfilled a prophecy (accidentally) that he would end up killing his father and marrying his mother, thereby bringing disaster to his city and family.
The issue of slavery is a complex one. If you want to read a brief discussion of the application of laws in that regard, you can start here and (with overlap and more) here.Suffice to say, manumission's being prohibited was not as simple as that half anecdote suggests (though that anecdote was a responsa for finding a way to ensure freedom regardless of the apparent superficial prohibition).The topic continues to be debated and its intricacies worked through such as in this exchange.
--> @ShilaOne would assume that the concept of slave inevitably means that the enslaved can be utilised in any which way, irrespective of the slave's former ideological position.Master... What are you doing Slave?Slave... I'm praying to my GOD.Master... Get on with your work and don't be impudent.Sort of thing.
Slavery was not practical to the Jews because it would be impossible to teach the slaves all the different commandments and restrictions required in Jewish households.
--> @ShilaSlavery was not practical to the Jews because it would be impossible to teach the slaves all the different commandments and restrictions required in Jewish households.Are you saying Jews didn't keep slaves?
--> @ShilaSlavery was not practical to the Jews because it would be impossible to teach the slaves all the different commandments and restrictions required in Jewish households.Are you saying Jews didn't keep slaves?Only a minority of Jews kept slaves.
--> @ShilaI exist day to day and an essential part of the process is making data assessments.And for sure, I've come to consider certain ideas as irrelevant to my existence.
If humans evolved from Apes then why are apes still with us. So May I ask what are you doing here?
-> @ShilaIf humans evolved from Apes then why are apes still with us. So May I ask what are you doing here?They are here because they remained apes. That is to say although we humans are said to have evolved from apes doesn't necessarily mean the apes have to die out. The better question for me is why is a chimp still a chimp?
More over, if the Son is the Father what of Mary getting pregnant? Is this not an incestuous congregation? The Father has sex with the mother to conceive the Son who is also the Father.....so technically the Son, who is also the father, had sex with his mother"...
--> @StephenMore over, if the Son is the Father what of Mary getting pregnant? Is this not an incestuous congregation? The Father has sex with the mother to conceive the Son who is also the Father.....so technically the Son, who is also the father, had sex with his mother"...I am from the southern part of the United States. I speak for every southerner when I say, that fucking my own mother is nothing to be ashamed of.
Humans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.
More over, if the Son is the Father what of Mary getting pregnant? Is this not an incestuous congregation? The Father has sex with the mother to conceive the Son who is also the Father.....so technically the Son, who is also the father, had sex with his mother"...Wylted wrote: I am from the southern part of the United States. I speak for every southerner when I say, that fucking my own mother is nothing to be ashamed of.
--> @ShilaHumans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.That is the biggest load of old bollocks I have ever heard. Humans are the most unsuited species for nature than any single species on earth. Humans will very rarely last one single night in his natural state in the wild.
--> @ShilaHumans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.That is the biggest load of old bollocks I have ever heard. Humans are the most unsuited species for nature than any single species on earth. Humans will very rarely last one single night in his natural state in the wild.Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population.
Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state.
Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year.
Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities.
--> @Shila--> @ShilaHumans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.That is the biggest load of old bollocks I have ever heard. Humans are the most unsuited species for nature than any single species on earth. Humans will very rarely last one single night in his natural state in the wild.Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population.So what!?Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state.So what!?Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year.So what!?Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities.So what!?
--> @Shila--> @ShilaHumans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.That is the biggest load of old bollocks I have ever heard. Humans are the most unsuited species for nature than any single species on earth. Humans will very rarely last one single night in his natural state in the wild.Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population.So what!?Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state.So what!?Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year.So what!?Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities.So what!?That is evidence “Humans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.”
--> @Shila--> @Shila--> @ShilaHumans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.That is the biggest load of old bollocks I have ever heard. Humans are the most unsuited species for nature than any single species on earth. Humans will very rarely last one single night in his natural state in the wild.Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population.So what!?Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state.So what!?Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year.So what!?Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities.So what!?That is evidence “Humans were better suited for survival and outpaced every other animal species.”Stop talking rubbish.You say: "Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state". Then they get out of the water, dry themselves off and dress themselves and maybe sit in front of a nice warm fire. The only animal thatneeds external fire /heat and cannot survive without it.You say: "Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population." This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year". Buy again- This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities." There is only a tiny fraction of the world's animals in captivity at the will of man. Animals do not need to build cities. The natural world is its natural home and habitat.Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?
