Who actually uses "Political Correctness"?

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Far from upset; it was a valuable investment, even monetarily. I use my OED daily, and, contrary to your opinion, as I've stated, official definitions have not changed. Sorry about yours.
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I mean... words do and have changed meanings before... scientifically speaking gender means something different from what you think it does. If you simply refuse to believe that, well... its exactly ad hoc, you don't really have a justification beyond, "Trust me, this book was written by people with degrees, and I think this one is right.." and then I go, "And this one was written by a bunch of people who specialize in the field of this word... so you know, your definition is kind of inept. 

Again, its like a mechanical engineer describing abortion instead of a medical doctor, of course you completely ignored that comparison before so I don't see you addressing it this time.
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Lol, look at the list of euphism I gave earlier on that site
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Here is the link again with the elaborated definition and examples. Seriously though it is a Thursday. Go ask your English teacher. https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-euphemism.html

Even though if you are able to mentally twist definitions that agree with me than perhaps even your teachers won't be able to help you. 

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Jesus christ. I understandd what is going on. You learn words by looking at a new word in the dictionary every day and not waiting until you have seen it used by educated people repeatedly before adopting it. It would explain why you are looking for excuses to use words like colloquially where it doesn't belong as well. 
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Dude... here's the thing, I have given you the dictionary definition of a word. I have not twisted it or anything, I copy and pasted the definition from the dictionary site. I am using it in precisely the same way I have ever heard anybody use it. I have argued against your points, each and everyone one of them, and here is what you respond with? "No, you're wrong, go ask your teacher?" 

How about, instead of being an arrogant jerk about this, you just argue back? If you can't find a valid objection, I don't think you're quite mature enough to have access here. This isn't a youtube comment section
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Here read through this and you will have a better understanding of the word. https://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-euphemism.html

If you insist on humiliating yourself than challenge me to a debate on how to use the word. 

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Political correctness is the result of living in a society where other people have been marginalized individually or as a group for their perceived inferiorities.

Fat people for example are often made fun of and treated less favorably because of their weight, which is why they get offended when you speak of their weight in a certain manner. For them such speech validates that which has caused them much pain.

Political correctness simply says that we should all speak in a way that takes other people into account as to minimize such disrespect. Naturally, this is why the anti political correctness movement consists of a largely white male population who as a group has little to complain about, and consists mostly of assholes who don't have any ability to empathize with the plight of others.
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Way to generalize fat people. Us fats are not that sensitive. It is just a small group of us on twitter that make people think so. I don't feel oppressed even when my friends make fat jokes. The only people that really oppress me are food manufacturers who cater to my addictions with really delicious pizza rolls. 
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Or... you know, I can just use the dictionary.... which is what defines words. Considering your refusal to actually engage in argument here I don't see a need to "challenge" you to anything.
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I didn't think you would want to debate that :)
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I mean.. keep on thinking you're right here, I've yet to see you "debunk the dictionary" so... 
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Which dictionary contains more English words than any other?
Which dictionary offers more word etymology than any other?
Which offers greater contextual syntax than any other?
Which offers more examples of historic use of words than any other?

The answer to each question points to one dictionary. I have offered it’s name before. Don’t bother throwing another at us. They’re a bit like our current President. Inadequate for the task.
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Which dictionary has a figurative army of specialists in the field?
Which dictionary is specialized for a particular subject?
Which dictionary is up to date in terms of modern science?
Which dictionary has supplementary studies supporting their definitions?

These all have a clear answer, and its not the OED.
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Says who?
Show me the better dictionary
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American Psychologist Association's Dictionary, I've already shown you. Your incredulity reveals your bias here


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Well, it was bound to happen. The House is proposing a bill, HB-484 [sponsored by Rep Andre Carson [D-IN] to prohibit all twice-impeached Presidents from burial in Arlington. But the House does not hate Donald Trump, do they? Actually, they do, the name of the bill? "No Glory for Hate Act."

Just one problem because Mr. Carson doesn't bother to read and comprehend the Constitution: Article I, Sec. 9, to wit, "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."
Ex post facto is the key:  A law that makes illegal an act that was legal when committed, increases the penalties for an infraction after it has been committed, or changes the rules of evidence to make conviction easier.

Oops. 
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And I've already told you that their claimed authority to change word definition, particularly words that have existed as is for 800 years, is usurpation of definition. Let them create a new word for what they describe. I've told you that, too. Who is biased?
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The one arguing against the literal field of experts about this matter? I would say that that person is biased, you are biased towards the OED, its a pretty simply thing that you have the intelligence to comprehend.
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Since when does psychology dictate word syntax and meaning when science is supposed to create new words to define what they mean for newly-developed conditions of biology, and not usurp old words as an agenda-driven theory. Bias? Not by the language as used for hundreds of years. I'm intelligent enough to understand that.
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You do realize that psychology is a sort of science right? You do realize that psychologists are also scientists? Right? Its you with the clear bias here.
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When you look up the prime meaning of gender, MW redirects back to sex.
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Wow... Greyparrot lying, I thought I'd never see the day 
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When you look up the prime meaning of gender, MW redirects back to sex.
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Wow... Greyparrot lying, I thought I'd never see the day 

Wow 1a definition ...do you need a screenshot with a balloon for the disabled?
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No it doesn't... it says, and I quote: " the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex" as the second definition, but again, I really don't see any authority in the OED or the MW for what sex or gender means, what about the people who actually study sex and gender, hm?

"the condition of being male, female, or neuter. In a human context, the distinction between gender and sex reflects the usage of these terms: Sex usually refers to the biological aspects of maleness or femaleness, whereas gender implies the psychological, behavioral, social, and cultural aspects of being male or female (i.e., masculinity or femininity)."


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2a: SEX sense 1a
the feminine gender

You're also fucking retard casually tossing around the word lying as if you can discern intent over the internet. What a troll.

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"1a: a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms"

Do you mean the subclass talking about how the word is used in language? ON top of lying can you not comprehend basic sentence structure? 

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Well first off the word ret*rd has been used to subjugate several disabled people to oppression, so I'd rather "fucking moron" or  "most stupid idiotic fuckbag I've ever seen" you know, one of those

Second off, just as detectives do with murder cases, you can use these two awe-inspiring tactics called deduction and induction, where you look at what is most likely the case. Somebody who has dishonestly framed things in the past, can read, and likes to troll around? Yup, so I either assume your lying, unable to read, or so lazy you didn't read... I'm sorry I called you a liar over being a lazed crazed republican.