Masks

Author: sadolite

Posts

Total: 37
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
Data regarding the “real-world” effectiveness of community masking are limited to observational and epidemiological studies.
  • An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.32
  • In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
  • A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
  • A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35
  • Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.36,37
Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,38 a  German city,39 a U.S. state,40 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,41,42 as well as both Canada43 and the U.S.44 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies42,44 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.45 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.42
Conclusions
Experimental and epidemiological data support community masking to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2. The prevention benefit of masking is derived from the combination of source control and personal protection for the mask wearer. The relationship between source control and personal protection is likely complementary and possibly synergistic14, so that individual benefit increases with increasing community mask use. Further research is needed to expand the evidence base for the protective effect of cloth masks and in particular to identify the combinations of materials that maximize both their blocking and filtering effectiveness, as well as fit, comfort, durability, and consumer appeal. Adopting universal masking policies can help avert future lockdowns, especially if combined with other non-pharmaceutical interventions such as social distancing, hand hygiene, and adequate ventilation.

Bringerofrain
Bringerofrain's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 516
3
4
7
Bringerofrain's avatar
Bringerofrain
3
4
7
-->
@oromagi
Why would take out the medical benefits during an history-making pandemic?  Seems like medical benefits are the priority until the emergency passes.
How would we determine when it has passed would be the issue? Has it passed when politicians feel like the panic they create  is no longer useful to them like george bush used 9\11 for the same reasons. 

I agree with you that abuse children should be removed from their parents, but the fact is we are prioritizing elderly people who have a 1% chance of dying over protecting children. I don't know why the elderly are considered more valuable than abused kids, perhaps it is because they are at voting age.
Seriously ideal world no kid is abused plus schools return to normal, but the government can't watch parents 24\7 so that is impossible to prevent and we shouldn't abandon other steps at protecting kids. We need to balance public health with social and economic impacts, not completely disregard social and economic impacts in favor of public health. 

What is the exact numbers we need to start maybe getting back to normal so that way we are traumatizing and abusing kids less? 


Sorry to hear about your mother. I can see why this topic you would be emotional about. Do you know which republican infected her? 







Bringerofrain
Bringerofrain's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 516
3
4
7
Bringerofrain's avatar
Bringerofrain
3
4
7
What's everyone's thoughts of rapidly infecting everyone? It seems like it would prevent it from becoming a super bug. It is theorized that slow spread due to taking steps against spread can cause viruses to become super viruses. Anything to get this over with has got to be better than making poor people even more poor due to the economic effects and causing more of them to starve on top of the increased depression in people and abuse of kids. 
FLRW
FLRW's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,626
3
4
8
FLRW's avatar
FLRW
3
4
8
-->
@oromagi
When i was in Japan in the 1980's , i saw that everybody was wearing masks. Masks are now omnipresent in Japan as a result of the pandemic, thanks in part to an inherent mask-wearing culture. Besides being sporadically worn during hay fever and influenza seasons, masks have expanded beyond their traditional role over the years and have even been adopted by the fashion and beauty industries.
The Covid-19 deaths per 100,000 population in the USA is  153.62, in Japan it is 6.00.


sadolite
sadolite's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,174
3
2
4
sadolite's avatar
sadolite
3
2
4
-->
@MisterChris
 "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." 
sadolite
sadolite's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 3,174
3
2
4
sadolite's avatar
sadolite
3
2
4
-->
@MisterChris
If you did debate this whos sources would be acceptable? I don't believe a fucking word any govt agency says. Their position changes like I change my about whether to eat cereal for breakfast or not and their covid  policies are based on complete arbitrary BS that have no scientific standing or logic what so ever. It isn't even scientifically debatable. The only real science about the effectiveness of masks come from the mask manufacturers and none will say any masks they make not designed for filtering viruses do anything to stop a virus. Oh you can sit in a restaurant filled with people but cant sit in a church filled with people, Such complete arbitrary BS based on nothing. Covid is about believing what ever BS you want to believe.  Truth and fact are non existent. You will reject anything that doesn't fit your media/govt indoctrinated narrative about covid.
fauxlaw
fauxlaw's avatar
Debates: 77
Posts: 3,565
4
7
10
fauxlaw's avatar
fauxlaw
4
7
10
-->
@oromagi
thanks. Good research!