You say: "Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state". Then they get out of the water, dry themselves off and dress themselves and maybe sit in front of a nice warm fire. The only animal that needs external fire /heat and cannot survive without it.You say: "Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population." This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year". But again- This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities." There is only a tiny fraction of the world's animals in captivity at the will of man. Animals do not need to build cities. The natural world is its natural home and habitat.Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?It’s call dominance.Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
--> @ShilaYou say: "Humans go skinny dipping at night in his natural state". Then they get out of the water, dry themselves off and dress themselves and maybe sit in front of a nice warm fire. The only animal that needs external fire /heat and cannot survive without it.You say: "Humans dominate planet earth nearing 8 billion in population." This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Humans don’t have mating seasons. They can mate anytime of the year". But again- This simply means they are prolific breeders and has nothing to do with surviving in the wild in their natural state.You say: "Animals live in zoos. Humans live in planned cities." There is only a tiny fraction of the world's animals in captivity at the will of man. Animals do not need to build cities. The natural world is its natural home and habitat.Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?It’s call dominance.Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”And Jesus said, "Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns". Yet man has been having to reap and sow and store all of its existence.
God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator. Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?
And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?
God did not give animals or birds control of their environment. They are totally dependent of nature. Bu5 humans have dominance over their environment.
God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator. Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?Shark hunting by humans is actually driving the sharks extinct. Shows humans are masters of the sea.
And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?God made Adam and Eve bare naked so he could ogle at their nakedness.
Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
-> @ShilaGod did not give animals or birds control of their environment. They are totally dependent of nature. Bu5 humans have dominance over their environment.Nope. Just one recent 21st century example; Two thirds of Pakistan was flooded just weeks ago; many people lost their lives and properties were totally destroyed and lost for ever. So, it is not just animals that have no control over their environment, we humans just like them, are at its mercy. Stop talking bullshite.
God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator. Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?Shark hunting by humans is actually driving the sharks extinct. Shows humans are masters of the sea.Stop it ffs. So, you can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you?
And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?God made Adam and Eve bare naked so he could ogle at their nakedness.So, are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?
Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.The verse 3:21 of Genesis says different.Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.But either way, according to the contradictory bible, it was either God or themselves that made artificial covering for these two earthlings. Which is not their natural state by any means.
-> @ShilaGod did not give animals or birds control of their environment. They are totally dependent of nature. Bu5 humans have dominance over their environment.Nope. Just one recent 21st century example; Two thirds of Pakistan was flooded just weeks ago; many people lost their lives and properties were totally destroyed and lost for ever. So, it is not just animals that have no control over their environment, we humans just like them, are at its mercy. Stop talking bullshite.God has sent great floods before. But here he saved the majority of Pakistanis unlike Noah’s flood where he destroyed the Jews.
God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator. Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?Shark hunting by humans is actually driving the sharks extinct. Shows humans are masters of the sea.Stop it ffs. So, you can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you?Scuba divers out manoeuvre sharks.
And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?God made Adam and Eve bare naked so he could ogle at their nakedness.So, are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?That is why God noticed their naked bodies and grew obsessive.
Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.The verse 3:21 of Genesis says different.Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.But either way, according to the contradictory bible, it was either God or themselves that made artificial covering for these two earthlings. Which is not their natural state by any means.After banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden they were no longer protected. God then tried to protect humans from the prying eyes of angels. Bu5 even here god was unsuccessful.
--> @Shila-> @ShilaGod did not give animals or birds control of their environment. They are totally dependent of nature. Bu5 humans have dominance over their environment.Nope. Just one recent 21st century example; Two thirds of Pakistan was flooded just weeks ago; many people lost their lives and properties were totally destroyed and lost for ever. So, it is not just animals that have no control over their environment, we humans just like them, are at its mercy. Stop talking bullshite.God has sent great floods before. But here he saved the majority of Pakistanis unlike Noah’s flood where he destroyed the Jews.No. The flood was another natural disaster that the superstitious of the time believed it was sent from god because the priests of the time told them so. And they were Hebrews, not Jews. But again, those that drown in the deluge were unable to survive under all that water. so much for your man having "domination of the seas".
God saying "have dominion over all the animals" simply makes us an apex predator. Tell me; how does a human in his natural state go about having dominion over a frenzy of great white sharks in their own domain? Or just one great white shark?Shark hunting by humans is actually driving the sharks extinct. Shows humans are masters of the sea.Stop it ffs. So, you can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you?Scuba divers out manoeuvre sharks.No, they can't. Stop being so fkn ridiculous. And I asked you "can stay under water without coming up for air longer than a whale or a dolphin, can you"?And that would be scuba divers using artificial breathing apparatus. You are terrible at answering without thinking, aren't you.
And you didn't answer my question>> Tell me, if we humans are so adapted to the NATURAL world, why is it we lost our natural fur coats only to have to hunt down and kill other animals for their coats?God made Adam and Eve bare naked so he could ogle at their nakedness.So, are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?That is why God noticed their naked bodies and grew obsessive.Try answering they question. Are you saying that humans didn't evolve from apes and that humans in their natural state have always been naked?
Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.The verse 3:21 of Genesis says different.Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.But either way, according to the contradictory bible, it was either God or themselves that made artificial covering for these two earthlings. Which is not their natural state by any means.After banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden they were no longer protected. God then tried to protect humans from the prying eyes of angels. But even here god was unsuccessful.So, then they were not in their natural state, were they, you clown.
